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  • lancerfixerlancerfixer Member Posts: 1,284
    Wow, I sure do wish I knew what you just said...

    27 years old and out of it...(well, I was never really in it...)

    Dave
  • tboner1965tboner1965 Member Posts: 647
    What was his number? 23's is what he means

    TB
    Old, but relatively plugged in.
  • ghuletghulet Member Posts: 2,564
    Has pre-teen (12) rims then, right?
  • humphshumphs Member Posts: 1
    How much do you think I should be able to get from a dealer (Infiniti in this case, if that makes a difference) for my 1998 dark green Volvo V70? It has 74,500 miles, two small scratches about one inch long, a ding about the size of a pea, and several small scuffs on the right rear bumper. All else is in excellent condition. The car has been regularly serviced at a Volvo dealership, including all scheduled maintenance. It has never been in an accident and has no new paint on it. The tires are worn. We have had no problems with this car, except that we needed to replace the rotors last fall because they became etched due to worn-out pads. Thanks.
  • lancerfixerlancerfixer Member Posts: 1,284
    Is your V70 a turbo? Manual or auto? Leather, sunroof, CD, third seat, etc.? I figure I'd ask before the experts sent you to your room. :-)
  • steveo14steveo14 Member Posts: 3
    I have a 1998 XJ8 with 45k Gray/Tan. It has not been in any sort of accident. I went to my local Jaguar dealer....Collier Jaguar...here in Orlando. They offered me $15,000 on trade and they would not come down off of MSRP on a 2002 X-Type 3.0 Sport package Black/Black. Does this deal seem fair to you guys?

    They did say they would give me a loaner (from Enterprise) when I brought it in for service.

    Steve
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    Yeah,

    We'll need a lot more info here!

    Just like what Lancer said....

    Bill
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    Hmm...

    I think you are about, oh..... perhaps something like...

    $9,000 off the mark here. That's a $21-22K car as a trade, and the X-Type? $2K off list is doable.

    Call Tampa or Miami...

    Bill
  • steveo14steveo14 Member Posts: 3
    I have a 1998 XJ8 with 45k Gray/Tan. It has not been in any sort of accident. I went to my local Jaguar dealer....Collier Jaguar...here in Orlando. They offered me $15,000 on trade and they would not come down off of MSRP on a 2002 X-Type 3.0 Sport package Black/Black. Does this deal seem fair to you guys?

    They did say they would give me a loaner (from Enterprise) when I brought it in for service.

    Steve
  • lsong56lsong56 Member Posts: 1
    I may have a possible deal to purchase a 1999 Ford Windstar for 16,900 - with 30,000 miles on it. It is an SE but has power side doors, bucket seats and CD/Tape, a few other extra features.
    I have an opportunity to finance it for 72 months, so my payments will be low - what do you think the value of that car will be at the end of the 6 years? If I put between 10 & 12,000 miles a year on it. I guess what I really need to know is can I trade it in for a meaningful deal? And do these cars last over 100,000 miles? Thanks
  • ghuletghulet Member Posts: 2,564
    I'll prep you for Bill and/or Terry's answer. You don't want to finance a three year-old anything for six years, especially not a Windstar. They're fairly famous for transmission failures, for one thing (a friend with 35k miles on a 00 is on its THIRD transmission), and bad resale for another. Here's the recipe to avoid:

    Possible big non-warranted repairs
    + Still making payments on said vehicle
    + Bad resale, when vehicle will be ~ten years old and have ~100k miles
    ___________________________________________________________________
    Big-Time Poverty maker

    If you can't afford the payments on a 99 Windstar ($16,900 is too much for a 99 anyway), get something older, cheaper or smaller (don't ask me what, though).

    Do you have a trade? Any $ for down?
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    Thanks Gulet, you get a "Get out of room free" card.

    OK... Rule #1: Do NOT Finance a car for six freaking years! You should be sent to your room on that alone! Tsk tsk... burial time!

