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I just had the car serviced for the 60k interval but the efficiency has not imrpoved. I keep the tires inflated to the reco level and only use gas from BP.
The dealer said they can run a test but it would cost $200+ and take several days. They also said sometime the gas station changes their supply to an inferior quality.
Has anyone else had a similar experience or knows what I can do?
Thanks
does the van perform normally? Is it sluggish, jerking, smoking, etc?
Did you run the tank dry recently (gunked injectors) ?
I'm assuming you're driving the same as before...i.e. you haven't started idling for an hour to pick up kids...or sitting idling waiting for bank/fast food/medication -- or anything else that is a convenience.
Inferior gas? not sure a station would want to switch to that...
Not being a mechanic...I'd initially think it's filters (air)...I'd start checking the cheapest thing first...
Sounds odd for an 06...
It's not *that* cold there, is it? That could certainly explain a drop of 2-3 mpg or so, especially with short trips.
My trip computer shows the average mileage drops for the first 3-4 miles or so of each trip I take now (it's been sub-freezing in the AM lately). Then it'll go back up once the engine is warm.
So short trips could kill mileage, if the engine never reaches operating temps.
Other questions - do you still see the ECO light come on when you coast to a stop, if you have VCM?
I'm running my own test using another brand of gas and depending upon what happens I may go back to the dealer for a full diagnostics. I found some info on www.fueleconomy.gov that says it could be some things not normally checked by a standard service.
23-25 MPG rush hour stopo n go freeway
20 MPG city stop n go
has only 49K miles because mom just didn't like it and only used it when her other car was in the shop. What sort of mileage after 90K?
Mileage was usually around 24mpg or so. It was mostly highway but higher speeds than usual due to the 70 mph speed limits in Florida (I did 75 or so, but my dad was goin' 90 :surprise: ).
I was driving about 65 mph behind a semi truck. The truck broke the wind for me and I was able to average 33mpg.
Normally I drive about 69 to 73mph and average around 27, maybe 28mpg.
I always use cruise control because it saves the most on gas.
I use 89 and sometimes 91 Fuel, also it helps to have an awesome air filter, so I got a K&N Air Filter ($45), not bad since it cost $25 for a standard air filter, plus they are not reusable. We need to save money everywhere, so investing into a $45 filter which is reusable, washable, and guaranteed for 1 million miles, you really cannot go wrong. Pays for itself after 3 tanks of gas at least. :lemon: :shades:
Just be careful that you don't chip a windshield from debris they may kick up - that would cancel any savings you may accumulate.
I averaged 22 MPG overall with 4 people, A/C on, and some extra gear and about 75 - 80 MPG except uphill in 4th which I averaged 65 - 70 MPH. I think that is pretty good considering the terrain. I usually get about 25 - 27 on flat terrain with a/c at 65 MPG
Not as good MPG as others out there but much better power, comfort, and features especially to the Caravan.
I really liked the fluorescent gauges on the Entourage Limited but I don't think the Sedona got those, right? Prices were a lot higher for Limiteds when I shopped in 07, though.
I'm happy with my choice, though love may be a strong word for a minivan. I prefer small cars, that's why I daily-drive a Miata. :shades:
Just jerking your chain, your reward was good mileage, so kudos.
to Stuart FL (about 500 miles roundtrip) I got 22.88 MPG with regular gas and that
was with the A/C on!
on the Interstate when driving from West Palm Beach to Charleston SC.
on Regular Gas. We will not go to a small car to get 30 MPG. It's just not
enough of a savings for the safety and comfort that we would give up.
Why drive an Escalade if you want safety. Wouldn't something with a better rollover history be more appropriate?
I'm sure the extra weight and the fact that we cranked the dual A/C to keep a car full of kids happy didn't help.
With just the 4 of us we get at least 27 on trips, at times 30.
Brazil gets most of its models from Europe, though I haven't seen the Galaxy there. They have a Ford EcoSport that is a whole lot smaller than the Escape, though.
My windstar, I'm lucky to get 16 mpg.
Give me a diesel any day!!
We spent a week in Ocean City, and my son was in camp, 140 blocks away. With a traffic light every 3 blocks, the stopping was brutal, I feel like my brake pads must need to be changed. Probably the worst city traffic I've ever driven in, and my Sienna returned 20.4mpg.
Filled it up on the way home, though, and drove speed limits since the MDX following us didn't seem to keep up if we sped. Any how, did that with light traffic on the way home and average a phenomenal 31.3mpg!
