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I am really sorry, that you are not happy with your T6. I have a good time with my 2.9. It makes 20 MPG on mixed driving (bad mix both ways - either city traffic, or freeway stop-n-go, or freeway blast at over 75 - all of these conditions are bad for the mileage). It makes 25-27 MPG on the long leisure highway trips.
I do not know what a good AM reception should be, but I am pretty content with mine, it drops stations when I am far away from city, and pick - up some noise under the power lines, but I think that is normal.
And I have had all the common issues for 2000 MY car - sub-frame bushings, etc., but the service department of Calabasas Volvo fixed them all fast and professionally, so I did not feel much of inconvenience.
LOW OIL PRESSURE. STOP & PARK CAR ASAP (paraphrasing)
The Oil can sign also shows up. All this happens in a few seconds.
I have serviced the car as per schedule. Is there something I should be scared of.
Here's my story. With 100k miles on my 2000T6, the transmission is finally gone. When around 90k, I started noticing vibrations during gear change - the transmission "hesitated". The dealer said don't worry about it. It worsened over the time, and now I have big problems with acceleration. It feels like the tranny doesn't transfer the engine power - RPMs go high but there's no acceleration at all. When I release the acc. pedal, it feels like the transmission suddenly "locks" and the car is kicked forward with a mighty hitch, however hitting the accelerator again results in another idle RPMs.
Now the dealer told me that the are some error codes on the transmission, and that a replacement will cost around 4000 USD (which is now about 1/3 of the car value). I've found one 2002 tranny at the aftermarket - it has 18k miles on it and cost will be a fraction of a new part. I just hope it's going to work for me.
Has anyone any experience with installation of used parts; and particularly transmissions?
And, just for curiosity, has anyone experienced same problems like me?
Sparq
I don't have many options now and have to stay with my baby for some time. Hopefully the tranny is the only bigger investment in the next 12+ months!
When listening to observations of the mechanic who's replacing the tranny for me (I trust him, he's straight and he has good experience with Volvos), I feel like issuing a chart of most infamous Volvo dealers in New England... I must've been very naive to have regularly serviceed my car at Volvo dealers after the warranty had expired!
Will be AWD w/ the new V8.
And by the way - C1 is a great platform, definite success in every flavor - Ford, Mazda, Volvo.
There also seems to be a lot of brake dust on the wheels only days after cleaning. I have read about this on the board, but having owned only American made cars before, wondered if this indicated excessive pad wear.
Thanks for your help.
The S80's body and styling are being finalized.
Whether that is truly the final design is anyone's guess.
We may be given some info next month @ the XC90 V8 ride and drive.
I was pleased with the free service which also included a wash job.
There is no substitute for cleaning your wheels once a week.
An expensive sloution would be chrome plating your wheels, they are easier to clean and look good too.
Q: What do you call a Jaguar now that they're owned by Ford?
A: A FORD!
Buy another one - only with a death wish. Volvo denied any service bulletins ever issues for any of these problems. Not true.
So far, Fords "beancounters" haven't come anywhere near Volvo.
The new S40 is the first fruit of the Volvo Ford partership and its arguably the best driving and handling Volvo ever.
Its also cheaper than the 1993 Volvo 240 was in real dollars.
The current S80 is a nice car, but out of date by modern standards.
I would also direct your attention to the new Jaguar XJ, 100% Jaguar and no skimping from the beancounters.
I agree, so far Ford's influence was only for better. I could add that a world awarded roll-over protection system was designed by Ford's affiliate Continental Teves.
I have been told that part of the acquisition agreement prohibits Fords from sharing bits with Volvos (I'm paraphrasing) for ten years, but allows the opposite. So if this is true--and when the ten years is up--I believe the bean counters at Ford won't be able to help themselves. They need to make up the losses from Jaguar somewhere.
I do not think it is true. The C1 platform (Ford/Mazda/Volvo) is a true shared technology. I just do not believe that Ford will deliberately hurt them self by not trusting the Volvo design team which knows how to build large sedans. So far we can see the opposite - all Ford new large sedans and cross - overs are Volvo-based.
So, anyway, I went last night and testdrove an '00 Benz E320, but didn't fall in love like I thought I would. It just didn't feel like a big enough step up from my Volvo to justify taking on payments all over again. So, what I'm here to ask is if anyone can give me an opinion as to the S80 compared to the S60 or even the S70. I've been in the S60 and didn't find it an improvement over the S70, so I think any 60 comments could apply to the 70 as well. Is the 80 a more comfortable and luxurious vehicle? I'd specifically be looking at '00 and '01 T6s. Any thoughts appreciated. I know I could obviously go track one down and give it a spin to see for myself, but if its just going to be a waste of my time, I'd rather not waste it.
Thanks.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
There is a big difference between the two: Increased luxury (the seats are even BETTER than those in the S70), hugely more powerful, not to mention larger and more modern interior.
As you know, the early models have some issues. Because of the low mileage, I was lucky enough to qualify for the Volvo extended warranty--despite the age of the car. I would go for an '02 or '03 T-6--preferably a dealer-certified-used--and not look back. You'll love it.
in my opinion, the S60 was too small to be an adequate replacement to the S70. Besides, EVERYBODY has a Mercedes now. And the ubiquitous late-90's E-series certainly was NOT engineered like no other car in the world.....
Back in late 1999 I have done a pretty serious research that has included test drives for basically all 30 to 40K cars available back then.
My conclusion was that Volvo S80 is the best value (for our family). You will definitely get much more car for your money, compare to Mercedes, BMW and Audi.
