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I am also AF, have given my deposit 1wk ago. In Chicago, it is a great deal. Downtown dealership is selling them for 10K over MSRP. All 4 other area dealers at MSRP w/a 1-1 1/2 yr wait. I'm told selling for over 20K in NY. Ebay has slots alone (just the right to purchase) to purchase them b/w starting bids of 2500-20000. I am buying thru Superior Motors MSP. I assume it is them or Pentagon car sales U R dealing with. I am getting Com Acc, HUD and Sat Radio. The process has been great. Delivery in JAN. Let me know your thoughts.
The story is compelling and the video is excellent. I had the good fortune to see the video lab in full swing producing this when I was in Santa Monica a few weeks ago.
Check it out and enjoy!
AWAX
The price SM quotes is same as PCS, since it is thru the Mil. Sales Prog, as offered by BMW. I have spoken to both. It just happened that SM was closer to Qatar (SM is in Bahrain). Both groups are excellent and I have maintained contact w/PCS, even though purch. thru SM. Price as follows:
Base 73,000
delivery (dealer markup) 2,150
GG 3,000
Comf. Acc. 1,000
HUD 1,000
Sat Radio 595
Total 80,745
I did not opt for:
full lthr 3,500
Multi seats 1,900
Vent seats 800
Ski/ fold down seats 475
Rear a/bag 385 (bad for children)
Rear heat 350
Power shade 575
I assume your quote is same?
In IL, military R not exempt, so I will have to pay Registration/sales/use tax. For Chicago residents, it is 9%. Ouch!
The prices match exactly. My concern on the GG tax is that it will surprise me when I want to register the car.
Oklahoma excise tax is 3.75% of the actual purchase price paid when registering the car within on month of taking delivery. I am looking at a $3000 hit for that.
I want to ensure that I don't get hit with the GG tax at that time.
I allready recieved a contact name and # for BMW NA, but was advised they will have no info until just prior to delivery in the states. I did however, contact BMW NA just prior to signing to confirm that SM and PCS R legit. They are and was told they deal w/them all the time.
Let me know if you have some other info about process
I'm also using Superior Motors Military Sales -- who did you speak to to verify they were a legitimate dealer?
Thanks.
Recieved this contact from David Baker @ PCS:
Bettina.BK.Konitz@partner.bmw.de
Also contacted BMW, Germany via email and they also confirmed all. I am working w/Angela & Derek @ SM, both have been great. Derek even took the time to call me back in the states and go thru some details. Good luck!
1. Any major areas of concern at around 80K miles? I'm going to have a pre-purchase check, and I'd like to ask them to focus on possible trouble areas. The car had a $1200 brake job in the last year.
2. The owner has some aftermarket wheels on it, and I would want to return to stock. The dealer says they are $500 / wheel, so I've got a local wheel shop looking for some. Are the stock wheels staggered - meaning wider in the back? Is the recommended tire size for stock 255 / 40 / 18? Any recommendations for places to look for a set in good condition?
3. How is the handling? I am going to drive it tomorrow night, but this is the one concern I have with Jags. I recently had a 2001 Audi S4, and the handling was amazing. I'm certain the jag will be different, and likely less responsive, but how does it compare to other sport sedans?
Thanks for indulging my questions.
-Grady
On your second question, you might try calling the Tire Rack. They would likely know exactly what the OEM wheel and tire sizes were for your car, and may even have some suggestions.
On your last question regarding handling - the XJR would be the least "super" of the super sedans in this forum. An architect that does work for me has one that he fondly refers to as his "BB" (i.e. British Buick). He got it for his wife at a bargain basement price, but he claims his own 2004 E500 Sport is a much better handling car, at least on the winding roads he drives on his daily commute.
I have not driven an XJ or XJR personally, but ridden in one on several occassions and it does seem to be oriented more towards luxury first, power second and handling a distant third. Include some nice winding roads in your test drive.
However, my XJR is an absolute nightmare. It has been in the shop for an average of one visit per month since I leased it 26 months ago. Everything that can go wrong, has gone wrong! I have had problems with electronics, such as locks, adaptive cruise, air bag warning lights, and error messages. The interior trim has peeled off of the console and dash surround on three occasions. But, it gets worse: The steering, rear end and suspension have been creaking and noisy from the start. They have replaced the rack and pinion, the differential, and today the car is in the shop awaiting a drive shaft and subframe.
The car has never been hit, and is well maintained. but it is a disaster. I hate this thing. Mine may be the lone ultimate lemon, but it is hard for me to recommend one of these vehicles to anybody based on my experience. After 27 months of ownership, I can say that this is the biggest piece of junk I have ever owned.
I have been reasonable with Jaguar. I am trying to get them to replace the car or take me out of my lease..I told them I would even start over with a new lease, if they would support the buy out residual at 27 months, but they will not. Meanwhile the dealer is offering me $5000 behind blue book to take me out of this one. That shows how bad these XJR's depreciate! No confidence shown by the selling dealer or Jaguar!
I told them I just want to get out of this one...And, I told them I would give them a second chance by starting over with an '06 XJR, but they are not interested in taking any responsibility. I was a fool for not going after them earlier under the California Lemon Law, but now I am too far into the lease to get easy relief.
As for those of you that think these are good cars and have not experienced any problems...I would keep my fingers crossed.
They drive nicely, but they are nightmares in the long run.
If the new car has any issues I will be vigilent and use the lemon law. If it just drives nicely and acts like a good XJR should, I will be a happy camper.
By the way, my '04 was built in early '03 so it was one of the early incarnations of the new XJ, so I am hoping that the '05 will be more evolved in build quality. We shall see. huh?