    Now, the Windstar... First, $15K is the ceiling of what you should be paying. At $16,999 you are hovering above the roof. It's too much for it. You can do better.

    Also, I would not recommend a Windstar. Like Robert Goulet (lol) said up there, they are about as reliable as a Kia. Pass. Besides, SE's use that nasty, evil, head-gasket blowing 3.8 engine.

    Resale? Wholesale on a clean '95 with, say, 120K miles (Assume ya drive 15K/year) is $2K on a great day.

    Now, ya got some cash to spend... Here's what I WOULD buy. I'd look for a 1999 Sienna CE 5-Door with about 40K miles on it. Much nicer Van, MUCH MUCH MUCH more reliable (Well, unless you NEVER change the oil). They don't break, they're safe and nice to drive. $16K is plenty to buy one like that.

    Do you NEED a Minivan? Maybe a nice 98 Volvo V70 wagon for $15-16K would fit the bill?

    You got options...

    As far as financing, do this. How's your credit? Go to www.myfico.com and check your beacon score. If you're in the 700s (720ish up) and have no previous deliquencies and previous car credit, go to www.peoplefirst.com and get them for 5.5% or whatever. Dont go past 60 months.

    Hope this helps!

    Bill
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    Oops.. ya missed my earlier post...

    You may very well win the "Worst deal of the month" and it's only the 5th...

    XJ8 is worth 21-22K as a trade if it's nice, X-Type? $2K off list. Black/Black is the resale kiss of death in FL. Get a light color interior at least!

    Bill
  • karz10karz10 Member Posts: 106
    Yeah, Jordan's are 23" rims, whip is a ride/car, etc., don't feel bad Dave, everyone is out of it to some degree, even if you're in it, unless you live where it's at and are in it day to day, you can't keep up anyway, it changes by the minute, and it doesn't hurt to be young, I'm happy @ 30, wish I could stay here awhile longer...

    Hey you guys didn't forget about my SUVs did ya?? lol

    Karz
  • auburn311auburn311 Member Posts: 9
    I have a '99 Ford Explorer Eddie Bauer 2WD with 73,000 miles. It has the SOHC V-6. It is medium wedgewwood blue. There are a few dings on the side from car doors. Otherwise the paint is in good shape. The windshield has a small crack from a rock. It was patched and hasn't spread since it happened 2 years ago. Good rubber. The floor mats are brand new. It has the premium sound. The display on the radio is out, but the radio works fine.(I don't think it's fried, maybe shorted because it will come on sometimes). I need to see if it can be fixed, but is it worth it? The car is in good shape all around except for what I mentioned. I will be trading it in for a 2002 Explorer in Atlanta (30080). It also has the optional trailer tow package. What's a good trade in value? Should I think about retail since I'm in such a large market? Thanks a million. - John
  • kedda99kedda99 Member Posts: 1
    All,

    I am seeking advice for the value of a trade in for a 2001 BMW 325xi with all wheel drive, premium package, heated seats, Harmon Kardon sound, gray exterior / black interior, moon roof with 25000 miles.

    Ultimately, I would like to trade it in for a Honda Accord Coupe.

    Also, are dealers willing to take a trade-in where the value of the trade-in is higher than the value of the car being purchase ?

    Thank you,

    I welcome any and all advice
  • auburn311auburn311 Member Posts: 9
    I have a question about Ford's X-Plan pricing (Partner Recognition Program; I work for Lockheed). I can get a 2002 Limited Explorer at a set X-plan price of $32,452. It has a MSRP of $35,755. The X-plan price is around or below the invoice price of the vehicle and right in line with the TMV price. To me it sounds like a good deal especially since I don't have to haggle at all to get that price. My question is, is this a good price or should I try to get a better one not taking advantage of the X-Plan price? The x-plan price as far as I know is on the dealer invoice and not negociable. Also, I would still be eligible for the $2500 factory rebate bringing the price to $29,952. I would be trading in the '99 Explorer I listed in post #8320 and also am wondering a good trade in value for that. I would greatly appreciate anyone and everyone's input.
    John
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,491
    OK guys, I've got one for you. The car is in the Tri-State area (NY,NJ,CT). My friend bought the V6 Mustang because he wanted a convertible and couldn't swing the insurance on the GT (V8). All of the modifications he did to the car were to make it look as close to a GT as possible. They are tasteful (no boy racer stuff). The car is in perfect condition. My friend who owns it walks from his apt. to the train station every day. I'd like to know what the trade in & private sale prices are. Thank-you!