Volvo feels more luxurious, spacious and "mellow" (in 2.9 version) than BMW 5 and Mercedes E.
T6 is also fast.
IMHO Volvo lacks a precision handling of BMW, but beats it hands down in quality of ride and interior space. And yet, it is very sure footed and gives you more confidence at high speeds than near luxury Japanese cars - Acura and Lexus.
S80 feels like a tank at cruising speeds.
The seats are extremely comfortable. S80 makes my frequent short to medium range business trips (1 to 3-4 hours) very enjoyable.
The DSTC system is marvelous. Ever since I've got my S80, I have stopped using chains going to the ski resort. I just do not feel that they are required.
I will be honest - I am seriously in love with Volvo, and that is because of S80. In 4 years our family became 100% Volvo family - S80 for me, XC90 for my wife and used 1990 740 for our daughter have replaced Nissan Altima, Mazda MPV and Ford F-150.
Actually, heywood, I didn't know about problems with the earlier S80s. Guess I'll have to go back and read more of this particular discussion. I was pretty much set on checking out the '01s due to the low price. But, then again, many folks say our '98 S70s are problematic, and I think its safe to say (with 150k on yours and 100k on mine) that the problems are not as "world-ending" as some people would have you think.
The T6 is supposedly a bit slower than my T5, but a couple tenths of a second doesn't deter me. I am assuming the T6 doesn't have as much turbo lag, so I think the 2 will feel very similar to me.
So, lev, tell me more about the DSTC. Based on your comments, I have to assume this is better than the TRACS on my S70 (which has absolutely no affect since I can spin my wheel pretty much whenever I want [or don't want]).
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
Any Volvo will go for hundreds of thousands of miles. The question is, at what cost? As my brother-in-law says, "Any restaurant is 'all-you-can-eat'-- until you run out of money...."
1. It's a full time system, it works even during the braking (unlike many other systems, including TRACS, where they switch to ABS)
2. It has yaw sensor.
DSTC measures the relative rotation of each wheel. but also takes in consideration the input from the accelerator and your steering wheel. In essence, computers understands where and how fast you want to go. At the same time, the yaw sensor measures an actual direction of a car in the horizontal plane. As a result, computer makes everything possible to let you go where you wanted to go by either adjusting amount of torque on driving wheels or amount of braking force on each individual wheel.
The practical result is that the system controls skid by providing just right amount of torque to each wheel, to prevent the lock-up, and controls spin by locking/unlocking particular wheels, pivoting a car counter wise to the original spin, plus providing additional pivoting to ensure that direction in which car is moving corresponds to the input from the steering wheel.
Another major advantage of this system is that you can steer during emergency braking.
This system might not ensure the shortest stopping distance, but allows to be in control and steer to the very moment you stop.
Also, you will find out, to your surprise, that since it controls the braking during the braking, the system will react and apply emergency braking for you in some instances, when it is required to prevent a spin.
The only thing DSTC can not do is to defeat the laws of physics.
You will coast to stop much longer (even if you will coast perfectly straight) on a slippery surface.
OK, so my wife came across a '99 T6 with ULTRA-LOW miles. I'm trying to find posts as to why the '99 is a bad year for these. Any help would be appreciated.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
2. Sub-frame bushing of the earlier production cars had insufficient design, and were replaced later.
3. Several electrical problems were corrected
later.
4. There were some problems with the front suspension, that were corrected later.
I will strongly suggest 2001 or later. My bushings and some parts of suspension (could not remember which, though) were replaced under the warranty. There were several - replace if broken service bulletins issued by Volvo.
But most of the issues were resolved by 2001.
And overall, I am happy with the 2000, but you probably will take more chances with 1999 than with 2001 or later.
If the previous owner was conscientious, many of these items may have been repaired or upgraded under warranty.
And of course this is all mitigated by how cheap you can buy the car. If you can steal it from the seller, then you'll have plenty of money left over for repair issues.
But unless you can absolutely steal this car, I agree that you should consider a 2001 model or later.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
When I bought my CPO S70, it came with the VIP warranty. It was useless most of the time. The only thing they fixed under warranty was the leaking oil return line of the turbo, which is a very inexpensive and easy fix, by the way. The failed water temp sender and leaking vacuum line in the intake manifold were both out of my pocket. I still love my car, don't get me wrong, but you'll never find me relying on a VIP warranty again.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
I believe that belts, hoses, or anything made out of rubber is not covered.
From the Edmunds overview and the postings, It seems that the S80 is a good value, comfortable but will be a bit softer in terms of handling than the Audi in particular. How does S80 behave on winding roads, or emergency maneurvers? Also any experience in comparing Volvo AWD with tried and true Audi in snow and ice?
DSTC equiv comes standard on the other cars, but apparently I can only get it on the 2005 AWD with the "run flat" package, whose tires I am not particularly crazy about (harsh ride). Anybody have experience with handling charactaristics above or experience with run flat or if there is another way to get DSTC (which I consider very important) without getting the run flats package? Thanks!
The S80 is going to behave more like a Mercedes and less like a BMW or Audi.
The Haldex system is fabulous, much better than the Quattro system. In fact, Audi uses the Haldex system for the TT.
does.
I picked it up at $38,000 miles for what I think was a fair price: $14,500. I thought at that price I could afford a few bills.
Now at $48,000 miles, My electrical system seems to be acting up: The blinkers don't work, along with the doors and message center. I'm taking it in Monday. Anyone experience this? Should I run back to the Toyota Camry's I was comfortable with?
It's such a great looking, comfortable car, but seeing some of the messages I am wondering if I should just cut my losses now.