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The valve cover has a plastic lid that has been off (why???) and is held on with 3 of four bolts ..?? it rattles when you drive.
which appears to be pretty straight from the auction, with a GMAC sticker still in the windshield. He told our post-doc that he's a car dealer, >>>but he's got private plates on the car...
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got the Vin# .................?
Terry.
NO!
Like a yahoo, I didn't copy it down. I asked the guy where he got it, and he said the Flint auction.... so I thought I might be able to track it with the help of a local friend... no luck.
Stupid I know.
-Mathias
$6,0 seems awful cheap for a 02 (even a base) with 36k ... I'm paying more than that for 01 LSI's ..
02,CHEVROLET,PRIZM,4D SEDAN:
06/23/2005 DET METR $ 5,700 47,540 BLACK 4G A X MW
06/07/2005 DETROIT $ 6,500 25,116 CHAMP 4G A X MW
06/16/2005 DETROIT $ 7,100 22,824 TEAL 4G A X MW
----- >> 06/21/2005 DETROIT $ 6,600 35,945 WHITE 4G A X MW ...????
06/28/2005 DETROIT $ 5,400 53,279 BLUE 4G A X MW
06/21/2005 DETROIT $ 4,700 37,384 CHAMP 4G A X MW
.... sniff .. snif sniff .. I think you got the right word going on - hinky ..
Terry.
MY HONDA HAS NEVER BEEN IN AN ACCIDENT AND MOST OF THE 73,000 MILES ARE HIGHWAY MILES. SHOULD I TRY TO SELL IT MYSELF, WHICH IS AVERAGING $8000 ONLINE OR JUST TRY SOME OTHER DEALERS?
Do you have the $11,000 to get the title in hand?
If not you are going to have a much harder time selling it.
The short answer is YES. A LOT.
The long answer depends on who your insurance company is, who hit you, their insurance, the body shop that fixes the damage, whether the tech that does the repair was sober...
Basically, nobody really wants your Voyager any more. You will be able to entice people into a deal they really don't want by lowering your selling price. They will assume the worst, and you'll have to prove otherwise. If you succeed, they'll deduct for having to explain the story to the next guy or gal. This is called "diminished value". Depending on the vehicle, DV is between 10 and 30% of market. (Ok, a 1992 Taurus with 175,000 miles loses nothing while an SL600 might well drop 50% after fighting with the lamp-post leaving the lot.)
As with separating your trade-in from the new car cost, you should recognize that you now have a trade-in (damaged) and three insurance and/or liability (tort) claims (The other two drivers & your insurance company) They are completely independent concepts - your possession and/or repair of the vehicle should* not affect your recovery. Your recovery will most certainly not affect what you can get for the vehicle.
* The _only_ time an insurance company would have a say in this is if you decided to file a claim with your insurer on a collision or comprehensive basis. Then, the terms of your contract dictate the rules of engagement. Otherwise it's a liability/tort claim and their role is to write a check for your loss.
On a personal note, if you're really within days of pulling the trigger on trading and you can afford to do the deal on the lowered value, I would do so**. If you can't get a full recovery of the difference this will cost a few bucks in the end, but you never have to argue with adjusters, body shops, worry about the quality of the repair... You will resolve the situation, get you a new-to-you car, free yourself up to get on with life, and establish a loss basis upon which to claim and/or sue. Plus, you won't be sitting around months later significantly out of pocket trying to find time to sue 10 different defendants and posting insurance diatribes on Edmunds. Not that I would know or anything.
** Confirm this with someone who knows what they're talking about first. Seriously.
You may find http://www.ican2000.com/dvfaqs.html useful, and you should definitely check out Questions About Auto Insurance & Accidents (next door at unbelievable, "Questions About Auto Insurance & Accidents" #717, 7 Mar 2005 1:48 pm ) A word of caution - some of the DV "consultants" out there feel pretty... slippery.