    2000 3.8 Liter V6 Mustang Convertible

      - Sport Package

      - 20,500 Miles

      - Silver Exterior

      - Dark Charcol Leather Interior



      - Dual Air Bags

      - Air Conditioning

      - Mach 460 Stereo Package

      - Power Windows & Locks

      - Rear Window Defroster

      - Leather Bucket Seats

      - Power Driver Seat

      - SecuriLock Anti-Theft System

      - Power Decklid Release

      - Cruise Control



      - 3.8L V6

      - Manual Transmission



      - Dual Power Mirrors

      - Power Convertible Top

      - Remote Keyless Entry

      - Rear Spoiler



      - 4-Wheel Disc Brakes

      - 16" Alloy Bright Wheels

      - Traction Control

    Add ons:

    - GT fog lights with Origanal GT Switch

    - GT Hood Scoop

    - GT Dual Exhaust

    - GT Rear Facia (Bumper)

    - H-pipe for Exhaust Conversion

    - Hood Strip

    - Lowering Springs (1" drop)

    - Steeda Short Throw Shifter

    - Car Cover

    - Bullitt Pedals

    - Bullitt Shifter Trim Ring

    - Leather Shift Knob

    - 35th Anniversary Guage Cluster (Silver to match car)

    - Ford Rubber Floor mats

    - K&N Air Filter

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,491
    for the long post, I did a cut and paste from an email:)

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD

  • longrange2longrange2 Member Posts: 2
    What would be a fair price for a 1999 Subaru Outback wagon, 5 speed, dark blue, gray interior with CD player. Rest of options standard for the Outback, power windows, locks, cruise etc. 40,000 miles, clean condition. I am looking to buy one of these here in Colorado. What would a dealer likely pay for one of these at auction? What would a fair retail price be? Thanks, Ken
  • h109h109 Member Posts: 36
    Would you please let me know what I can expect for my 2000 Mazda Protege LX with the usual options(A/C, CD, Power, Keyless) & Fog lamps, with 25k miles and 17 months MFR warranty left. Interior clean but a couple of small dents on the doors. With normal maintenance, I've had no mechanical problems so far.

    I am in Central New Jersey and looking for a trade-in for either a Mazda MPV or Honda CR-V. I would also like to know if I would get a similar value from both New and Used car dealers.

    Thank you kindly,
    -Hari
  • ghuletghulet Member Posts: 2,564
    Color and transmission type? Does it have alloys or moonroof?
  • h109h109 Member Posts: 36
    Sorry to have missed that earlier.

    Sand mica exterior with biege interior.
    Auto trans.
    neither moonroof nor alloys :-(

    -Hari
  • cstowecstowe Member Posts: 101
    I am looking at a 1999 Saab 9-5 se v6 turbo, loaded, auto, 41K miles, silver, black leather, ventilated front seats, heated front and rear seats. I have set up a time to drive it on friday here in New Orleans. The dealer has it listed for 19,999 and will Saab Certify it for something like $599 more. How does this sound? What do you think I should offer? This would be my first Saab, what about reliability, maintenance costs, etc. Comments welcome from all!
  • steveo14steveo14 Member Posts: 3
    Black/Black the kiss of death in Florida? How can this be true? Collier told me black is a premium color and in fact they showed me a very rare black/black XK8 coupe.
  • analogkid1analogkid1 Member Posts: 10
    I have a 1993 Buick Park Ave Ultra, 150K miles,good condition (a little weathered, nothing too bad). Power everything. Just put in new shocks, recharged AC and had brakes done about 5 mos. ago. I'm buying a new Infiniti G35, Leather, premium, winter & wood packages, Xenon Headlights, sunroof. Offer from dealership is $32,374. Sound Fair for new car? What is fair trade in for Buick (have not yet discussed with dealer. Any feedback welcomed.
  • karz10karz10 Member Posts: 106
    anyone answered cdsakdol's question about his '99 navigator, since that is one of the vehicles I was looking at maybe you can kill two birds w/ one stone....

