Our 2002 mazda van had the check engine light come on last week. Mechanic says its the transmission. The light will come on and it will drive fine, then every now and then it starts jerking and riding rough. Then it will be fine again.
We were planning on buying a new car this fall, but now we'll buy it this month. Ugh. We were planning on trading in the van. Didn't expect to get much for it...maybe $1000. It's 110,000 miles with some rust and it leaks oil. My mechanic says just take the van to the dealer and don't say anything. Will this work?
In the past, we'd drive our cars for 10-12 years and then donate to charity, but we no longer itemize deductions and I'd like to get something out of this van.
they will give you something, but that might be about it. Just give them the keys and let them look it over. If the light is on, up to them to look into it.
The light will come on and it will drive fine, then every now and then it starts jerking and riding rough. Then it will be fine again.
You may be in luck... that sounds exactly like what a friend of mine went through with her '01/02/03 Mazda van... not sure what year exactly.
The good news is that in her case, they reprogrammed the transmission electronics via a factory service update -- dunno if it was a recall or just a TSB -- but it didn't cost anything and it fixed the problem.
In her case, it showed up much earlier, though, so it may be unrelated. It's worth hitting the Mazda forums and/or taking the van to the Mazda dealer for a look-see.
Thanks Mathias. I know I've followed up on the 2 recalls I had. But I'll check the TSB's and the MPV forums. And I might take it to the dealer. I have a good mechanic and I trust him, but people can be wrong.
Any generalizations one can make when buying a used car from a dealership?
I'm looking at a 2006 Nissan Altima S (4 cyl) with 93k miles. Very good condition... only problem are tires are really loud.
The sticker price on car at dealership lot is $12,600. The internet sales price is $10,400. KBB and Edmunds put the trade in at around $6,700, private party at around $8,200 and retail around $10k.
The car has been on the dealership lot 24 days. It's a one owner with limited maintence recorded on Carfax. Original owners have not returned phone call so I can inquire about history.
I understand some dealerships trade out after a vehicle has been on their lot 30 days, so is dealership more likely to take less money the longer a car has sat on the lot?
How would you play this one? I'm thinking startout with an out the door offer at $8,200 (6% sales tax) .. maybe go up to $8,600. :confuse:
I've got a 2004 MPV... does indeed sound like "shift shock". A reprogramming of transmission control module may be in order, or it may need replaced. Much less than a new trans though. Try unhooking battery cables and see if this helps any. This will reset the trans computer brain. If van does better, then shows old symptoms, you'll know your trans is fine.
May be worthwhile to know what code your MPV threw? Symptoms also sound a bit like ignition coil problem. Either way, that van is worth a HAIL of a lot more than $1,000.
Trade-in is more like $5500. Maybe $6k on a push, as that is what they are going through auction for.
Your numbers may be a bit low, but it can't hurt to try. Personally, I'd be thinking $8k purchase plus the $480 tax, plus the DMV and doc fees for a potential total of about $9k OTD.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
After 2,5 years buying BMW upon receiving green light from you guys, here I am again. Looking at a 2009 A5 3.2 manual transmission quattro with 20K miles. According to listing, it has premium package, s-line package, technology package and also Bang and Olufsen stereo. The guy did not mention nav but as far as I know navigation package is required for technology package. It is from a private party and he is asking for $35K.
'02 BMW 530i, sport pack/auto, xenons, cold weather pack, light blue (silver/blue?) over black leather. 101,000 miles, VERY nice condition in/out, newer Michelin Pilots, maintenance records available.
Couple interesting things about it: It's got the BMW "seat twist." The dealer (not a BMW franchise, but a new car dealer) doesn't want to investigate it.
Here's the other wrinkle: the car has been on their lot for the better part of a YEAR now. I'm assuming it's a combination of the color and the jacked up seats that keep this a lot queen... There seems to be about a 3k spread between TMV and KBB.