-Greg
This may hinge on whether you have a first-party claim (against your own policy) or a third-party claim (against the other party's policy). In my jurisdiction, the outlook is not good if it's a first-party claim. You should talk to someone experienced in insurance law if you wish to dump the van as-is, before repairs.
ol' wise one of the green course...someone ask me the other day if golf was a real sport...they see no sport in hitting a little round white thing...walking...finding it...and then hitting it again...they say it is a repetitive pattern...go figure...
anywooo (where have I seen that word before?), on the Benz, I looked in my small change pocket...nothing...look in my wallet, all it said was "Help Me"...
Bottom Line...I'm so poor, I can't even pay attention...(pause for the ha..ha..)
Thanks for the info...may the golf god's smile upon you!
Hope you had a great 4th. I spent it on Cape Cod. Now there's a target rich golf environment. You should check it out sometime.
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Terry, I need some help guesstimating my daughters cars value. It's a 97 Pontiac Grand Am 2-dr SE Coupe, 60K, Black w/gray cloth, V6, Auto, CD, pop-up moon roof thingie, PW/PDL, rear spoiler, cruise, cold AC, that's about it for extras. Condition is average, there is some minor damage to front driver side corner from a fender bender accident, the paint is fair overall, tires need replacing, interior would be excellent if it weren't for a couple of burn spots from a previous owner, engine/tranny runs strong but the charge light comes on occasionally without notice, everything else works, it's located in MA..
OK, by now you get the picture. It'll get you to Jimmy's Harborside... but it's not usually parked out front by the valet. I figure/hope it might be worth more than a really good set of golf clubs and a weekend at the Boston TPC.
It seems the miles and the drivetrain are the best things it has going for it. Overall curb appeal is probably only fair-to-middle'n though. But, what sayeth the great automotive sage?
Thanks.
I was sent here from the "Mitsubishi Galant" forum by Pat - sounds like you're quite the expert around here! I would really appreciate it if you could give me an idea of what I should look for in trading in my car. Here's my info:
2001 Galant GTZ (fully loaded)
Dover White Pearl/Gray leather interior
52,400 miles
with 4 brand new tires - B F Goodrich Traction TA
Options added:
6 disc in-dash CD player
Wind deflector for sunroof
Wheel locks
Pinstripe
This car is in great condition and has been well maintained (although I'm not sure I can locate ALL the records). It runs great, handles very well and I've had no mechanical problems with it. However, I was involved in an accident when it was only 3 months old - hit from behind and into a car in front. The damage was repaired and there are no signs in the operation of the car that any damage was done (really! I've had cars before that never ran the same after an accident).
Thanks for any input/advice! Have a great day,
Buzz A
Location: Central Virginia
Year/Make/Model: 2000 Dodge Stratus SE
Body Style: 4dr
Engine: 2.4L I4 DOHC 16V FI Engine
Driveline: FWD
Mileage: ~60,000
Color: Metallic Taupe Exterior/Dark Grey Interior
Major Options: Auto, Cruise, Power Locks, Power Seat
Condition:
Exterior has a small ding or two (guess would be a shopping cart) but I expect they could be removed. Paint looks good, but the hood had to be re painted after I noticed some peeling. All in all, the outside is in very good condition.
Interior is in excellent shape. No scratches on console, no tears in fabric and has been kept relatively clean. Non-smoker and no weird smells.
Tires -
Front tires replaced ~12,000 miles ago and showing some wear
Rear tires replaced ~6,000 miles ago
Brakes -
Front brakes and rotors replaced recently
Maintenance -
Oil changes between 2500-3000 miles but didn't keep receipts or records. Receipts kept for all other work (rotors, tires, etc)
Other: No claims, but did have the hood repainted after I noticed some peeling.
Appreciate any information! Thanks.