    My example, Caddy dealer has a
    '99 Navigator
    4x4
    45k mi.
    White/Tan Lthr
    CD Changer
    decent rubber
    Seems clean to me and drives very well

    Asking price after test drive: $28k, told him I needed to ck some numbers, it was time for them to close, he tossed me the keys and said take it home, come back and see me in the morning, I told him about my buying process up front, that I would determine the wholesale and retail value of the car before making an offer, I knew what a 2000 should go for, but wanted to ck w/ some people before I made an offer, but off the top of my head $28 sounded high, but if he wanted me to take it home I would, he said yes, but he didn't think they'd come off the price much. I wanted the oppty to really drive one and figured if he knew my process and still wanted me to take it, I was being fair about it, and it might work out. I thank the experts for their prompt reply in advance :)

    Here's another copy of cd's post..

    #8294 of 8331 80K miles Lincoln Nav. by cdsakdol Aug 03, 2002 (05:10 pm)
    I'm looking at a very clean 1999 Lincoln Nav. It has 80K miles on it which is mostly highway miles. It comes with 3 TV's, Playstation II, upgraded wood trim inside, computer chip for extra power, dual exhaust, nice 20" rims and more. Where would you place the value for purchase? If maintained good, how many miles can I expect out of this engine?
  • karz10karz10 Member Posts: 106
    I did find two posts about a '99 Nav I forgot about coz those deals didn't work out.

    Bill responded about a 27k mi 2wd 99 Nav w/ 23" rims(models worth about $3-5k new), 3 tvs, 3 woofer sound system etc., he labled it at around $27.5, as he said hard to label 'extra mods' and such, and this one was very low mi.

    Then Terry also posted about another 99 Nav, but the one he mentioned was more standard, and he references a 4wd, but only gives I think a wholesale/auction/trade-in kind of price... here is a reduced version of that post
    ----------------------------------------------
    #8088 of 8119 Karz .. by rroyce10 Jul 19, 2002 (06:35 am)
    ........But, I can tell what a clean 99 with let's say, 30/35k, chromes, slider, 4WD might be worth .. might have $22/$23 in it, plus the stuff. .......
    -----------------------------------------------

    I still wouldn't mind a specific peg on the above referenced '99 Nav a post back, but wanted to let you know I am keeping the info you share, trying to minimize the bother to you...thanks

    Karz
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ** black is a premium color and in fact they showed me a very rare black/black XK8 coupe. ""

    Did they show the Mary Kay pink one .. that's a big seller too .. l.o.l..

    Black is a great color - "up North". That Jag in S.Fran, Denver, Chi-town, Lexington, Philly, NYC, etc. will pull an extra $500/$1,000+ .. drop it in Atlanta, Houston, N.Orleans and "Bam" it's bad news, drop it in Miami, Tampa, Orlando, etc, and it drops like a Bad Habit .. the value drops by $1,0/$2,000+ depending on the vehicle and the time of the year -- I'm sure that the Dealer would love to loose that puppy.!

    Rare, that's one word for it .l.o.l. -- Cuz, like Bill said .. it's the "kiss of death" down South ...

    I hope this helps ...

    Terry.
  • karz10karz10 Member Posts: 106
    BTW ran a car-fax on my loaner/test drive 99 white 4x4 Nav, clean title, registered commercial in 6-99, did about 16/12/18k mi per year respectively, last inspection was two months and shows up for sale about a month ago

    I wonder w/ a navigator, maybe someone is taking advantage of the weight tax laws, and therefore registered commercial, or could this be a bad thing?

