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Do they make it for Toyota? Cost$ and links for pics?
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http://www.kangaco.com/
-or here-
http://www.travelinnovations.com/store/category.asp?CategoryID=99- &Page=2
i am certain you could contact them and with some dimension information, they could tell you what would fit your vehicle.
I don't think this is the only company that produces roof products. there may be less expensive alternatives.
good luck.
I anticipate this will improve somewhat--but not dramatically so--with more use and a few oil changes.
1,500 mile road trip planned for end of the month will tell the tale.
i'm curious, what is the sienna's mpg display telling you you're getting?
Steve, Host
thanks
Molly
finally I'm seeing people with milege number like my '02 oddy which gets 15-17 city and 20-22 highway.
I don't really know what others are doing to get such great milege. I know I drive real conservatively rolling to red lights, never gunning it on the green.
To: i006129
I would be a little more persuasive with the service manager. Your results are not normal and it certainly should not be decreasing w/o a technical explanation. Do you have an extended warranty? They may be avoiding you for that reason.
with help of 4 oz of oil treatment.
I paid $2 a gallon today. It's getting expensive.
there are other items, i do not believe part of a typical "tune up", which could effect mileage. for example, the condition of the CAT convertor, a problem with a stuck fuel injector, a bad sensor, yada yada.
thought of another one: you could have a sticking brake caliper...
was the decline in mileage a slow thing, or rather rapid?
anyway these are some of the things i would begin looking at if my vehicle started to drop off in mileage.
i'm not sure for example if a fuel-additive, ie injector cleaner would be recommended. maybe your service department could advise if it is safe to add it to a tank of gas. i don't think the stuff costs much. if mileage doesn't increase, you aren't out more than $4-5 for that test.
maybe there is another forum (one not specific to VANs) you could ask your question in (not sure what one...while this would seem like the most appropriate one to post in, it probably isn't the most read).
yes. fuel is getting expensive isn't it?
good luck!
Topped it off with approx. 13gal after topping it off following trip. Surprised that the fuel light came on with over 6 gallons still left in the tank.
250.3 miles traveled on about 13.7 gallons = 18mpg
This was my normal drive of work/kid/shopping in suburbs and about 30% on highway to and from work.
I'll take it. I got around 22-24 on the all highway trip but I didn't track. Next time.
Later
Vehicle has 17K mi. 3.8 V-6. Mileage was confirmed by trip computer and traditional method. Prior to warmer weather and summer gas formulation highway mileage had been about22-23 at best.
City mileage is usually around 18-19 mpg. Overall I'm pretty pleased with the vehicle. Very comfortable highway cruiser.
uses regular unleaded 87 octane
now at $2.00 usd/gal!
23.3 mpg
Mostly rural and highway driving (40 - 60 mph)
Refilled crankcase with 5W-30 at 1k.
I have since sold that boat and I now have a '03 Ody with towing package and am now looking to buy another boat probably in the 3,000# total rig weight range. How much weight are you towing with your Ody? Do you have trailer brakes? Any trouble pulling boat out of the water at a boat ramp (assuming you are towing a boat)? Any information would be appreciated. Thanks.
345 miles on 15.3 gallons gas = 22.5 mpg.
Used Mid grade gas; 89 octane.
90% Highway driving; usually 65-75 mph.
Family of 5 with cargo area 75% full of luggage.
I'm happy
Steve, Host
11-14mpg city
17-20mpg highway
Best: 20.4mpg all highway.
Worst: 11.6mpg all city.
Overall: 18.3mpg for my >75% highway commute.
How fast? 65-75mph. To get over 20mpg you have to stay south of 70mph with the AWD version.
1.) 60% time I'm alone (drive to work)
2.) When I'm loaded I've only got two kids and two adults with very minimal gear (worst case scenario is food shopping with everybody)
I can only imagine what the editors are doing with it!!:)
Actually I think all that LA freeway driving probably hammers the mpg as much as anything.
Steve, Host
The EPA has it listed at 18city and 24highway. I know they are just estimated based on their dyno testing formula but in this case they are off by about 25-35%. In my experience 13 city / 18 highway for the AWD are about right.
'City' driving for me is running errands around my small town, picking up kids at school, etc. I've been getting a solid 17/city and 20/hwy with my XLE AWD. (Calculated by miles driven divided by gallons purchased--NOT the overly-optimistic console display). 4,700 miles and one oil change so far.
I have no complaints-- even if $2 gas is here to stay......
"'City' driving for me is running errands around my small town"
Driving around a small town is not exactly what I would consider "city". St. Louis is not that bad for traffic but there a lots of lights which kills fuel economy. Light to light driving is what I consider city. I have noticed a smilar issue with other AWD vehicles too like our Subaru Outback. They do OK on the highway after they are moving but if its light to light driving fuel economy really suffers. The Outback is supposed to get 22 city and thats not even close. Its more like 14-16city. Again, its AWD and 3700lbs. On the other hand it will get close to its 28mpg highway provided its kept aournd 65mph.
With the Sienna getting 4200lbs moving when you are driving all 4 wheels is just not that easy. On my daily commute I get 18mpg and sometimes as high as 19mpg. Its 28miles, almost all highway except the last 2 miles, and its 35min (or less) door to door. Its as close to all highway as one can get. I should be getting in the mid 20s. I'm getting 18mpg moving with traffic and 19/20mpg if I take it really easy. Thats at least 20% below EPA estimates. At least.
Even with your 20mpg highway you are 20% (4mpg) under the EPA ratings. By the way the EPA reduces the acutal number they get by 20% or so before they report it. So how on earth would they get 28mpg with a 4200lbs, AWD, van to start? Even if your fuel economy improves with break in (which I doubt) its not going to improve 20%. 5% perhaps, but certinaly not 20%. Mine has not improved at all over 7500miles and I dont expect it to.
My beef is not with Toyota. My problem is with the EPA and their methods. For its size and AWD drive train the Sienna does pretty well. I just dont think the EPA numbers are realistic given how they acutally calculate fuel economy.
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/info.shtml
Popular Mechanics: AWD, long term, 8000+ miles, mostly highway,18.8mpg caclulated.
Dan Jedlicka (MSN): AWD, "However, don't count on more than approximately 15 mpg in the city", mpg and methods were not specified.
Consumer Guide: AWD, long term, 19,780 mi. "lots of highway driving", 18.0mpg.
USA Today: AWD, "mostly interstates", 17.6mpg trip computer.
The highway range from the 3 times the AWD has been is 17.6-18.8mpg. Since the 17.6 was based on the trip computer it may even be an overestimate. Anyway, its about what I get and a full 5-6mpg below EPA estimates. The only time city driving in the AWD is mentioned the number 15mpg is thrown out as a high number. In that case the methods were not specified but is is consistent with the 13-14mpg I get in the city.
On highways, I am getting about 24mpg.
The only way to measure highway mileage is on a long trip on the highway at a constant speed. 10% or so of the driving in city can really reduce the mileage by a lot especially if you are getting 12 mpg in the city. Comuting is never a good indicator of highway mileage, because the engine is not warm for first part of the trip (yes it takes a few miles to warm up the engine even in the summer).
i think this is important to know when anyone reports mileage.
Also, even if I were gettin 10 mpg for the last part of my commute I should still be over 20mpg if the EPA estimates were close.