1998 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS
4 cycl, auto, fwd
80,000 miles
Minden Pearl Silver
Options: Power Package (cruise control, mirrors, windows, door locks), Sun Roof, AM/FM/Cassette
good condition (paint is good, interior is good, car is clean)
4 new tires (@5000 miles, Michelin MXV4s)
brakes replaced at 60,000 miles
all maintenance performed on schedule, all receipts in a file folder
- 1 repair, water pump leak @35,000mi, covered by warranty
blemishes
- hairline crack in the rear tail light
- foam that seals the tailgate starting to crack and peal from age
Located in St. Louis, Missouri (always garaged, 1 owner)
KBB suggests the trade in value is about 4600 and the private party sale is about 5900. I'd like to get 4000. Think that's possible?
Thanks
Neil
Since reposting is a good thing . . . he goes. . .
Corvette. . .you are correct . . .you don't see too many of these anymore.
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A friend is interested in buying this from an independant store.
Located in Central MA
1995
Honda Del Sol SI 2dr coupe/targa
1.6 4 cylinder MANUAL 5 speed
136 K Miles
FWD
Black with gray cloth
alloy wheels, ac,
Haven't yet seen it but was wondering if there is no paint by numbers or Taliban interior and all maitenance is up to date what is a good price for both.
He is asking 4995
It says online the VIN is
JHMEH6162SS007736
Thanks for the help
I assume you mean the tires were replaced 5,000 miles ago, not that they were replaced at 5,000 odometer miles, which would mean that you could see the air in them by now....
If the blemishes are noticeable, you might consider finding a replacement taillight from a junkyard car and installing it yourself. I wouldn't bother with the weather stripping unless it was really bad.
*The Del Sol's ..........? Nutso prices and it's a fantasy market ... they're like boat owners, same thing: says the price is based on what she's seen them going for .. My question is always: "where, in Morocco ?" .. boat owners say the same stupid stuff, they have an offer - but they never sell ..
The funny part is, there has to be 5/6 Del Sols for sale in my area and they've been up for sale for 2/3 months - and like clock work, they come in every month and ask me if I've changed my mind and will I give them $5,000 for their 96Si .. for what.? it's a $2,000 car, "maybe" .. it's got 155k, *
"what is a good price for both"--for the dealer, $4995 is fantastic, for him. For your friend, $2500 maybe (my guess). Then there's the 136K miles.....even Hondas can be pricy to maintain after 10 years.
so your advice is needed in a hurry ,please..............Jay (will update you either way)
I researched using Edmunds.com and I also looked online at what other owners of this model are asking for similar mileage (69-100 K mi)...and typical ask price is $12,999.
So I figure a dealer should be willing to give me 9500-10,000 if he will flip it and make 1500 or so? Am I being unrealistic? What should I expect as an initial dealer offer on this trade-in and shoudl I challenge it no matter what they offer initially?
Thanks.
Use the form above the posting area and include ALL required information.
For example, is it 2wd,4wd, AWD? and so on....
I see several advertised with 50K-70K at dealers lots for $10,900 ASKING.
Still, though, in a perfect world I don't see why the Ins Co would care... No supplementals, no nothing. Quick resolution all around. OTOH, the possibility of supplementals probably depresses the price more than it should, so in practice... the Real World Trade In Value should be artificially depressed, no?
Location: Mid Hudson Valley, NY
Year/Make/Model: 2002 Honda Accord EX
Body Style: 4dr Sedan
Engine: 2.4 liter, 4 cylinder, manual 5spd
Driveline: FWD
Mileage: 23,900
Color: Red/Tan Cloth
Major Options: Standard EX stuff (alloys, Sunroof, 6CD/Cassette) plus
Factory Leather Steering Wheel (not sew-on)
Leather Shift knob
All Weather mats (front)
Trunk Liner
Cargo Net
Condition:
Paint - clean and deep, 2" scratch in top coat on right rear bumper
Interior - Immaculate (some wear on floor mats)
Tires - 50? % worn
Brakes - uncertain (no problems, though)
Maintenance - Records available, 5-7K oil changes
Eligible for HondaCare (less than 3rys old)
Many Thanks,
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**I'm thinking about moving up to the 2005 version of same car (but in blue),** ............ are you nuts.? .. you have a nice car now - take it to Earl Sheib and have it painted blue (yuk) ..