    Or is it likely they have less invested in this vehicle if it was a business person who traded in on new Escalade??

    Gotta go back there in a few hours, any info is appreciated. I don't know how to figure out what type of organization registered it.

    Karz
  • auburn311auburn311 Member Posts: 9
    I have a question about Ford's X-Plan pricing (Partner Recognition Program; I work for Lockheed). I can get a 2002 Limited Explorer at a set X-plan price of $32,452. It has a MSRP of $35,755. The X-plan price is around or below the invoice price of the vehicle and right in line with the TMV price. To me it sounds like a good deal especially since I don't have to haggle at all to get that price. My question is, is this a good price or should I try to get a better one not taking advantage of the X-Plan price? The x-plan price as far as I know is on the dealer invoice and not negociable. Also, I would still be eligible for the $2500 factory rebate bringing the price to $29,952. I would be trading in the '99 Explorer I listed in post #8320 and also am wondering a good trade in value for that. I would greatly appreciate anyone and everyone's input.
    John
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    .... Good Morning to you ..!

    I have been out playing the last couple of days .. so I mighta' missed some of your posts.

    I wouldn't worry much about commercial stuff, it doesn't mean much -- it can be lease's structured. via Corp's, it can be lease's via private owners .. back to themselves, it can be vehicles bought by "ABC Lease Co." then leased to their own customer, etc. etc. I buys lot's of em', if it's clean and nice, don't give it a second thought.

    Did I read something about Escalades and Tahoe's ..?

    Terry :-)
  • karz10karz10 Member Posts: 106
    I posted a message awhile back inquiring about 99-00 escalades and commenting on the relative platform between those and their cousin the tahoe

    but my main concern is pegging a value for this nav i'm driving overnight about to return or make and offer on

    details a couple posts back 99 4x4 white 45k mi these come pretty loaded so only true options i see is the changer it has rear air and climate control, but think this is standard, IOW no slider/tv etc

    also provided info on condition and dlr asking price etc, and what you pegged general numbers for random 99 w/ less mi at in a previous post, but wanted you to peg this one if possible

    karz
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ..... Ok, let's see here .. it's a 99, 4WD, it's got 45k, it has all the toy's ..? dual air, chromes, slider .. right ..?

    Pretty nice vehicle all the way around .. right ..?

    I can't see the dealer having much more than $24 in it unless he fell down and hit his head .. to me, $23 is the figure .. and $25 takes it home on the push ..

    Check the Vin# through the dealer network at Lincoln or a Ford dealer, that will give any service history .. and previous owner.

    Terry.
  • karz10karz10 Member Posts: 106
    No slider, but it is clean I'm pretty meticulous and I can't find anything wrong with it. I think I'd buy it for $25, I was running some scenarios where if I purchased it for $25 I had a good feeling about it. Thanks for the feedback.

    Good idea on the service, I'll ck that angle out. I'm learning, slowly but surely.

    karz
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ..... I don't have to tell Ya, the miles are not your friend here.

    If the air will blow you out, the tires are deep, it looks and runs like a 98 and it needs -0- .. then you are in and around that $2ish figure on a trade ...

    Sounds like one heck of a deal on the "G" ..!

    Terry.
  • auburn311auburn311 Member Posts: 9
    Terry, could you give me some input on post #8336?
    I'm thinking about buying in the next couple of weeks. Also, I will be making up the difference after trade in with cash. Is there anything I should be careful of or any advice on that matter?
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ..... Aaaaah yes, The "friends and family" program ... it's a good deal, you are right at invoice and you are getting the rebate also ..

    So unless you want to make yourself pyschotic, and run from dealer to dealer, have anxiety attacks, stay up nights with the "cold sweats" and have bowel problems .. I would take it... l.o.l...

    No muss, No fuss ..

