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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,330
    This place still alive? Hope someone is stillmonitoring!

    Anyway, need a trade in value for a friend (totally clueless, so easily clubbed).

    2002 CRV EX, all wheel drive. Blue over gray cloth. Moonroof, CD changer (that apparantly doesn't want to spit out the CDs at the moment). AT.

    116K on the clock. Good tires, just had some expensive work (O2 sensors, new cat converter, rear brakes including 1 new caliper).

    some body dings and nicks (it goes into NYC every day), interior is fine (single owner, no kids helps a lot with this!). No accidents that I am aware of. Would probably clean up OK.

    No interest in a private sale, and likely to go to a Honda dealer on trade for a new civic.

    In the northern burbs of NYC.

    .

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  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I'd fix that CD changer. Right now the condition may qualify as "beater" and it's way too new for that (despite the high miles).

    Try disconnecting the battery, reset it, see if that works. He/she has nothing to lose...
  • kmurpkmurp Member Posts: 21
    Upstate NY, 52000 miles tan/gold, Impala LS 3.8V6, sunroof new tires and brakes and in good condition. Private Party vs. trade in price please.
  • igozoomzoomigozoomzoom Member Posts: 801
    In good condition, the Private Party Value should be about $7000, give or take $200-$300. Trade-In Value is in the $5300-$5800 range.
    2015.5 Volvo S60 T6 Drive-E Platinum, 2012 Mazda CX-9 GT
  • erikpsmitherikpsmith Member Posts: 9
    It's very unusual for an LS 2003 Impala to have a 3.8 motor and a sunroof. Take it from an ex-Chevy salesguy.

    Could it be an LT instead? And there are a few other important questions -- Leather or cloth? And bench seat or buckets?

    Does it have the alloy wheels? With alloys you got ABS. You can see it too on the dash, if an "ABS" symbol lights up when you start the car.

    Here's the thing -- I wouldn't slavishly follow the books on this car and expect to get all the dollars they say. The miles are excellent, but the color is an "old person" color that doesn't appeal so well to the younger folks who are looking for a used car in this range. You call it gold, I think of it as beige -- and the big thing is that the young turn their noses up at this shade. And the 60+ crowd that likes beige cars -- they're usually looking for something newer, because they grew up in the days when a seven-year-old car was ready for the junkpile. So it's not going to be an easy sell to them, either. Any dealer will know this and will base his offer accordingly. He's probably going to be sitting on it for a while.

    I'm not knocking the Impala. The 2000-2005 Impala/Monte Carlo with the 3.8 is one of the best cars GM made, and it is an absolutely terrific used car value. I own one myself, and I love it. But one of the reasons they're such a good value -- to a buyer -- is that they look big, and so people think they get bad gas mileage (which ain't true -- the mileage is actually terrific). That makes them hard to sell, especially if they're beige, and doubly so if they've got that filthy-looking factory cloth.

    If it's got the 3.8 and sunroof, as you say, I'll betcha it's got other goodies, too, which will help you sell it. Gosh, I hope you've got leather. I'm sure the book numbers you see here are right... but the book numbers don't mean a heckuva lot, and I wouldn't be surprised if you wound up having to take a grand off either one of those figures. If you're trading at a dealership, of course, the dealer will find a way to conceal the valuation problem -- there's always a way -- so I know I'll look like I'm full of hooey. But you get the salesperson to talk honestly, you'll hear the same thing.

    Erik Smith
    Olympia, Wash.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,330
    2002 CRV EX, all wheel drive. Blue over gray cloth. Moonroof, CD changer (that apparantly doesn't want to spit out the CDs at the moment). AT.

    116K on the clock. Good tires, just had some expensive work (O2 sensors, new cat converter, rear brakes including 1 new caliper).

    some body dings and nicks (it goes into NYC every day), interior is fine (single owner, no kids helps a lot with this!). No accidents that I am aware of. Would probably clean up OK.

    No interest in a private sale, and likely to go to a Honda dealer on trade for a new civic.

    In the northern burbs of NYC

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  • lrguy44lrguy44 Member Posts: 2,197
    $5-$7k - recon. Manheim results.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,330
    wasn't thinking quite that high, but if she can get 5k+, it will be nice.

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  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    CRV's bring crazy money as used cars!

    They won't know the CD player isn't working unless you tell them and if you do, they may make a big deal out of it. I would try a local car stereo shop and see if they can fix it cheaply.

    Depending on how bad the dings and scratches are she shouild get 6-7000 from a dealer I would think. For 5000.00, if you were local, I would be the one buying it!
  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    " He knew what he was getting himself into"

    That is a VERY good thing!

    " I think it'll be okay"

    I guess there can be rare exceptions!
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,330
    since the owner is an upderpaid catholic school teacher, she will be quite happy to get more than expected, especially if she can get a good deal on a new Civic.