:shades:
Several legs of the trip included extensive mountain driving during which the fuel economy interestingly didn't suffer much. In fact the worst tank was on the drive west from St Louis to Tulsa. We must have had strong head winds during that stretch. We generally kept the speed on the freeway stretches at the speed limit of 70 or 75 mph in the western plains.
I am pleased with the mileage, given the size of this vehicle. The 3.3 V-6 had all it could handle in the mountain driving, and if I drove in those conditions on a regular basis, would consider a larger engine version, but in our normal fairly flat daily driving, it is just fine. No vehicle problems during the trip whatsoever. It is only now at 31K on the odometer.
Going there I had to haul paver base, 30 bags the first time (~50 lbs each), 25 the 2nd trip. Still managed ~26mpg.
Coming back we had no load and my wife drove - she averaged 28.5 mpg.
Still loving this engine.
I have a 2005 Dodge GC with the 3.8. We carried four people plus luggage. I averaged about 23mpg on the trip. Mountains didn't seem to bother the 3.8 one bit. Although I turned my cruise off when climbing them and coming down. I think it helped my mileage doing that.
I have gotten as high as 28.41 mpg - to 19.8mpg. I checked it with a calculator and over head computer. They were pretty close to each other.
I did get stuck several times in road construction where I had to sit and idle. Happy with what I got with the load I had on.
22.0 mpg out of my Sienna, probably for several reasons:
* bitter cold here lately
* no long trips
* mostly around town driving
That's close to my worst tank ever.
This is awful, I feel violated!!
I can get 26mpg on the highway (if i stay within the speed limits)...if you idle all day...say picking up children then you're getting 0 mpg.
Of course something could be wrong with it...but if you sit there like we do then you're not going to get good mpg...in anything.
they are in the same mpg range or worse .
I completed a 2700 mile trip in my Entourage (same as Sedona) and averaged 23.3 mpg. I never got less then 20 mpg in city driving. Your mpg should improve with more miles but not with that load.
I find that anything over 65mph cuts into my mileage significantly (05 Quest SE).
65mph 25ish mpg
75mph 22ish mpg
82+mph 20mpg
All highway of course...extra stops and idling is a killer too
We have not taken many trips lately, but my last tank broke 26mpg.
Now that summer is coming we expect to get back to road tripping, and I expect mileage to go back up. We've been getting anywhere from 22-24 mpg in mostly around town driving lately.
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Return trip to CA in progress and mpg will be lower. Hauling more weight, A/C on constantly with the heat/humidity and slighly higher mph.
Will post in a week or so.
Eastbound: 3,390 miles at 27.1 MPG. Avg speed 70 mph mostly interstate; no A/C. Side winds Ohio, PA.
East coast : 1,850 miles at21.4 MPG. Mix of turnpike and local driving; A/C.
Westbound: 3,330 miles at 24.2 MPG. Avg speed 75 mph, mostly interstate; A/C. Back hauling 500 lbs. +/_ cargo incl. 12 vdc fridge and 2 full coolers. Constant high winds.
Total: 8,570 miles at 24.5 MPG.
70mph is a tough average to maintain for a trip...one pit stop for us kills this average
maintained 63-65 mph. A/C on and off. Very light on pedal. Lifted foot off the pedal in the downhills. 60 mph uphills. No stomping the pedal.
Filled the tank before hitting hwy. Reset average mpg indicator.
The indicator showed 30.6 mpg when I arrived at dest.
I was averaging 32 mpg up until George Washington Bridge traffic few mins.
Fantastic for the size.
The best mileage spot is 64 mph
Same distance aggressive driving I got 24.5 mpg.
75 mph.
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I have the same van...for me I do best around 50-55mph.
It shifts to overdrive at about 46mph under light loads, but at 50-55 it stays in 5th gear more of the time.
I've broken 30mpg only a couple of times in my '07. I'm too impatient and increase speeds most of the time.
I see the meter going one point above E. I am surprised to the mileage is just 188.
I am not sure whether the dealer filled in the gas for full. After few minutes of delivery, i saw the gas level came down one quarter.
I drove most of it local miles.
How much can I expect for mileage. Do i expect little early on the performance. What should i do exactly to check the mileage.
Zero the odometer each time you fill up. Then you can calculate miles on the trip odo/gallons need to fill it back up, starting from the 2nd tank.
High-end models have trip computers that estimate the mileage, but some are optimistic.