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dealer to check it. Something must be wrong.
(brake way too soon then acclerate again and brake.... and HARD and soft soft soft then acclerate hard then soft almost there and REALLY HARD to a stop!!!!!!!!
Max MPG 27.6
Total average MPG 20.6 MPG (10,000 miles)
Highway Avg MPG 25.2
Highway trips from Nashville, TN:
Florida, 25.4, 25.8
(Large Sears cargo carrier installed, fully loaded)
Indiana, 25.1, 27.6
North Carolina, 23.7
(with 500 less?)
must be cool!!
During first 2,000 miles mpg was 19/20, mostly driving under 30 minutes each trip and not at any speed for too long. Now, at 3,000 total miles, averages 20-22. We are taking longer trips, since gentle break-in is over.
89 Accord LX 5-speed: 28 - 30.
Use 87 octane gas in both.
Over the course of 1 1/2 months it has avg. 19-21
mpg highway, and with the little bit of city driving it has an avg. of 16-18 mpg around town.
My real question to any one that might know is
why the 3.8ltr V6 coupled with the same 4 speed
tranny (hopefully, a better refined transmission for the 2000 year) averaging 2-3 mpg better than the 3.3ltr V6?
You would think that a "bigger" engine with more
torque & horsepower the gas mileage would be less.
In fact, the manufacturer even rates the 3.8ltr
with better mileage than the 3.3ltr...go figure..
Could this be because of the fuel injection system, the camshaft, or valve train design between the two? Someone HELP ME HERE!!! ;-0
With all the darn homework I did before I made
this purchase, I over looked this vital statistic...They both have good reliability and are trustworthy engines.
But if you were in the market for a Grand CV, it would be an inexpensive upgrade to get the 3.8 instead of the 3.3. With only a 20 gal tank (hope that the 2001 will have a 25gal upgrade)
an extra 40-60 mile cruising range on a tank can add up to some great gas savings...especially with
today's fuel prices!!
I know my full sized Chevy van got improved miliage when I put a lower rear gear in it, meaning I'm actually turning the motor a little faster, but with less effort in moving the 5,500 Lbs through the air.
John
I'm still a bit confused on this issue when it comes to a front wheel drive vehicle. If the engine is directly coupled to the transmission drive train, and from there to the drive shafts, then to the wheels with no other gearing in between as there is with rear wheel drive....?
Could there be a difference in the size of the lock-up torque converter between the two engines....fly wheel size....? Maybe it's because the 3.3ltr just has a higher rpm speed overall than the 3.8ltr at acceleration and during cruising speeds and takes more effort to maintain the speeds....
However, it does make sense to me that a higher hp
engine will move a 4000lb van with allot less effort, which can equate to improved mpg. So many
factors play on the end solution!!
Why the hell am I complaining for anyway...I have
friends who have recently purchased SUV's with
V8 engines and boy are they hating life with these
outrageous gas prices!!
freeway 26-27
3.0L engine
in town mileage 12.8 miles per gallon. Do not
have stats for hwy yet.
Am I correct in understanding that this is
way below normal ?
For the first 10,000 miles my Odyssey has had the following mpg:
Minimum 18.2 Winter Stop & Go driving
Average 25.1 10,000 mile overall average
Maximum 33.2 Non-stop Interstate driving
This was with mostly 87 octane gas with a few 89 octane fill-ups. (With the Maximum I had a good tail wind on I69 in Michigan.)
But, I tell you what I DO do. Almost every morning, I pull over in a nearby parking lot
and run the engine with A/C while I play my
guitar. (It's like the only chance I get, cause
there's no place to get away at the house...).
I sit there for about a half hour. OBVIOUSLY,
this is going to cause a reduction in gas mileage,
as I am sitting there comsuming gas, but adding
no miles. Frankly, I doubt this practice is
solely responsible for bringing me down to
12.8 mpg, but I know it is not helping.
I am now repeating the experiment without
pulling over in the morning.
I certainly appreciate everyone's comments on this
issue. This website is great !
Worst: all city, school lines, bank lines, etc. 14.8 MPG.
City/Hwy: about 50/50 split, got 18.95 MPG.
Best: All I-10 to Houston and back cruise at 71 MPH with a 10-20 mph side wind: 24.8 MPG with 5 adults, 2 kids and a picnic cooler packed along with backpacks, shoes, clothes, etc.
Great Van overall so far.
Has anyone out there had any luck in getting a repair or replacement for such a problem? So far the dealer tells me to wait for the 7500 mile break-in to be over, but at the rate I drive, I won't clear that before the 12-month period for Ohio lemon law runs out, so I really have to pursue it right away. Any relevant experiences would be helpful!
On a possibly related note, we had our vehicle in for warranty work for an engine light that kept coming on. On the second trip in, they replaced the computer. However, this has not dramatically improved our gas mileage.
24.0-25.4 hwy
some of hwy was at night, without front/rear AC blasting. almost all city driving was with AC on.
on the highway. This is with 87 octane fuel. With 93 octane my milage around town tends to
be a mile or so better per gallon. Next trip
I'm going to fill up with premium to see if I
get an increase there too.
Last year an almost identical trip to the same destination taken with about 8k miles on the van yielded a mean of 24.68 mpg. This year the only differences, other than the increase in mileage on the van, were: 1) use of Mobil 1 5W-30 synthetic motor oil (last year I was using Pennzoil 5W-30) and 2) the use of a standard replacement K&N air filter.
Prior to last year we did the trip three years in a row in our old '90 Caravan with 3.0L V6 and 3-speed transmission. I didn't keep detailed notes but average mpg's were in the 25-26 range.
Given the amount of gear and the dogs we drag along, and the comfort level of the Caravan and Grand Caravan, I have been most satisfied with fuel economy. One other thing I should mention, a few years ago the cheapest grade on unleaded regular out in Colorado only had an octane rating of 84-85. I had no problems using this gas. This year it seems that the cheap pumps all had the typical 87 octane.