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  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    Tehre is no shortage of inventory on Civics now so she can get a great deal.

    She should expect a lot for that CRV. The only bad thing is the miles but they aren't horribly high.

    I just hope she is happy in a Civic after owning a CRV.
  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    Stick - you are missing your obvious shot here..... trying to sell the CRV to me. Being an EX it should have a sunroof....
    2015 Mazda 6 Grand Touring, 2014 Mazda 3 Sport Hatchback, 1999 Mazda Miata 2004 Toyota Camry LE, 1999.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    It does unless it's an LX.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,330
    yeah, I thought about you. But she was pretty insistent about not wanting to deal with a private sale. But, only about 10 minutes or so from where you travelled to buy your last car!

    Yes, it does have a moonroof. Gray insides, medium/dark blue exterior. May need struts/shocks at this point, but last time I rode in it seemed solid.

    so, shoot me an offer, in case the dealers don't pony up like LR and isell think they will.

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  • sixspeedgsixspeedg Member Posts: 3
    Looking to get a potential Private Party/Trade-In for 2009 MINI JCW Hardtop with 8500 miles. Red w/ Black Roof/Stripes, JCW Aero Kit, Cold Weather Pack, Bi-Xenons, Bluetooth & iPod/USB, Auto Climate, Multi-Function Suede steering wheel, chrome line interior, JCW strut brace, JCW side scuttles. Located in Long Island, NY. Thanks.
  • aj4caj4c Member Posts: 5
    edited May 2010
    Hi I was hoping for some help.
    My mother would like to buy a new car, and I’d like to sell her old car privately for her so she doesn’t have to trade it in.

    The details are as follows:
    -2002 Subaru Outback Wagon
    -The color is regatta red pearl (with a tan interior)
    -60,300 miles
    -It has a CD player and a towing hitch, both of which were added aftermarket
    -It has a 5 speed manual transmission

    I would say that for an 8 year old car both the interior and exterior are in decent shape. My mother always makes a point of parking away from other cars in parking lots and the car has always been garaged- that being said, it is an 8 year old car.

    This car is located in the NYC area (Westchester County)

    Thank you for any guidance you can provide with regard to appropriate pricing.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,718
    oh, the catholic guilt thing. i can suffer from that, at times. ;)
    craigs, EX for sale, well taken care of, passes emissions, cd player is balky.
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  • delthekingdeltheking Member Posts: 1,152
    My guessstimate on this one is around $6.5k-- so between 6k-7k ! :shades: :P
  • sbuhlersbuhler Member Posts: 123
    Looking for an average auction value of a
    2009 Nissan Murano SL 2WD, 12500 miles
    Premium package (no leather or NAV)
    Southeastern area

    Thanks
  • delthekingdeltheking Member Posts: 1,152
    edited May 2010
    My guesstimate is around 25k : maybe 25.5k. B'cos for some places 2WD is abig deal,for others it`s not.
    What did they offer??
  • bugplaybugplay Member Posts: 10
    edited May 2010
    I'm wondering about the trade value of the following:

    Northern Virginia area
    2008 Prius - Base Model (Not the Touring)
    63,000k Miles
    Package No. 6 which includes Navigation and Leather
    Body excellent - not even a door ding
    Interior excellent. No tears, rips or cracks in leather.
    No accidents.
    New tires.

    I've looked at KBB, Edmunds, Black Book and NADA Guides - big disparity.

    Any ideas?
  • sbuhlersbuhler Member Posts: 123
    Offered actual cash value is at $22,100 (I am purchasing a new base Armada SE for approximately Invoice-holdback-4000 rebate). There is some reconditioning that will need to be done to the Murano (new windshield, small dent, and some scratches). Most of the SL's have the leather and navigation which I don't have. I just have the premium package which is the Bose stereo and a few other minor options. I actually only paid $25,000 new in July of 2009, but was trying to make sure I am getting as much money for it as possible.

    Any other insights?
  • delthekingdeltheking Member Posts: 1,152
    That makes it a bit clearer. Most probably with a 2WD your price would be around 24k I guess. So 22,100 is very reasonable considering that some reconditioning has to be done which can get expensive. Also any reconditioning done on relatively new cars scares a lot of the buyers.Fair enough I would say. Maybe can try for 22.5k.

    Also just some advice. Dont buy the Armada .It has one of the worst reliabilities. Infact the Titan,Armada,Quest were the worst vehicles made by Nissan and they were the worst vehicles produced in USA from 04-07. I have an 04 Quest and it is a pretty poor vehicle considering that the loaded model costs 35k+ new .Plus,Armada sucks gas.. I would keep the Murano-- better reliability,fuel economy and resale. The Armada`s resale value is one of the worst out there. Any reason why you want to buy a big SUV like Armada? But much better choices out there.
  • delthekingdeltheking Member Posts: 1,152
    High miles on a newer car like a 1 or 2 yr old model really kills the resale value and they are sometimes tough to assess. But the good thing is it`s a Prius. They have better resales. My guesstimate on this one is between 10k-11k.

