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  • bowke28bowke28 Member Posts: 2,185
    nothing wrong with a 175 HP car...5 more HP than a taurus SE v6. its not an rx-8, nor is it a camry.
  • chrisbgoodchrisbgood Member Posts: 77
    OK -- honest opinion needed.

    I have a 2003 Mini Cooper, 5 speed, Indi Blue (top is body color), premium package, cold weather package and sport package. (options in those packages include -- automatic climate control, Dynamic stability control, panoramic sunroof, spoiler, heated seats, heated mirrors, fog lights, sport seats). Seats are default pleather.

    Current milege 20,500.
    Location: upstate (Albany) NY area

    Condition:
    tires at 50 - 60%
    body has one small scratch (may be buffable -- about 1 inch long on passengers side) and one small ding (very small as well -- smaller than a pencil eraser around) on the passenger side door
    Interior is in excellant condition

    What's going to be my trade in value?

    Or more importantly what should I shoot for as the difference on a new BMW 325i with premium package, leather seats, autostick and nav (list=34500 or so)?

    Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,574
    On the BMW, there is a $1200 dealer cash incentive.. Your target price should be around $3000-$3500 under MSRP. But, as Terry says, the only difference is the difference.. He'll be able to give you a trade-in value.

    regards,
    kyfdx

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  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    I have a 2003 Mini Cooper, 5 speed, Indi Blue (top is body color), premium package, cold weather package and sport package. (options in those packages include -- automatic climate control, Dynamic stability control, panoramic sunroof, spoiler, heated seats, heated mirrors, fog lights, sport seats). Seats are default Pleather.
    Current mileage 20,500.

           ==================================

             So were movin' on up huh.? .. 03 Mini, we have the roof, 20k, cold package, handshaker, sport pack and the rubber is ho-hum .. ya know the deal, no uh oh it's Maaco, trade side, in and around the high $17's, low/mid $18's depending on the dealer ... the 04 325 should be bought for "around" invoice, then minus the Mini .......

                      Let me know .....!

                              Terry.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ....... Believe it or not, dealers are paying the mid/tall $11's, low $12's for 01 90/100k IS300's -if- they're clean .............

                                  Terry.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    AWD
    Black w/tan guts
    New Bridgestones
    Slider, Leather
    glove box CD changer
    No gold package or roof rack.
    Smoker.. interior in good shape, but looks lived in... lets assume its been detailed.
    50K miles
    Exterior in great shape.. no accidents or paint work.
    resides in Lexington, KY
    Need a trade-in value for my uncle who is looking at new Highlanders.

                    =============================

                 Sounds like it could be a nice one .. right color combo for the area, 4wd, new rubber, low low miles, no rack, interior has the "Hollywood hillbilly" look and no meteorite hits ... trade side, in and around the $14ish range, depending on the dealer low/mid $14's, if you can get the raccoon smell out you "might" get a dealer to mosey on up to the tall $14's .....

                             Terry.
  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,280
    The Altima is about identical to an Accord 4-cyl. in sportiness, although the interior in the 2005 model is still not as good as the new Accord. What flat killed any excitement I might have felt for my Altima is the overboosted power steering, which has all the feel of a Park Avenue. Is the 3.5 Altima or the Maxima the same way, or tuned for a sportier feel? I've never driven either.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ........ Is she ok ...? .. airbags deployed.?

                  Base 04 Leon SE, 16k, wonderful and exciting "blue", auto, crankers, dead doors and $5,200 of Wham.! ... Absolutely, I would be all over them like a cheap suit .. it's gotta have frame damage, if not (almost impossible) it's going to be worth in and around the $4ish range come trade side the day it comes out of the body shop .. tell them to replace it, ones like yours can be bought all day long for the $7,5ish range .. remember, body shops Wants the biz, they can fix Anything, just ask them ............

                      No-way Jose .. get some pictures, get a pro to look at it on a lift .. what happens is, body shops will get into a "tear down" On purpose, and will convince the insurance company they have already ordered parts (which can be returned) ins guy "thinks" oh, they have already $2,500 invested, etc, etc .... Detroit Salvage would "probably" "might" put $1,500 in it on a salvage, insurance pays you "lets say" $8,0, they get back $1,500ish, $6,500 spent ...... it's a friggin' Leon, not a Lexus .. stand your ground.!

                                  Terry.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    The 64th Annual Sturgis Motorcycle Rally runs from August 9 - 15, 2004 and is jam packed with Events, Concerts, Racing & Riding!
      