What say the experts? What would be a good low-ball-but-not-insulting offer to the dealer (it should be noted that I've done business with this dealer in the past, and plan to in the future.)
One side of the reclining seat sticks while the other side still moves- twisting the backrest. It's almost certainly a cable problem. It's a fairly easy fix. Here's is some additional information.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
They've got it for $10,987 on their lot, although it's been listed as low as $9,987. I have to say that I don't know what to look for when looking for the premium package...it's pretty well loaded (sunroof, xenons, side and rear sunshades; the rear sunshade has broken the tabs but the motor still functions) but no nav or CD changer.
just curious. Private sale on this. Asking $7,995. Looks clean in pictures.
Very Clean and only 71,000 miles! Light Blue with Tan Leather interior, loaded. Automatic, heated seats, moonroof. Well maintained, service records, clean CARFAX.
Columbus, OH 2009 Honda CRV EX-L, AWD 20k miles, local lease turn-in Ugly light blue over gray leather. Assume it's very good condition but haven't checked it out yet. Dealer won't talk $$ over the phone which is annoying but this is the best one I've found so far.
Their asking price is about $4,200 under what we could get an identical new one. Reasonable for a Honda I think but I'm curious if there's more money on the table. There are certainly some out there very close to new car prices (at least asking price) but there also appears to be a ton of these coming off lease right now.
$23,600 non-CPO. It's at the worst dealer around....salesman had no clue what I even meant when I asked if it was certified. He had to ask his manager :sick: Just had one show up at my preferred dealer. It's at the other end of the spectrum so might be worthin looking up as well:
2010 LX AWD, 21k miles. Non-CPO. Asking price is within $2k of a new one....
Ah, ok, then...yeah, it's got the premium package.
I think what I think it's worth, what the dealer thinks it's worth, and (most importantly) what Mrs. Lance thinks it's worth are all three different numbers.
Came across this car on Craigs list. Does it seem priced appropriately? Lots of rebuilt title cars for sale on the market. This guy seems pretty straightforward. Has pics. Worth the risk? Thanks.
Price: $ 7,749.00 Miles: 50180 Body: 4D Sedan Model Year: 2007 Color: blue transmission: Automatic Make: Ford Engine: 2.3L 4 cylinder Model: Fusion VIN: 3FAHP07Z97R214729 REBUILT TITLE
Equipment • 6 Speakers• CD player changer • Radio data system• Air conditioning• Power driver seat• Power windows• Steering wheel mounted audio controls• Speed-sensing steering• ABS brakes• Dual front side impact airbags• Low tire pressure warning• Overhead airbag• Front fog lights• Security system• Bodyside moldings• Power door mirrors• Driver vanity mirror• Illuminated entry• Passenger vanity mirror• Tachometer• Tilt steering wheel• Cloth Front Bucket Seats• Split folding rear seat• Passenger door bin • AM/FM radio• MP3 decoder• SIRIUS Satellite Radio• Rear window defroster• Power steering• Remote keyless entry• Four wheel independent suspension• 4-Wheel Disc Brakes• Dual front impact airbags• Front anti-roll bar• Occupant sensing airbag• Rear anti-roll bar• Panic alarm• Speed control• Bumpers: body-color • Driver door bin• Front reading lights• • Rear seat center armrest• Telescoping steering wheel• Trip computer• Front Bucket Seats• Front Center Armrest w/Storage • Speed-Sensitive Wipers
Comment SE!! FOG Lights!! Alarm, Fog Lights, Power Package, 6 Way Power Seat, Chrome Grill, Sirius, Steering Wheel Audio Controls, and MUCH MORE!! Clean CAR!!
However the car had been wrecked from front end driver side the airbags Never deployed as it Shows in the pics , please read and look to the pics very well before u make your call CAR VALUE IN BLUE BOOK $10,500 .
Most people say to deduct 1/3 of what you would normally pay if it has a rebuilt title. Also consider that the airbags probably weren't replaced (and even if they were, the system may not be working correctly).