I should mention that I test drove a new BMW 750, an Audi A-8 and a Mercedes CLS 500 during the past week before agreeing to go back to another XJR. The fact is that IMO the XJR feels lighter, more responsive and fun than any of the others. The horsepower to weight ratio is hard to beat with the XJR, and the other cars with normal engines price out at about the same price as the Supercharged XJR. However, the Audi build quality and interior was hard to resist.
My story epitomizes why it makes sense to avoid the first year of production on an all-new car. Stay tuned.
I own:
996 Carrera
Dodge viper pick-up
Love them all but the M5 rules the garage
thank priyesh
And I think the guy with the $10,000 E500 also has $12 million locked up in a bank in Nigeria and just needs you to help him get it expatriated.
Car ad: http://regina.kijiji.ca/c-ViewAd-W0QQAdIdZ2836906
Blue Stars: http://bluestars-shipping.com/index.htm
The website looks phony to me. And this guy's email says his "sister is in hospital and she is very seek"
Thanks
You are right to be extremely suspicious and cautious.
Don't even bother with the BBB. This is just two grad students in Penang having some fun with the rich Americans.
here's another example...I was asking details about an BMW XI and this is the response...avoid
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Hello,
I have to tell you in the first place that my car is like new, has 31,500 KM in perfect working condition, no scratches, no dents, never been abused, and it has clear title, manuals, the original documentation included, which will be delivered along with the car.
The car is registered in Canada. The car is safe and sound back to Canada at the shipping company
Right now I have some personal problems with my son`s health and I am in Ireland Dublin for a surgery on his heart. (I`m here because is the cheapest surgery I coud find)
If you want to buy it, I can ship you the car and I will pay for shipping, insurance and all the fees deducted from this sale, you will have 5 days testing period.
For more pictures with my car please visit this link
http://www.myonlineimages.com/public.aspx?memberid=19158
One more thing I'm a very serious and honest person that has some problems right now. I will appreciate if you were serious about this.
Everyone goes thru bad times in life, and I am no exception.
I need to do some extreme things in my life too in order to stay afloat.
Of course please tell me if you want to buy this car and if you have the money.
In order to start this deal, I will need:
1. Your full name and home address
2. Shipping address (street address, city, state, zip)
3. e-mail address
4. phone number
The car will be shiped by Blue Stars Shipping company.
If the car isn't like advertised, you can say that you don't buy it, and the car will be shipped back to me at my own expense and you will be completely refund. The agent from the shipping company will assist you in the registration process.
Please reply with the requested info and if you are really interested please let` move fast because time is a precious thing for me right now,
Thanks
Robert Tyler
Thanks,
Chintan Talati
Corporate Communications
Edmunds.com
Even though the BMW M5 also has a V10 (and even though it produces 507 horsepower), it doesn't sound quite this exciting."
That's astonishing- especially considering the S6 is more in-between the super sedan and sports sedan classes.
It also shows what a smart move it was for Audi to buy Lamborghini, which is now quite profitable.
That quote is from a Canadian website: http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_T- ype1&c=Article&cid=1144360211321&call_pageid=968867497088&col=969048871196
Can't wait for the RS6!
EMAIL 1
First of all I want to tell you that the car is still available and the price of $6,200 includes all the shipping costs and insurance, so you won't have to pay any extra charges. The car looks like new, it has never been scratched or wrecked. It will come with a clear title, bill of sale signed by me as well and all the papers (including the original manuals and keys) that you will need to register it under your name. I'm selling it because I've just moved to Dublin, Ireland and I can't drive it here because has left hand drive, and all the cars here have right hand drive so for me this car is useless. I hope that you will understand my situation. E-mail me back if you are interested. Keep me posted.
Thank You !
EMAIL 2
The car is located in Ireland, if you are interested we will use a shipping company ( www.cargoexpressinc.co.uk ) which also manages the payment. Here's how it works: I will take the car at the shipping company, they will e-mail you the transport information so you can see that the vehicle is shipped. After you receive this info, you will have to make a deposit to one of their agents so I can be sure that you are serious about buying and I am not shipping the car for nothing. The agent will keep the money in a trust fund until you receive the car and are sattisfied with it. You will have 7 days to inspect and test drive it upon arrival with no obligation to buy. If the car is not exactly as described, you can send it back at my expense, and get a full refund of your deposit. Please provide me your full name and shipping address in order to have the deal started. Thank you
EMAIL 3
Sure, here's the VIN jt2ja82j5r0018019.The current mileage is 64600.My car i a 1994 Toyota Supra Turbo. You have to make an up front payment of $2000, the remaining balance ( $4500 ) will be paid after you will receive, inspect and test-drive it. I will need your full name and shipping address in order to have the deal started. Thank you
Thanks,
Jeannine Fallon
Corporate Communications
Edmunds.com
Thank you so much for your post. :sick:
M
Does anyone know how for how long this will last? If the so called more aggressive logo will go away with these models, then I may go for a used 4.2 (circle version) and then buy a new one in a few years from now if it looks different. But if not ... can they change at least the wheel airbag with an older one, would that one fit?
Also, I would like some of your opinions too. (I now the new trapezoidal logo sort of 'grew on' many of the late model owners). I believe that changing a logo every few years weakens the impact and value of that logo - bimmer and MB are not doing this...
Eventually this signature design element will be refined and altered based on modernizing their design, but the rings will not change. Sort of like the Mercedes grill has altered over the years from a huge chrome piece to a more subtle opening on newer models.
I doubt it will go away, but I really think it will be used to give different models a slightly different feel based upon noticeable differences. Right know the grill looks basically the same on all their models (A3, A4, A6, A8).
M