    Sturgis Venue Information Scenic Trips in and around the Black Hills
  • steine13steine13 Member Posts: 2,825
    So what are you, another fat guy with a bank account on a Harley???
    What is this world coming to...
    -mathias

    EDIT: Sorry man, I went through Sturgis on "THE" weekend in 1997; I don't think I ever quite recovered. Good Lord...
  • chrisbgoodchrisbgood Member Posts: 77
    I'll let you know how it goes. The Mini has depreciated very little based on trade in value -- I"m impressed (love the little car, but 4 doors appeals to me).
  • automan227automan227 Member Posts: 118
    Saw some of the new '05 Excursions, and they look pretty cool. Seeing as how this may be the last year for them, I was thinking of upgrading...just thinking right now...probably won't happen.

    BUT

    Just out of curiosity, where do I stand on my current rig for trade-in and private sale?

    2002 Excursion Limited Ultimate
    Black
    7.3L Powerstroke Diesel
    37,700 miles
    Leather
    Factory Wood Inserts
    Limited Premiere Package (makes the outside mono-color Black and gives the leather seats a two-tone color)
    Homelink
    Trailer-Tow Mirrors
    Reverse Sensing System
    Heated Front Seats
    6-Disc In-Dash CD Changer
    Rear Air

    Interior is in near perfect condition with the front drivers seat leather showing some wear (not dirty, just like its been sat in day-in and day-out)

    The exterior is also in great shape with a couple minor scratches and a small ding on the front hood. 4 months after I got the truck we were in a minor accident where another Superduty Truck going in the opposite direction ripped off our trailer-tow mirror with his TT mirror. No body damage, but the mirror had to be replaced.

    What do you say oh great one?

    AS
  • steine13steine13 Member Posts: 2,825
    What, '01 90k IS300's for $12k at the auction???
    Yikes.
    Funny thing is, they don't sell all that well new. Goes to show what a reputation is worth...
    Compare that to an '01 Audi A6 with the same miles... ouch.

    BTW, Thanks for all the suggestions. So far, I think the Volvo has promise. MAYBE the Maxima, but they're very thin on the ground around here. I'm thinking the Solara and Accord coupe merit a look, value-wise, and they're just a little "different".

    Thanks,
    -Mathias
  • mrwhipple311mrwhipple311 Member Posts: 56
    She is fine, the airbags didn't go off. When I looked over the car I didn't think it could be right again. The radiator support is as straight as George Michael and it took hits to the front and back. I really don't want it back.

    Terry, thanks for your help and I will let you know what transpires.
  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,280
    I think someone here recently had a VW Passat with a slight compression problem. Bet you could get that for a song!
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ... ** The radiator support is as straight as George Michael ** ...l..o..l.....

                           

                               Terry.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ... ** So what are you, another fat guy with a bank account on a Harley??? **

              ... as a matter of fact, yeah ..! .. actually it's a Yamaha Road Star Silverado, and I'm borrowing the money from the paperboy ..

                  Were you really there in 97 .? .. we went there last year on the way to Alaska and only had a chance to spend a day there .. fascinating, it's a l-i-t-t-l-e different than Daytona bike week .l.o.l...

                                Terry.
  • lancerfixerlancerfixer Member Posts: 1,284
    ...I was stationed at Ellsworth AFB, so I had the opportunity to go be a spectator a few times. Now there's an unforgettable experience.

    You can tell when it's Sturgis time, no matter where in the country you are...just look for either large groups of Harleys loaded down with sleeping bags, etc, or pristine pickups pulling very impressive trailers.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
        ....... Bikes have been blowing out of here since Sunday, 5 here, 3 there, 10 over there ...

                    Your right, 10 year old vans pulling 10 year old bikes, Mom's and Dad's loaded up the Gran-Dad and all their gear, riding .. then of course you have the Yukons and the Ford Supercrew HD's pulling the Fat daddy customs on their Fat daddy rigs, lets not forget the Prevosts homes towing anything and everything ............... :) .. gas prices.? .... Pshaw.!

                  Only in America, you gotta love it .....!

                            Terry.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    2002 Excursion Limited Ultimate
    Black
    7.3L Powerstroke Diesel
    37,700 miles
    Leather
    Factory Wood Inserts
    Limited Premiere Package (makes the outside mono-color Black and gives the leather seats a two-tone color)
    Homelink
    Trailer-Tow Mirrors
    Reverse Sensing System
    Heated Front Seats
    6-Disc In-Dash CD Changer
    Rear Air
    Interior is in near perfect condition with the front drivers seat leather showing some wear (not dirty, just like its been sat in day-in and day-out)
    The exterior is also in great shape with a couple minor scratches and a small ding on the front hood. 4 months after I got the truck we were in a minor accident where another Superduty Truck going in the opposite direction ripped off our trailer-tow mirror with his TT mirror. No body damage, but the mirror had to be replaced.
    What do you say oh great one?