I've heard there are issue getting insurance on these rebuilt vehicles (I don't have any first had experience). You may want to check with your insurace agent if you are seriously thinking about it.
2011 Toyota Camry, 2014 Jeep Wrangler, 2017 Honda Civic Coupe, 2019 Toyota Rav4 Hybrid XSE, 2021 Toyota Tundra, 2022 Toyota 4Runner, 2022 Tesla Model 3
Dealer wouldn't budge on the 2009 (via phone) from $23,500. It really wasn't what we wanted (horrible color to boot). Went to look at the 2010 at one of the better dealers that I've bought from before. It was pretty good shape but going to need tires in 5-10k miles and they wouldn't go lower than $21k. Cash deal, no trade. Bought a new LX AWD for $23,800 and it's a MUCH nicer vehicle than the previous CRV. $2,800 difference AND needing tires....not sure what person is going to buy these used :confuse:
If you do take it out for a test drive, take it out on the highway to see if it tracks straight. My '07 Fusion had no vibrations on the highway. Did they run into a Louisville fan?
2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
Looks like the dealer has had this one for 6 months. Wonder if that makes them more likely to deal or more locked in on their price? The pictures look nice. Never hurts to look!
2011 Toyota Camry, 2014 Jeep Wrangler, 2017 Honda Civic Coupe, 2019 Toyota Rav4 Hybrid XSE, 2021 Toyota Tundra, 2022 Toyota 4Runner, 2022 Tesla Model 3
I'm of the opinion that a rebuilt/salvage car is worth about half.
A clean one went through NJ auction recently with 59k miles for $7900. Let's say as high as $8500 for one with 50k and real clean. That gives me a fair target of $10k-$11k retail. Let's go ahead and put that on the high end at $11k. That gives me $5500 for this rebuilt car. No way in hell would I go a penny over $6k.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
If its clean, that's a damned good price. Almost too good. These are fetching the high $21s at the block. Not sure why they are having trouble moving it.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Any thoughts on used prices for an Enclave? My local dealer has 2011 CXL AWD with 15000 miles for 31,000. Looking for a 2009 Enclave CXL AWD with average miles (high 30's low 40's) and can't seem to get a read on what the prices should be. Most are priced the same as the 2011. Would an Acadia be priced the same?
Thanks for the info. The 2011 is at a volume used car dealer. Last month they sold 888 cars.
Off to meet my wife at another dealer. This time going to look at a 2009 G37X with 25000 miles, no nav, white with tan seats. In Pittsburgh, PA. Asking 25,900.
By comparison the volume dealer has a 2011 G37X with 24000 miles for 28000.
We looked very closely at the Enclave last year and there seemed to be a lot of problems/complaints with the '08/'09 vintage I don't scare easy from a reliability standpoint but based on the number of used ones I was seeing it wasn't very reassuring. I'd surely find a newer one if that's the route you're going. Hopefully they've worked out some of the bugs. Or take that Infiniti and run.
Hi everyone, it has been awhile. I wanted to see if I could get out of this lease early without getting to beat up. Could you help me with a realistic trade in value?
Phoenix Az 2010 G37 Journey 4 door with premium/nav 35,000 miles silver exterior with light grey interior Tires 2 new, 2 at 30% left Brakes new rears, front at 40% all maintenance done (15k and 30k at dealer) no prior damage or insurance claims
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Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
We were planning on buying a new car this fall, but now we'll buy it this month. Ugh. We were planning on trading in the van. Didn't expect to get much for it...maybe $1000. It's 110,000 miles with some rust and it leaks oil. My mechanic says just take the van to the dealer and don't say anything. Will this work?
In the past, we'd drive our cars for 10-12 years and then donate to charity, but we no longer itemize deductions and I'd like to get something out of this van.
Advice?