    Probably depends on the dealer too here. A Toyota dealer may offer more than a non-Toyota one. Try Carmax if you are near one of them. They give an actual cash value -good for 7 days.
  • bugplaybugplay Member Posts: 10
    Thanks deltheking. I traded the Prius for a Hyundai Santa Fe. They gave me $12,500 for the Prius (and several thousand dollars below invoice for the Santa Fe) so I guess I did good.
  • sbuhlersbuhler Member Posts: 123
    Actually we had a 2007 Armada that was leased and turned in last year when we purchased the Murano. My wife has missed the Armada since the day we turned it in. The 2007 Armada was actually the best vehicle and most reliable we have ever owned (minus gas mileage). We hope the 2010 Armada will be as good to us. Don't get me wrong the Murano is a very nice vehicle, but the rear visibility has caused my wife to run in to my truck and the basketball goal even with the rear view camera.
  • delthekingdeltheking Member Posts: 1,152
    edited May 2010
    As it was a lease, I am guessing you drove it less than 30k miles with the full Nissan warr intact. After the 36k miles expire--the problems start ;)

    Armada brake and rotor problems ,tire problems and numerous squeaks and rattles are very well known. Probably on a new vehicle-tough to see those problems. I always test drive a 40k-50k mile car if I can to decide how good /reliable it will be with time down the line . :P

    But just wanted to let you know some facts on the Armada,and also do consider its poor resale value.And also it is in its last year of production as far as I know. A newer redesigned one will be around the corner and then it will be a 5 yr old dated model. Just my opinion !!
  • jayriderjayrider Member Posts: 3,602
    Great idea deltheking, drive a used model before you decide on the new ride. Will do that next time.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,718
    one our relatives has an Armada which they drive hard, the only problem they have had in over 4 years of ownership(bought used) was a flat tire.
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  • delthekingdeltheking Member Posts: 1,152
    edited May 2010
    One of my friend`s sister`s relatives had an 05 Dodge Neon which had no problems till 250k miles.. So what ? Just b`cos 1 person had a good or bad experience ,doesn`t mean it is reflective of everyone. It is what it is. Facts are facts and I dont care if it`s a Nissan,Ford or any other make. MB has poor reliability: Few % may have no problems.Does it mean that MB is reliable?

    For every person you know that has a good experience,there are thousands others who have had a dismal experience.Nissan CEO himself admitted to problems at its Canton,MI plant where Quest,Titan ,Armada were produced. Several quality control teams were sent to that plant to evaluate the horrible quality concerns and problems.It was new plant with new workers with new equipment producing 3 new models - all for the 1st time- and it ended up being a colossal disaster and Nissan and it`s CEO had to do some major shake ups !
  • sebring95sebring95 Member Posts: 3,241
    Actually, it's usually the other way around. For everyone with a hunk of junk there's gobs of others with no problems. Even using the published reliability ratings pretty much confirms the difference between best and worst is not that vast of a delta. The earlier years Titans/Armadas did have QC problems but so do a lot of other new design vehicles. Our Honda Odyssey (2005) has relatively low reliability ratings and it has had pretty much every known first-year issue around (quite a list btw...) but the vehicle is still one of our favorites. Sometimes buying the vehicle you really like is worth living with a few problems. I recently switched from a steady diet of Toyotas to a Nissan and even if this thing ( a Pathfinder) turns out to be less reliable, I still like it more than the 4Runner.

    I'll say it until I'm blue in the face....Buy what you LIKE. Buying just for reliability makes it even more painful when it has a problem. Buying just for resale still costs you more when you trade it early because you WANT something else. If you happen to find something you really like that has a high reliabity rating and good resale value...bonus.
  • bugplaybugplay Member Posts: 10
    Will be trading our 2009 Honda Pilot in the coming days for a CR-V. We no longer need such a large car with low gas mileage. What would be a good trade value for the following:

    Northern Virginia area
    2009 Honda Pilot EX-L
    AWD
    White
    Gray Leather
    32,400 miles
    Original Owner
    Maintained by dealer.
    Immaculate condition. (No accidents, no damage, not even a door ding.)

    I've looked at Kelley Blue Book, Edmunds, Black Book and NADA. There is a significant difference in value from the lowest (Black Book) to the highest (NADA).

    Any idea what the true world value for this as a trade would be? What does Manhiem numbers look like?