                   ============================

                 I'll answer this one until the great one staggers back .. good description, all except for that 2WD/4WD thing ... remind me to kill you later .. I'm "assuming" it's 2WD ..... uggghhh.

                    Miles are low for the year, Quads.?, mirror loss-no biggie if it was fixed right, we have the too many carbs drivers seat, the Big package, Dsl, back-up beep beep, bun warmers, tow pack, hot and cold running breeze, big tunes and you say it's pretty nice ... if the rubber is deep, service from yesterday, no repaints .. trade side - depending on where you live, in and around the $24/$25ish range, this ain't no punk, they do get money for those 7.3's .... down Retail Rd, $29,5 *asking* and wave goodbye at the first $28/$29,0 .......

                     Good luck and let me know ..

                                  Terry.
  • automan227automan227 Member Posts: 118
    Doh! I'll go to my room now...

    It is a 4WD with tires that are about a month old because they were replaced under a Ford-Firestone recall. No quad seating, because we thought we might need that extra seat and it turns out it was a good choice.

    It also has the Limited Slip thing going on if that makes much difference.

    Thanks again.

    AS
  • bowke28bowke28 Member Posts: 2,185
    ive sold hondas AND nissans, and i can tell you...even if you dont like the interior still, the altimas steering is FAR more crisp. and with 15 extra ponies, its ALOT quicker.

    dont get me wrong, i love the accord...still plan on getting one in the next year or 2...but for the 4-cyl models, the altima is a better car, all-around.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    .... ** Doh! I'll go to my room now... **

              And don't come out until I say so ~ No soup for You ...!!

                  Oh great, now it's a 4x4 with new sneaks .. the good news is it's worth in and around the $27/$28ish zipcode, depending on where you live - or is that another state secret.? ... down Retail Rd, $32,900 *asking* and blow it out for $31,5/$32,5 .......

                                         Terry.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,574
    AWD
    Black w/tan guts
    New Bridgestones
    Slider, Leather
    glove box CD changer
    No gold package or roof rack.
    Smoker.. interior in good shape, but looks lived in... lets assume its been detailed.
    50K miles
    Exterior in great shape.. no accidents or paint work.
    resides in Lexington, KY
    Need a trade-in value for my uncle who is looking at new Highlanders.

                    =============================

                 Sounds like it could be a nice one .. right color combo for the area, 4wd, new rubber, low low miles, no rack, interior has the "Hollywood hillbilly" look and no meteorite hits ... trade side, in and around the $14ish range, depending on the dealer low/mid $14's, if you can get the raccoon smell out you "might" get a dealer to mosey on up to the tall $14's .....

                             Terry.
    ============================================
    He traded it on an '04 Highlander Limited 4X4 last night...
    MSRP: $35,867
    Invoice around $31,800 minus $750 rebate.
    Paid: The trade plus $15,050. The only addition to that is sales tax.

    So, I figure at "dealer cost" of $31,050 (I know, who knows?), then they stepped up at $16K for his trade... Probably some dealer incentives we don't know about, but it looks like he got a pretty good deal with a little coaching from me and some good advice from you. This was at the second dealer in town, as the first one wouldn't hit his number.

    Terry: thanks again for all the help... Put me on the beer list, cause I owe you another one.

    regards,
    kyfdx

    P.S.: Don't them boys up in Sturgis look down their nose at those Yamahas a little bit?

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  • automan227automan227 Member Posts: 118
    I had it in for routine maintence today, and the dealer offered $28,5 to buy it off of me (of course if I got another truck through them) because he wants the exact truck I have and has been unable to find it. You are right on the money as usual.

    Still thinking about it though, because the new ones are significantly more expensive then this one was when I got it (to the tune of $3k or so more)

    Will let you know what I decide.

    AS

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  • jkwtradejkwtrade Member Posts: 18
    Could I please get some guidance. I would like to trade-in my 2000 Lincoln LS V8 Sport Package. Black exterior with tan leather in Milwaukee WI, 53202.

    It does NOT have a moon roof. It does have a factory CD changer, Alpine system, heated seats, and sport suspension.

    The exterior does not have any dents or dings. However, the hood does have several small chips from road debris. The paint is still glossy, no fading.

    The interior is absolutely perfect, no wearing or scratching of the leather.

    The car has 89,000 miles. It has never been in a wreck or required any repairs. As far as I know, it does not have any mechanical problems.