Thanks.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
You may be in luck... that sounds exactly like what a friend of mine went through with her '01/02/03 Mazda van... not sure what year exactly.
The good news is that in her case, they reprogrammed the transmission electronics via a factory service update -- dunno if it was a recall or just a TSB -- but it didn't cost anything and it fixed the problem.
In her case, it showed up much earlier, though, so it may be unrelated. It's worth hitting the Mazda forums and/or taking the van to the Mazda dealer for a look-see.
Good luck,
-Mathias
Keep in mind that those descriptions are from a check list presented by the software. The person entering the data can only tick off what's presented.
I'm looking at a 2006 Nissan Altima S (4 cyl) with 93k miles. Very good condition... only problem are tires are really loud.
The sticker price on car at dealership lot is $12,600. The internet sales price is $10,400. KBB and Edmunds put the trade in at around $6,700, private party at around $8,200 and retail around $10k.
The car has been on the dealership lot 24 days. It's a one owner with limited maintence recorded on Carfax. Original owners have not returned phone call so I can inquire about history.
I understand some dealerships trade out after a vehicle has been on their lot 30 days, so is dealership more likely to take less money the longer a car has sat on the lot?
How would you play this one? I'm thinking startout with an out the door offer at $8,200 (6% sales tax) .. maybe go up to $8,600. :confuse:
May be worthwhile to know what code your MPV threw? Symptoms also sound a bit like ignition coil problem. Either way, that van is worth a HAIL of a lot more than $1,000.
Your numbers may be a bit low, but it can't hurt to try. Personally, I'd be thinking $8k purchase plus the $480 tax, plus the DMV and doc fees for a potential total of about $9k OTD.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
After 2,5 years buying BMW upon receiving green light from you guys, here I am again. Looking at a 2009 A5 3.2 manual transmission quattro with 20K miles. According to listing, it has premium package, s-line package, technology package and also Bang and Olufsen stereo. The guy did not mention nav but as far as I know navigation package is required for technology package. It is from a private party and he is asking for $35K.
What do you guys think?
J
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Where would you peg the following:
'02 BMW 530i, sport pack/auto, xenons, cold weather pack, light blue (silver/blue?) over black leather.
101,000 miles, VERY nice condition in/out, newer Michelin Pilots, maintenance records available.
Couple interesting things about it: It's got the BMW "seat twist." The dealer (not a BMW franchise, but a new car dealer) doesn't want to investigate it.
Here's the other wrinkle: the car has been on their lot for the better part of a YEAR now. I'm assuming it's a combination of the color and the jacked up seats that keep this a lot queen...
There seems to be about a 3k spread between TMV and KBB.
What say the experts? What would be a good low-ball-but-not-insulting offer to the dealer (it should be noted that I've done business with this dealer in the past, and plan to in the future.)
Thanks!
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
IF it has premium, it might do around $7k at the block. If they've had it that long, I might try for $7500 and hold my ground at $8k.
If it doesn't have premium... well, I might knock as much as $800 off for that.
What are they asking for it?
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
One side of the reclining seat sticks while the other side still moves- twisting the backrest. It's almost certainly a cable problem. It's a fairly easy fix. Here's is some additional information.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
I have to say that I don't know what to look for when looking for the premium package...it's pretty well loaded (sunroof, xenons, side and rear sunshades; the rear sunshade has broken the tabs but the motor still functions) but no nav or CD changer.
Very Clean and only 71,000 miles! Light Blue with Tan Leather interior, loaded. Automatic, heated seats, moonroof. Well maintained, service records, clean CARFAX.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Columbus, OH
2009 Honda CRV EX-L, AWD
20k miles, local lease turn-in
Ugly light blue over gray leather.
Assume it's very good condition but haven't checked it out yet.
Dealer won't talk $$ over the phone which is annoying but this is the best one I've found so far.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Honestly, I've never seen a non-premium E39, but I'm assuming it works the same as a 3-series in that regard.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
If its not CPO, I would think $23k should get it done, even for a Honda.
