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Tires:I have the 17'' Mich's on my 2000 S80T6. Changed two tires at 45,000 mile. Mainly because one was run flat and ruined. The new ones are on the front the originals on the back at 58,000 miles. they are a little over 3/32 and I will probility replace them in August. Who is telling who that 35,000 miles is normal!!
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What happened? (you must be wondering) Took my 960 to Volvo Richardson for oil change. The service dude told me that I need to replace the under body guard and air guide. I asked why. He said they both were broken and can't be put back to the car. Well, they were lying. I told them to leave the broken parts back in my trunk, and I put the parts back to the car myself at home. Took my car in for oil change in Houston later (volvo dealer). I asked if it's necessary to replace the under body guard. They service manager told me it's fine. No need to waste money.
Okay, again, took my car back to the dealer for oil change. This time is in Volvo Autobahn in Fort Worth. Their mechanics were either high on drugs or just shi_ty stupid. I asked for full synthetic oil change. Nope, didn't happened. I heard their conversation behind the door. The mechanic said "man, I didn't know he wanted synthentic oil. hell, he wouldn't know..." The bill was charging me the price for full synthetic. I spoke to the service manager. He sweared on his mother's life to me that I got the full synthetic oil. yeah, my aXX.
Anyhow, so far my best experience is with Volvo Dallas. They do take care of customers. Their service managers do listen and find solutions to the problems. Also, you don't have to wait for long appointments for a loaner car.
In conclusion, DON'T TAKE YOUR CAR TO VOLVO RICHARDSON AND AUTOBAHN FOR SERVICE!!!
1. What do you think of the using the alternate size 235/45/17's because there is a better selection from which to choose and more competitive pricing (I know Volvo is strict about the options)?
2. Which is a better option (looking at drive quality only and excluding pricing considerations), the 225/55/16's or the 235/45/17's?
3. Considering my preferences and the answers to 1 & 2, what tires would you recommend?
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Those original tires are beginning to look at little war torn and the car is getting inspected in a month (AKA I need to do something fast).
THANKS!!!!!
Thanks in advance for your help!
Volvo of Houston out I-10
Momentum
Which is best?
We always had very good luck with them. They all come from Closed, Volvo-Dealer-Only auctions and they're pre-checked for accident/structural damage..etc. We probably moved close to 20 a month.. I mean, $23K for a year old S70GLT? They were EASY to sell and a great Value for the customer. They were very highly maintained and we very rarely had problems with them when they hit the shop before they hit the lot. (Just the usual.. Brakes, sometimes tires, the odd ck engine light or other little problem.. but they never apeared to be "Abused".
The ones that had been in accidents went through the auction as "Open Sale" carsand I never bought any!
So, yeah.. I wouldnt beafraid of them at all. I have sold a few of them to people I knew and they were always pleased with them.
Kundert is also a good dealership to deal with.
Bill
Stick with the (Overpriced IMHO) Michelins. 37K is darn good for Z/V rated tires.
Excellent Grip=Soft Rubber=Quick Wear. Consider it a "Casualty of performance"
Bill
Our T6 is on P6000s.
Based on what you said, Im a bit concerned. Any used car thats is a good value like this should not sit for so long. I wonder if the good ones move each time they get them in, and the dogs sit?
Are these auctions monthly? thanks.
They have stuff from FOUR MONTHS OLD TO A YEAR OLD on their lot?
Good GOD! We always sold em quickly.. but then, we always nailed the heck outta them on pricing! Come to think of it, we were turning our ex-BC cars in about 20-25 days. If I were you, I'd go talk to Paul Davis at Montclair... He is a VERY straight shooter.
Bill
I pulled out Kunderts stock list, dated 5/20/02, so you dont think Im making this up. THe 2001's range in inventory time from 130 days to 404 days (buts thats extreme). Most seem to be in the range of six months to eight months (this is 21+/- cars). Prices are 28K for the V70's, and $30K for the S80's. I know most of the V70's dont have traction, so I think thats why they sit. They offerred me the V70's at about $27,100, and the S80's at $28,400. Seems pricy given the time on the lot!
We used to get a lot of cars in that sold so quickly.. it wasnt worth spending the $$/time to throw em on the website. 96 XJSs were a great example... So were 240s. Whenever they came in, we just made a few calls and they were gone.
I'd be surprised if they didnt have a couple.
I'll double-check current pricing for ya when I get to the office tomorrow.
Bill
And do you think the market for used 850s will continue to be very strong?
have experienced "low oil pressure, pull over and stop ASAP" message a few times.
The light actually flickers (sometimes) while waiting at lights, i.e. engine running but foot on the brake.
The service manager described it as a "flicker" too, and said it was
something that happened to the S80's and that it was not serious. Has anyone here experienced
this?
thanks
-r
When I did (I no longer work for and dont own a Volvo dealership) work at a Volvo store 740s were rarely traded in in "retailable" condition, 940s sold reasonably well. Our main sellers were 850s, S70s..etc.
Bill
What weight oil ya running? Could also be a bad sending unit...
Bill
Have you seen the Letter from the Town Hall Manager on the Town Hall Welcome page? If not, you might want to follow that link to have a look.
And hang on to your seats. Change is never easy - for any of us - but resolving the Search problems we've had will be worth the pain.
Pat
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Bulletin No. 210028, dated March 2000. Try the above website at Edmonds for all the recalls and TSBs on any model car. Great tool.