Anywaaaaaaay .. in the Hudson Valley of NY, we have this low low mile 02 Hooonda EX with the 4 banger ... the color is just ok, the miles are low, slider, wheels, all the typical EX stuff and we got a handshaker (not good) ..... if the service is right, the paint is better, the rubber is strong .. then trade side, in and around the low/mid $11's, might maybe get a dealer to wander towards the $12 figure ... the handshaker kills it and the low miles might save it ..... down the windy road of Retail Rd.? super bath, super Ad and $14,495 *asking* and cut it loose for the first $13/$13,9 ..... might be a little tuff to sell, tax savings difference in NY - right.? .....
Update Update --- don't forget the update ..
Terry.
Terry :shades:
Hope you had a great 4th. I spent it on Cape Cod. Now there's a target rich golf environment. You should check it out sometime.
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Terry, I need some help guesstimating my daughters cars value. It's a 97 Pontiac Grand Am 2-dr SE Coupe, 60K, Black w/gray cloth, V6, Auto, CD, pop-up moon roof thingie, PW/PDL, rear spoiler, cruise, cold AC, that's about it for extras. Condition is average, there is some minor damage to front driver side corner from a fender bender accident, the paint is fair overall, tires need replacing, interior would be excellent if it weren't for a couple of burn spots from a previous owner, engine/tranny runs strong but the charge light comes on occasionally without notice, everything else works, it's located in MA..
OK, by now you get the picture. It'll get you to Jimmy's Harborside... but it's not usually parked out front by the valet. I figure/hope it might be worth more than a really good set of golf clubs and a weekend at the Boston TPC.
It seems the miles and the drivetrain are the best things it has going for it. Overall curb appeal is probably only fair-to-middle'n though. But, what sayeth the great automotive sage?
Thanks.
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**Now there's a target rich golf environment** ...l..o..l.... you got that right, you know that's happening when 15 year old caddys are wearing Rolex's .. I played at Hyannis and Pinehills, nice courses - snobby people ......
Back to the auto stuff's ..... we got this 97 Grand Am 2dr SE V6 .... the miles are low for the year, color is good for the area, auto, pop-top, power pack, cold breeze, the rubber is raw and based on what your telling me, we have "around" $300ish in meteorite hits ..... trade side, in and around the $1,0/$1,500 zipcode ... maybe take a trip down Retail Rd, new Sears rubber, maybe a little detail and/or body work and a great Ad: $3,495 *asking* and $2,5/$2,900 finds a new owner .... the low miles and the V6 should save it ..
Terry.
PS: there's something to said about those new hybrid clubs
4wd .................................?
Cloth ....................................?
Suggested Information for posting trade-in values:
Location: [city/state or nearest metropolitan area]
Year/Make/Model:
Body Style: [2dr/4dr/wagon]
Engine: [3.5 liter, 4/6 cylinder, auto/manual]
Driveline: [FWD/RWD/AWD/4WD]
Mileage:
Color: [exterior/interior]
Major Options: [alloys, sun roof, etc.]
Condition:
Details of interior and exterior, including dings, scratches etc.
Tires - new or % worn
Brakes
Maintenance
Other: Indicate prior damage/insurance claims, repaints, etc
El reado the wordo's and follow el directiono's ......
kkkkkkilling me .......
Terry.
Terry.
Thanks,
Nel
Southern Maryland
2003 Honda Odysey EXL with RES
minivan
mileage: 40900
color: Black
Interior is excellent condition no spill or KFC on the carpet.
minor scratches on the bumper on the passenger side
maintenance is up to date with every 5000 miles oil and tire rotation
tires still original
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In Mary-land ...... there is a 03 Hoooonda Ody EXL RES, it's got 41k, the color is no help for a family truckster, service is ok, rubber is weak and no food fights ..... if ~ we haven't had any vacations at Maaco, then trade side in and around the mid/tall $17's maybe the low low low low $18's ... bad color, no rubber and high miles will hold this one back .... sounds like they're both on the $$ .......
Terry.