What are they asking?
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
2010 LX AWD, 21k miles. Non-CPO. Asking price is within $2k of a new one....
I think what I think it's worth, what the dealer thinks it's worth, and (most importantly) what Mrs. Lance thinks it's worth are all three different numbers.
Thanks!
EX-L sounds like they are pricing it aggresively. Maybe even get them down to $22,500 and its a good deal.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Price: $ 7,749.00 Miles: 50180 Body: 4D Sedan
Model Year: 2007 Color: blue transmission: Automatic
Make: Ford Engine: 2.3L 4 cylinder
Model: Fusion VIN: 3FAHP07Z97R214729 REBUILT TITLE
Equipment
• 6 Speakers• CD player changer • Radio data system• Air conditioning• Power driver seat• Power windows• Steering wheel mounted audio controls• Speed-sensing steering• ABS brakes• Dual front side impact airbags• Low tire pressure warning• Overhead airbag• Front fog lights• Security system• Bodyside moldings• Power door mirrors• Driver vanity mirror• Illuminated entry• Passenger vanity mirror• Tachometer• Tilt steering wheel• Cloth Front Bucket Seats• Split folding rear seat• Passenger door bin • AM/FM radio• MP3 decoder• SIRIUS Satellite Radio• Rear window defroster• Power steering• Remote keyless entry• Four wheel independent suspension• 4-Wheel Disc Brakes• Dual front impact airbags• Front anti-roll bar• Occupant sensing airbag• Rear anti-roll bar• Panic alarm• Speed control• Bumpers: body-color
• Driver door bin• Front reading lights• • Rear seat center armrest• Telescoping steering wheel• Trip computer• Front Bucket Seats• Front Center Armrest w/Storage
• Speed-Sensitive Wipers
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SE!! FOG Lights!! Alarm, Fog Lights, Power Package, 6 Way Power Seat, Chrome Grill, Sirius, Steering Wheel Audio Controls, and MUCH MORE!! Clean CAR!!
However the car had been wrecked from front end driver side the airbags Never deployed as it Shows in the pics , please read and look to the pics very well before u make your call CAR VALUE IN BLUE BOOK $10,500 .
Did they run into a Louisville fan?
Nahhh, we Louisville fans aren't that hostile. Must have been one of those nearsighted U of K fans. Go Cards!
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?zip=06105&endYear=2- 013&modelCode1=FUSION&showcaseOwnerId=1149982&startYear=2010&makeCode1=FORD&list- ingType=used&engineCode=Hybrid&searchRadius=75&showcaseListingId=307233638&listi- ngId=307170956&Log=0
Looks like the dealer has had this one for 6 months. Wonder if that makes them more likely to deal or more locked in on their price? The pictures look nice. Never hurts to look!
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
A clean one went through NJ auction recently with 59k miles for $7900. Let's say as high as $8500 for one with 50k and real clean. That gives me a fair target of $10k-$11k retail. Let's go ahead and put that on the high end at $11k. That gives me $5500 for this rebuilt car. No way in hell would I go a penny over $6k.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
An '09 with low 40s would be in the $25k zip code. So figure $27-28k retail.
I don't know how the Acadia lines up features-wise. Is an SLT1 the same? If so, its pretty close to the same value. SLT2s are maybe $1k more.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Off to meet my wife at another dealer. This time going to look at a 2009 G37X with 25000 miles, no nav, white with tan seats. In Pittsburgh, PA. Asking 25,900.
By comparison the volume dealer has a 2011 G37X with 24000 miles for 28000.
Phoenix Az
2010 G37 Journey 4 door with premium/nav
35,000 miles
silver exterior with light grey interior
Tires 2 new, 2 at 30% left
Brakes new rears, front at 40%
all maintenance done (15k and 30k at dealer)
no prior damage or insurance claims
Thank you in advance!
Good pizza!