7.ENGINE NHTSA Number: SB610590
Bulletin Number: 2198
Bulletin Date: APR 2000
Vehicle: 2000 Volvo S80
Summary:
SERVICE CAMPAIGN ENVOLVING THE ENGINE OIL FILLER GRAKE LOCATED IN THE ENGINE OIL FILLER NECK OF CERTAIN VEHICLES.
Regards,
Trey
The dealer (Ct's Own in Milford) replaced it that afternoon, washed the car generally gave us the royal treatment.
If there isn't a warranty included, check into getting one. Also, how much is the car going for? Check the used values here and on KBB.
I have had a few minor problems but the dealer has called and is trying to sell me the extended warranty for an additional 3 years or up to 100k miles. Have seen on boards the horror stories of other Volvo s80 owners and now am not sure wether to proceed or not. If I do, any suggestions on buying the additional warranty?
Thoughts or suggestions appreciated.
Has anyone experienced the transmission jerking into gear gear upon stepping on the accelarator in the 2002 S80?
I know the tranny has a driver adaptive feature but my wife is the primary driver and it does it to her consistantly.
Our S80 has 3005 miles on it and I was hoping it was something that would self adjust with time learning my wifes driving style.
We traded our 99 S70 for this one and it had the same adaptive feature but we never experienced the bucking and jerking.
Any insights?
Buy one? You will never need it.
Dont buy one? You'll wish ya had
Bill
00 T6 <--Mom is driving it and it has been bulletproof. Even after $29K in accident repairs. (No we are not buying out the lease! lol)
My '99 T6 was manufactured in 5/99 and has been a wonderful but not completely trouble free vehicle. Had to have front bushings replaced twice, mass meter went out once, and had a recent recall replacing electric fan. Just went over 53K and found upper motor mount cracked and replaced. But, its the best car I've ever owned; drives beautifully (and fast) with amazing pickup. Very comfortable, good radio, CD changer in trunk works well as does tape deck (we use this a lot on longer trips.)
I'd buy another one without a qualm.
It would be interesting to know just how many real lemons were made; surely we heard from many of their owners, but what are the real numbers?? I know what misery a lemon can cause, but how many were there??
Hope this is clear!
Well, I decided to do manual shifting for a 62 mile drive today. Spirited driving, some lights, good curves, high revs, occasional open road. Left it full auto on the way back. No hunting, no stuttering!! Good solid auto shifts!!
Wonder if the adaptive learning tranny needs to go to remedial school once in a while?
I posted a few months ago (Msg #886) about the same problem with my 2002 S80 2.9 (half year model). I noticed there were a number of times as I initially accelerated there would be a jerking kind of feel to the transmission. It reminded me of a manual transmission switching gears. This doesn't happen all the time, but occasionally. It's my first Volvo, so I just figured it was the way the creature functioned. I haven't had it serviced yet since it only has about 2,600 miles on it.
I really love the car, so the one little "glitch" wasn't a big issue with me. But, I am curious to know if this is something that should be repaired by the dealer. Maybe someone else out there has some insight into this. Any salespeople from the dealerships participating on this board have any ideas on this? Thank you in advance.
This is my second Volvo I traded a 99 base S70,I wanted an S80 all along and finally got one.
I feel the same way you do about the car, this is the only thing about it that troubles me and I know from experience two drivers with different styles can "confuse" the adaptive system my S70 had a very slight problem like the one we are having with our S80's but it went away after about 1,500 miles of driving.
I'm hoping this hesitation thing will pass or can be adjusted by the dealer I have 4,200 on my S80 and plan on taking it in soon if this does not self adjust.
Let me know if you hear about what is going on and the recommended correction from a different source.
Thanks,
Balooo
There have been 2 right head lamps replaced under warranty (I bought the car with 10,800 mi on it). I do notice that until it warms up (which is quickly), it does tend to hesitate when the accelerator is pressed - but that's the only time it hesitates - it's a rocket otherwise.
Great fuel economy for the performance, the dealer has been terrific, actually spoiling me.
I make my living out of my vehicles and they get used and taken care of, not just driven back and forth to an office, or the store, or something like that. The last Volvo I had was a 1975 240 DL...this is a very nice change.
It also sounds like your car is doing that transmission hesitation number upon initial hesitation. I usually notice it when the car is just starting out in the morning and I'm just getting going down the street. Just for a moment the transmission is thinking. After that, all is smooth driving. The acceleration on the car is terrific! You all know what I'm talking about. I also noticed that palting in Msg #943 has a similar sounding happening with his transmission, but it sounds as if he has remedied it with full auto on the way back.
Happy & Safe Volvoing everyone!
What is the consensus of the knowledgeable folks on this board regarding the "recent" stats on reliability? I know '00 and '01 had serious issues. Have these been corrected in mid-latter '02?
tia,
metmdx
This is my second Volvo and I love my S80.
I say this to make clear for anyone seeking advice before purchasing a Volvo I highly recommend the brand.
That having been said...
My S80 is a 2.9 non turbo,correct me if I'm wrong but the warm-up explaination probably would not apply here in addition I think the Turbo models have a different tranny in them. The Turbo model I test drove had a manual override feature the 2.9 does not, so none of the reasons given apply to my 2.9 model.
I'm taking it in next week I'll give an update on what the service techs at my Volvo dealership Taylor Volvo Gainesville Fl.
(great service BTW) have to say.
Thanks to all,
Balooo