    I imagine the dealer would want to replace the tires prior to sale. It has an unused 17" Firehawk spare tire. The windshield has a small crack that would require replacing.

    Could I please get a rough estimate on the trade-value, if I do not replace the tires or windshield?

    Thanks,

    Jason
  • beedublubeedublu Member Posts: 236
    Hi Terry:

    Here's my situation: Shopping for an 04 Accord or Camry sedan and pondering what to do with my 95 T-Bird LX

    Details:

    -73000 one-owner miles
    -Clean exterior except for a few minor stone chips
    -Aquatred 3 tires with about 38000 miles
    -3.8L V-6
    -Factory AM/FM/cassette
    -Runs good, no head gasket or tranny issues
    -Non-smoker owner, interior nearly spotless
    -Location: Let's say somewhere downwind of the Great Lakes in upstate NY
    -Dark red exterior/gray cloth interior
    -No accidents

    I know from past experience that it's tough to get rid of a rear-drive car like this with winter approaching. What do you think my prospects are if I trade? Grim? I know, I should sell it myself but I don't know if I can put up with all the weirdos coming out to the house etc.

    Thanks for any enlightenment.
  • driftracerdriftracer Member Posts: 2,448
    read my post #20851, the realize that there's no retail use for a 10 year old car, even if it's nice - sounds like a perfect candidate for private sale, though.

    Detail it up nice, take out a nice ad - you have a good start with your description - use that for your ad - maybe $5,995 obo?

    It's a real money (retail) $3500-4000 car, but don't be offended at getting offered $1500-2000 on trade, because it's going right to the wholesaler.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
        .......... Drift pretty much covered it all .. a dealer won't have a home for a vehicle like this, so it's the auction or a wholesaler, you might see the $1,000/$1,500 range if it's really clean, no rust, cold breeze, looks super, etc yatti yatti yatti .... depending on your weather up north, you have about a 4/6 week opportunity to take it down Retail Rd and sell it, figure $3,900 *asking* and grab the first $2,9/$3,5 - it's your choice ... Weirdo's.? just pretend your at Sturgis .l.o.l..

                                Terry.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ....... I dunno if $16,0 was the "real" figure, but it wouldn't surprise me .... these things get silly money anyway, so based on the barometric pressure, sea level change, the alignment with Saturn, the lunar tides and being at the right place at the right time, I think he did *Really Good* based on the difference ........... ;)

      
           **P.S.: Don't them boys up in Sturgis look down their nose at those Yamahas a little bit?**

              .l.o.l.. there will be tons of everything from Bimmers to Victorys there, actually I have 2 HD's, but this will be 500 mile run (long for me) and I want my comfort ......... ;)

                              Terry.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ....... Mornin' Jason .....

                Good description, thanks ... from the home of Laverne and Shirley we have a 00 LS V8 with 90k (ouch.!) black with tan guts, combo is good for the area, no slider (it's 00, so cd is in the glove.? changed in April production) and we have the bun warmers ....

                What can I say, we need new sneakers and the looker is cracked, we have bunches of miles and no slider .. if the serivice is 100%, no paint by numbers .. then trade side, in and around the mid/tall $8's, "maybe" might get lucky and get a dealer to go over the top and drop the low low low low low $9's in it, maybe - this poor thing needs some stuff ........... ;)

                              Terry.
  • jkwtradejkwtrade Member Posts: 18
    Thanks for the quick reply. Yes, CD is in the glove. I'll let you know how it goes.

    Regards,

    Jason
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,574
    "....... I dunno if $16,0 was the "real" figure, but it wouldn't surprise me"

    Yeah.. with a trade, you never know the "real" figure... My uncle has one thing going for him, though... He makes every deal on the "difference". Of course, he likes round numbers as well... That $15,050 difference was plus tax and registration....

    "Exactly $17K and not a penny more"
    He writes a check for that, and he's gone... No chance of funny addition that way.

    Thanks again for the help.. you are the best!!

    regards,
    kyfdx

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  • tdomatdoma Member Posts: 48
    I have come across a private sale 96 Tacoma SR5 with 82.5K miles. Cold AC, bedliner, new tires 4x2, good body. It's in Metro ATL. The seller says the truck has been re-painted on the left side.
    What is wholesale and retail on this one?
  • akanglakangl Member Posts: 3,282
    How in the H-E-Double hocky sticks do I figure the value on this thing??

    2002 Fleetwood Coleman Laredo 10' popup camper, has a furnace, spare tire, but no water heater, 2 burner stove, fridge, stuff like that. Its clean and seems in good shape.