    Terry.
  • auburn311auburn311 Member Posts: 9
    *So unless you want to make yourself pyschotic* - l.o.l. Tell me about it. It's worth it just what you save in therapy bills alone. hehe. Thanks for the input. Could you also give me trade in value on the '99 EB Explorer I listed? Thanks.
    John
  • cstowecstowe Member Posts: 101
    Any thoughts on my Saab post? Please help.

    Also, trying to decide to either trade in my Jeep or sell it on my own.

    Black/Grey Int. 1991 Jeep Wrangler 4x4 STD 61K miles, orig owner, orig alloy wheels (5), tilt steering wheel, 180 HP 4.0 HO 6 cyl., am/fm, recl, fron seats, rear seat, 5-sp, no air (it is a REAL jeep), 5 new Goodyear Wrangler GS-A tires (OEM size), new clutch, overall nice shape, runns like a top

    I am selling it becasue I am tired of no a/c and getting my kidneys shaken out on these New Orleans streets...and I am not 20 yrs. old anymore.

    What do you think I could get from dealer vs. on my own?
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    99 with 76K? Yowza!

    Yes, this will get whipped a bit... Miles are way high I am afraid... Crack in windsheild, bad radio...jeez...

    This is, I am afraid, a $7,500-8K truck..

    X-Plan? Take the deal. No hassle, upfront, cheap.

    Bill
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    Hmmm..

    25K is pretty steep. Against a Honda? Uhh...why??

    This is a solid $25,500 car. Maybe $26K... Miles hurt it a bit, but it's still good merchandise.

    I bet ya could pop it in the paper for $29,900 and see $29K tho! (Although you do get a tax credit...)

    Bill
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    I think $13,500 as a trade... But I bet ya get $16K retail easily..

    Bill
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    Hmmm..

    Denver is certainly the place to sell them! (I would be looking on eBay for one in Florida or Texas...)

    Up there they are strong. Every bit of $14K and then some across the block if it is mint.

    So I am sure they are asking $17,995 for them. I'd say they got $15Kish in them soaking wet, and $16,500-17,000 should buy you a super nice one, but $16,500 should be your target.. that oughta get it done.

    Bill
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    Well,

    This car is worth what it is worth.. You may find an independent who can retail the car to be a tiny bit more agressive than a franchise guy, but it is worth what it is worth.

    In this case, low $7Ks...

    Hope this helps!

    Bill
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    Hey,

    I am in Orlando too! :)

    That car is worth a lot less with Black/Black color combo here. It';s just too hot! You uhh.. you been outside today yet? :)

    Bill
  • lancerfixerlancerfixer Member Posts: 1,284
    "99 with 76K? Yowza!"

    That's not bad...recently I've been heaping much grief on a buddy of mine with a (leased!) '99 Passat with 96k...he is so going to get bent over the desk when his lease is up in December...
  • auburn311auburn311 Member Posts: 9
    Actually I said 73,000; but that's not that big of a difference. As for the windshield, I plan on getting that replaced. The radio problem is apparently documented by Ford as a problem and might can be easily fixed...we'll see. So with that said do you still think $8K? Edmund's lists it as at the least a $10K trade-in car even with the heavy milage. I value your advice and don't want to be unrealistic with the dealer.
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    Dave,

    Yeah he's gonna get bent over without grease... but.. WHO drove the car 33K a year? Hmm? :)

    Auburn: The thing is, a lot of those calculators cant really adjust for really high miles. Go re-do your car, now with 325K miles and see what happens...

    I mean, you could see $8,5000, but that's a bit of a stretch. Car will do mid 8s to maybe $9K across the block I think, (It is Wedgewood...) but then they gotta get it cleaned, dragged out there..etc.

    I'd sign off on it at $8K, $8,200 if you started hollering...

    Sorry man...

    Bill
  • lancerfixerlancerfixer Member Posts: 1,284
    "WHO drove the car 33K a year? Hmm? :)"

    Hence the grief I give him... :-)
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