The dealer has an Autocheck online of the vehicle. I guess it is like a carfax maybe. It shows one owner and that it went to auction on 6/9/05 New England Region. I would love to know what he may have in it so I dont overly lowball him $2500 sounds great to me.
Any other thoughts would be great as I am going to look at it this afternoon.
Dillydill
so your advice is needed in a hurry ,please..............Jay (will update you either way)
Since reposting is a good thing . . . he goes. . . for the second time. . .
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A friend is interested in buying this from an independant store.
Located in Central MA
1995
Honda Del Sol SI 2dr coupe/targa
1.6 4 cylinder MANUAL 5 speed
136 K Miles
FWD
Black with gray cloth
alloy wheels, ac,
Haven't yet seen it but was wondering if there is no paint by numbers or Taliban interior and all maitenance is up to date what is a good price for both.
He is asking 4995
It says online the VIN is
JHMEH6162SS007736
The dealer has an Autocheck online of the vehicle. I guess it is like a carfax maybe. It shows one owner and that it went to auction on 6/9/05 New England Region. I would love to know what he may have in it so I dont overly lowball him $2500 sounds great to me.
Any other thoughts would be great as I am going to look at it this afternoon.
Dillydill
Thanks for the help
2002 Toyota Sienna LE sympony
Minivan
3.0 L FWD 22000 miles
Color: Gold/Biege
Options: Alloys, premium sound, ABS, Side Airbags, Rear A/C, Power Sliding Door (passenger), Drivers Power Door, towing package.
Conditions:
Interior: Some scratches in the plastic trim in the back....Could use a detailing due to french fry attacks.
Exterior: No dents or Dings, but some scratches on the paint.
Tires/Breaks: Original. Probably 50% remaining.
Oild Change every 3000 Miles.
No accidents or body work.
Why are we getting rid of it? Well, we probably are not, but my wife is jelious of my new car.
He told me it needs a new timing belt and He was pretty firm on the 4995 so I said thanks and good luck.
Here is another Del Sol.
This one is a VTEC
Located in Southern New Hampshire.
1994 Honda Del Sol VTEC
Black/Black cloth
90K Miles
5 speed Manual
1.6L 4 cyl
FWD
It should have alloy wheels and ac not much of a description online.
Havent seen it yet but would like to know what would be a good deal for both.
Independant store is asking $3995
Vin is
JHMEG1145RS002240
Thanks again and maybe as woody says I should wait until the snow falls.
Regards,
Dillydill
Location: Elvisland
Body Style: 2dr
Engine: 3.0 liter, 6 cylinder, auto
Driveline: FWD
Mileage: 47K
Color: white exterior/ tan leather
Major Options: loaded with all of the EX goodies, power everything, 6 disc changer, TCS, cruise, etc. including rear spoiler
Condition: no evidence of any paintwork, in v good condition in and out
Tires - new
Brakes - dont know
Maintenance - don't know
Other: dealer got from auction and the car lived its life in NJ (I suspected such by the slightly rusted exterior of the exhaust system and slight surface rust on some of the undercarriage bolt heads). Now for the odd part. The car is offered as a CPO, BUT the title check showed that the original lease title had an "exceeds mechanical limits" title in NJ! Could this just have been a documentation error?
Here is the VIN#, 1HGCG22512A006708. What do you think the dealer has in it?
Should I pass or ?
Thanks!
Jim
I am not even sure who is ultimately responsible for the whole situation. The loans were arranged by Bowman Automotive and paperwork signed at the dealership. Aside from contacting the States Attorney General, which most of these people have done, what are the options.
I'm thinking that since the transaction was never completed because the title paperwork was not delivered, that the third lender has to go after the dealership to recoup its money, not the buyer of the car. Do the banks regularly issue the checks to the dealers before they get the titles? BHPH doesn't have to worry about this.
It is just a bad deal all the way around for a lot of people.