    Dealer says they paid $5k for it (my BS flag was flying) and are asking $5800. Best I can tell retail is $5660, I'm thinking $4k/$4.5k. The lady tried to tell me that they could sell it for $7500 all day long in the spring, but since its end of season they will let it go for a *steal* at $5800. They have had it about 2 weeks I think, took it in on trade.

    BTW, there are NO other used popups for sale right now unless you count the 80's models in the $600/$1k range (not what we want). Thankfully we don't NEED something right now, just looking for a deal so we can get this over with and have something for next summer.

    If we don't find something this fall we will drive out in the spring and buy something where people are SANE on prices.
  • beedublubeedublu Member Posts: 236
    Thanks, guys...you both pretty much told me what I was expecting to hear.

    Given that it's rust-free and everything (including AC) works pretty well, I might just buy the new car clean deal and try my best on a private sale. (Yeah, how weird can the prospective buyers be?) :-)

    BW
  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,280
    Don't know, but if you're not going to use it this season, get them to winterize it before you take it.
  • akanglakangl Member Posts: 3,282
    If we get it (or one) in the next couple weeks we'll use it a few times. My dad can winterize it, he knows how.
  • anonymouspostsanonymousposts Member Posts: 3,802
    Not to start an Altima vs. Accord debate in here but even though the Altima has more power on paper it doesn't translate to a "real-word" performance advantage. The Accord has been dyno'd several times and it is suspected that the HP is a little understated by Honda.

    Additionally, the Altima's interior may be improved but it's still no Accord. One deal killer for me with the Altima is the shoddy-looking installation of the XM radio antenna.
  • driftracerdriftracer Member Posts: 2,448
    Terry's thinking the way I would if I was riding to Sturgis - I'd rather endure a few jeers and sneers about riding an import bike, than ride a Harley and have to have my wife drive the support van with my local Harley tech and all his tools...
  • zodiac2004zodiac2004 Member Posts: 458
    Not to mention a masseuse and earplugs.

    I like my way of thinking the best - which is "don't go anywhere near Sturgis". LOL

    But I was never a "biker" anyway. I put 75K miles on 3 bikes in California over 5 years COMMUTING TO WORK.
  • iianointediianointed Member Posts: 5
    Hi. I am wanting to trade in an '03 Silver Camry with about 37k miles for a loaded Nissan Maxima. There's a slight scratch on the passenger side but other than that, no dents or chips or other problems. I know the Camry has a decent resale value but wasn't sure if I would get a good trade in value. What can I expect from the Nissan dealership?
  • anonymouspostsanonymousposts Member Posts: 3,802
    You need to give Terry the trim line/transmission/options for him to give you a value. He also needs to know where the vehicle is located.

    Example:

    2003 Toyota Camry LE/SE/XLE
    4 cylinder automatic
    Silver exterior/gray interior
    Options: Alloy wheels, sunroof, power seat, leather, CD
    Exterior: Light scratch on bumper, etc
    Interior:
  • butchbr73butchbr73 Member Posts: 325
    .... would be nice to know what model camry, options, where it lives, etc..
  • zodiac2004zodiac2004 Member Posts: 458
    '03 Silver Camry with about 37k miles

    And on behalf of Terry, let me say "yeeeooooww"
  • driftracerdriftracer Member Posts: 2,448
    my '03 has 51k...
  • lancerfixerlancerfixer Member Posts: 1,284
    I went to Sturgis a couple times (as a spectator...I happened to live there at the time) and while they did have a nightly Crotch Rocket Hammer beating ($1 a swing, I think) and import bikes were looked down upon, in general, I noticed that Honda Gold Wings seemed to get a pass; I'm not sure why. In fact, after Harleys, I'd say the Gold Wing was the second most common bike there (this was in the mid-late 90s.)
  • steine13steine13 Member Posts: 2,825
    2000 Jeep Cherokee Classic Sport 4x4
    black over gray cloth
    52k 6cyl 4sp automatic
    usual pwr stuff, cruise, ac, no roof
    located in Kazachstan :-)

    Buddy of mine is looking at it from a local Chevy dealer. Asking $11,5 and willing to write up at $10,500.

    Strikes me as about $1k too much, even retail, but try and find one of these with low miles...

    -Mathias
  • zodiac2004zodiac2004 Member Posts: 458
    Again to quote Terry, you need a better dating service.
  • iianointediianointed Member Posts: 5
    Right. Sorry about that. I'm in Huntsville,AL and details are:
     
    2003 Camry LE
    4 cylinder automatic
    Silver with grey cloth interior
    Options: Power seats and CD player
    Exterior: light scratch on left passenger door
    37k miles

    Also, it has keyless entry and trunk remote and alarm system
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