    Thanks so much.
  • lemmerlemmer Member Posts: 2,689
    I'll be the first to say the money you'll lose on trade in will buy a ton of gas. I see the Pilot is rated at 18 MPG combined and a CRV 22. Yeah, it is gonna take a while to make that up for the trade in loss.
  • dbtdbt Member Posts: 298
    edited May 2010
    I see you put a good bit of mileage on it, and hence the need to get something more fuel efficient. Rather than the CRV, try:
    Subaru Outback 2.5i with CVT
    Subaru Forester
    Mazda5
    2011 Odyssey (later, supposed to get 30mpg highway)

    SUVs have been selling very well, as far as I can see. 1 MDX available at my local dealer today. Not many Pilots (2 or 3) as I went by faster. Mileage will kill your value though.
  • abozichabozich Member Posts: 1
    Looking at a black 2007 Camry LE I4 with 35,000 miles. I'm a novice at the used car game, so I figured I would gather opinions on whether or not the price I'm getting is fair.

    Car seems to be in very good shape, has a clean Car Fax and I bought my last Accord from this same dealer. He's offered to let me take it to my mechanic to check it out and it was not involved in the pedal recall. Also has new pads and rotors on the front brakes.

    Price on the car is $13,405. Any feedback or suggestions are appreciated.
  • jipsterjipster Member Posts: 6,296
    "Fair" doesn't count in the car buying biz. Check out Edmunds used car price guide. I'd start at dealer trade-in value and end at private party value.
    2021 Honda Passport EX-L, 2020 Honda Accord EX-L, 2011 Hyundai Veracruz, 2010 Mercury Milan Premiere.
  • jkw01jkw01 Member Posts: 1
    Could someone please help with a Trade-In Value?

    Springfield, Missouri - 65810
    2004 Honda Accord LX
    Sedan
    2.4L I4, automatic
    79k miles
    Black/Tan cloth
    deck lid spoiler (similar to hybrid) from Honda dealership
    light colored wood trim on door handles and console from Honda dealership
    six small chips on hood, 2 small chips on roof from highway driving-no rust, no other dings or scratches, paint is shiny
    Interior is good, no stains or tears, no smoke, no pets, average wear on driver seat, no wear on other seats, mats are clean with no stains
    Newer tires, less than 6k miles
    Brake Pads - 50% according to dealer
    Oil changed every 3k-4k miles at Jiffy Lube or dealership. Did a couple of the services at dealership, I think around 30k and 60k miles.
    1 owner, clean carfax, no wrecks or claims

    Thanks in advance.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,718
    you believe too many car magazines.
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  • unfitunfit Member Posts: 12
    Chapel Hill, NC 27514
    2007 Honda Fit Base Model 5dr with manual transmission
    29000 miles
    Silver with black cloth interior
    Keyless entry, cruise control and center armrest added
    Interior in good shape
    Tires are still good but have less than 10k miles left
    Clutch still tight
    Well maintained and recently out of warranty

    The exterior has some hail dings on the hood and roof and I am quoted $900 to fix them

    Should I spend the money before I try to trade? What is the difference in trade allowance with and without the dings?

    I am the second owner and received some great advice in this very forum when I purchased the vehicle. Many thanks!
  • 100chuck100chuck Member Posts: 149
    Location Ann Arbor Michigan
    FWD 4 cylinder automatic
    7000 miles
    Cloth interior dark gray
    Exterior Black Pearl Slate
    Options: Moonroof, Sync, cargo cover, wet box, indash cd player.
    Excellent condition no accidents
    Looking to trade in on a used 2010 Taurus SHO.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I'm predicting you will not be happy with what you hear.
  • lrguy44lrguy44 Member Posts: 2,197
    Which trim level - XLS, XLT or Limited?
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Administrator Posts: 11,242
    Are we going to have to put you in a home, LRguy? It says "XLT" in the post title. :P

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  • lrguy44lrguy44 Member Posts: 2,197
    Somebody said to me this morning "good to see you". My reply was "At my age it is good to see anyone." I'll check Manheim now.
  • lrguy44lrguy44 Member Posts: 2,197
    $13-$15k
  • 100chuck100chuck Member Posts: 149
    edited June 2010
    Wow that's a big drop in ten months :cry: Thanks for the quick response.
  • lrguy44lrguy44 Member Posts: 2,197
    Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but it is difficult to trade a car that quickly and not suffer.
  • 100chuck100chuck Member Posts: 149
    Ann Arbor Michigan
    1999 Jaguar XJ8
    Exterior Blue Sapphire
    Interior Oatmeal
    76,000 miles
    Winter package which is trac control and heated seats
    moonroof
    Condition good a few door dings no rust paint is in good condition I don't drive it in the winter
    rear-ended about six years ago
    Looking to sell this myself
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