4 wheel drive, 18500 miles, Forest Green, Ls dark charcoal cloth interior, forged polishd whhels, snow plow prep package, cd, power everything, trailering package, spotless interior and exterior, bed liner, New BFG At tires with 6000 miles on them, New rear brakes, all maintenance, New rear tailgate from GM because of recall on straps, new front bumper from Gm from an accident. Bumber Only!!!
VIN: JHMEG1145RS002240 1994 Honda Civic Del Sol
Event Date Event Location Odometer Reading Data Source Event Detail
05/13/1994 HILLSBORO, NH 19 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:06629478) (Lien Reported)
11/30/1995 HILLSBORO, NH Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
11/29/1996 HILLSBORO, NH Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
11/28/1997 HILLSBORO, NH Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
11/30/1998 HILLSBORO, NH Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
11/29/1999 HILLSBORO, NH Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
The history doesn't show any accidents .. that said, NH doesn't show mileage either ..l.o.l... but it's a one owner ...
$3,995...? it's a V-Tec and these little critters get some money - wholesale or retail ..... this one shows small miles and the price is right, if your lookin' to spend $2,000 then give it up ... winter/summer it ain't going to happen unless you can find a guy that just busted out in Vegas or just came out of a coma .. they're kinda like Harleys, drop them in the garage in cold snowy Ohio and wait til' spring and you'll get "all" the money ...
Terry.
so your advice is needed in a hurry ,please.............. Jay (will update you either way)
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05 Stang el coupe' GT with 7,000 miles ..... the miles are lowish, the color works in Hotlanta and we got that movin' around thing between the seats .... no hits, no runs no errors...? .. if so, then the dealer probably paid in and around super tall $25's low/mid $26's, maybe more .. I'm thinkin' $28/$30ish(?) on the Retail side.? -- these dudes are aaaall over the place money wise, I mean they can go for $30,000 to $38,000 on the wholesale side ... and no, that's not a missprint, a MSO GT in Tampa just rung the bell at (GULP.!) $38,000 big ones -- American money .... Yowzaa.! ................... so pick a number.
Terry. :shades:
I'll give you an update when I find out how things go.
I really appreciate it!!
Terry.
Terry.
Also what is a "MSO" mustang, and where are the GT's plentiful and cheap, How long do you see these inflated prices----through the 2006 models? Jay
2003 nissan frontier
xe king cab
2.4 4cyl.5manual
rwd
8600
red/gray
alloys bed liner
parking lot damage on rear bumper interior clean
tires are 25%
maintance is good
none
trade in value please
you are in FL.if so how is dennis treating you, not too bad in jville yet
and what car or truck thats good on gas do you like,gas prices in jville are $2.30 for reg.
We're looking at getting a different car and either want to sell or trade in our current BMW. Here's some information. We would like to know what our best price option is for either selling it ourselves or trading it in.
thanks!
Location:Portland, OR
Year/Make/Model: 2001 BMW 528i Sedan
Body Style: 4dr
Engine: 6cyl, 5 speed auto
Driveline: FWD
Mileage: 71000
Color: Black/Black leather
Major Options: Premium package, sunroof, multi-compact disc
Condition:
Exterior:
A few paint chips in the front of the hood, a few small door dings on the right hand side
New tires within the last 6 months
New brakes within the last 6 months
Maintenance: Regular scheduled maintenance at the dealer
Other: Rear bumper has been replaced twice. Once for a small scrape. Second was a major rear end. All repairs and body work were done by the BMW dealership.
1998 Plymouth Grand Voyager SE
Minivan
V6, 3.0 L auto
FWD
Mileage: 75300
Exterior color: Gold / Interior: Tan cloth
Options: Driver side sliding door, A/C, rear A/C, power steering, power windows, power locks, AM/FM Cassette, Cruise control, tilt wheel, ABS, Dual front airbags.
Condition: 1 ding w/chipped paint by rear wing window, 1 surface scratch on rt rear quarterpanel. Seats clean, carpets could use a cleaning. Non smoking car.
Tires: new
Brakes: Not sure
Maintenance: all up to date, but didn't keep records.
No accidents, repaints or insurance claims.
Give me your best estimate please!