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got 5000 on my 01 and running great.
Freezes me out in Florida.
As for growling noises some folks are reporting, I would suggest checking the air intake dusct work to the engine. When mine was new and I was scoping out the various things under the hood, I noticed that the duct work was less than 50% coupled to the throttle body. I loosened the clamp and pushed it on all the way and tightened it. I know an engine will really growl is air is coming in with the air cleaner off which is same if the duct work worked itself free. Just a hunch.
Later,
Tony
Here's a direct link to that discussion: Hyundai Elantra 5 door. Hope this is helpful. ;-)
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I finally got my white (not midnight gray) package 3 5-speed Elantra yesterday. This is my first new car, and the first 5-speed I've owned... needless to say, it's a fun experience learning to drive the stick well. I'm entirely happy with the car right now, but will update my thoughts once I put more miles on the car.
I'm trying to avoid driving the car on the highway as an attempt to break it in better, but the little that I have I noticed that mine revs at about 2750-2800 RPMs at 65mph. We've discussed this issue before. It gets up to 3400 RPMs at about 80mph (I was in a big hurry for a little while yesterday!). Even then, it's not too loud. Hey, for me... used to my '92 Subaru Loyale rusty wagon with a 3-speed automatic, it doesn't get any better than this!
JK
Jkempskie, thanks for the rpm info. The article I read must have been mistyped, or the driver misread the tach.
As far as the rpm issue goes, mine idles at 400 parked, and about 2600 at 70 mph.
Thanks for pointing out that the first line between the 0 and 1k rpm is not at the halfway mark. I immediately went to my garage and checked because I have been thinking that my car was idling at 400-500 rpms. Now that I see that the line is about 70% between 0 and 1k rpm I know it is idling at about 600-700 rpm.(normal range)
I have about 850 mi on my Elantra and have only minor complaints at this time:
Seats are a little stiff for my taste. (although the only vehicle I have been comfortable in was a long haul truck with a pneumatic seat)
Window visor needs an extension to block out the sun from the side.
Fuzzy logic shifting occasionaly shifts erratically. (I have seen this with every vehicle I have driven with these type of transmissions so it is not a Hyundai issue)
Air conditioner sometimes seems to blow hot air when slowing down in speed.
Fuel Door sticks.
Overall I still think it is the best buy for the money out there.
To those that are getting poor gas mileage. I agree with lyndon5 that you need to see the dealer to find out what is broke.(Possibly oxygen or maf sensor problem) You should be able to get very close to the EPA estimates or better.
I have gotten between 24 & 28 mpg in 90% city driving.
That is basically what I did and got a 2001 Auto with option 3 for $14,400 out the door including all fees, taxes, tag, and title. (6% tax in my local)
On April 8, 2001, my 2000 Elantra turned one year old. 12,000 miles to date. Took it in for the recall on the 02 sensor. My car wasn't affected by it. It was checked but nothing was done. So that doesn't even count. The ONE and ONLY thing that I had a problem with was the brakes. Brakes started to pulsate. Defective front rotor. Resurfaced both rotors. Problem disappeared. I was in and out of the dealer in 1 hr. Covered under warranty. THATS IT!!! No other trips to the dealer other then normal routine maintance.
Annoyances....(very minor, expected at a car this cheap)
1) cheap paint...scratches too easily, and being my car is black doesnt help me.
2) couple rattles here and there that come and go
3) some cheap plastic
Pluses..
1) excellent AC- cold and no noticable engine strain
2) nimble handling. POWERFUL engine
3) Good stock stereo
4) Excellent Gas mileage (40 highway, 32 city)
So I HIGHLY recommend this car to anyone. It is an excellent reliable car. My car is just as quiet as it was 12,000 miles ago. I am very pleased with it. The minor annoyances don't bother me...it would if it were a BMW paying all that money. But for the important stuff such as the engine and ride, i ll sacrafice it for that
I was just at the K&N website and took the measurements of the air cleaner that was in the car and none on their chart comes close.
Thanks
Tony
A response from them said that currently there is no filter available for the 01 El antra and that I should check back in a couple of months to see if it's available yet. Al
Let us know what you find.
Tony
1) Acceleration not so good. I don't want to ruin a car even if it's not mine, so I didn't want to floor it. But when I felt the acceleration was not what I expected, I pushed the pedal harder. The tach went to ~4500, but still the acceleration was below expectations for a 140hp.
2) Brake pedal feel was very soft.
3) After the drive, opened the hood to take a look. Put my hand on the intake manifold, but the idle was not very smooth. Also, when I was inside I can feel the engine from the steering wheel. It's definitely not what some of you said..."have to look at the tach to know if it was running". Basically it wasn't any smoother than my Nissan Stanza with 100k miles.
Judging by the fact that you have a Stanza which has about the same HP as the Elantra the acceleration should be similar. But since the Stanza has a little more torque it will have slightly better acceleration.
A soft brake pedal is kind of a judgment thing.
My wife's van has ABS and I think that vehicle's brake pedal has a much softer feel than my Elantra without ABS. I just returned a 98 Chevy S10 pickup lease that had ABS and it had about the same pedal feel as my Elantra.
I don't know about other peoples Elantras but the one I test drove and the one I own are so quite and smooth running that I had to look at the tac to make sure they were running.
Acceleration with the 5spd is quite spirited; it's been clocked by mags at 8.3 secs 0-60, which is in the faster range for cars of this class. If you want max acceleration, go for the 5spd vs. the automatic. Or maybe some of the horses were AWOL from your tester.
I personally love the brake feel of the Elantra, very controllable even on snow/ice, but that is subjective. Still, it wouldn't hurt to drive another sample or two to make sure your tester was representative. Did your tester have the elusive ABS option?
What do you do for this. " chang oil and filter top fluids and check for leaks etc. I get the same service for my 2000 Maxim for 21.00 Do we have a problem here!!!
Overall, the shifting is smooth-the only exception is when I am shifting in second gear. I have asked the dealers and service guys to test drive it- when they did, they told me that they did not hear anything. I was just wondering if anyone else has had this problem.
Thanks
JS
*I had a factory alarm installed that stopped working twice within the first week...but it didn't just not beep and lock the doors, the car wouldn't even start...so needless to say I had them remove it and refund my money.
*After four months of owning the car, two of the ignition coils went bad, and once again I had to be towed.
*About three days after I got the car back from have the ignition coils replaced, the catalytic converter went bad
*At about eight months, I noticed that it was starting to shift funny. It was winding up a lot sometimes before it would change gears, but I thought I was just me.
*At about ten and a half months, my car started really shifting bad, and it "kicks" half of the times I come to a stop or almost stop and hit the gas again. The feeling is like if you forgot to put the clutch in when you came to a stop in a manual. (Not fun). But my dealer says they can't find the problem, and it is getting worse.
*At eleven months my car start making a funny ticking sound when it is idling, and the RPMs are so low that it will more often that not stall out the first time I start the car.
*And one last thing, at about 10 months, my gas mileage when from 28 mpg city to 18 mpg city...I still have to have that looked at.
You get a lot for what you pay for this car, but all I can say is Thank God for the warranty and the roadside assistance.
Thanks,
Kat
I tried to order from Pep Boys and Discount Auto Parts.. But they said K & N is not making air filter for Hyundai any more..
However, when I went to Mobile to change Engine Oil.. I asked them to order one for me.. they said they can get it for me and somehow they got one for me.. It took 2 weeks...
and cost me about $ 55.00.. (Pep Boys' Price was $49.00)
I havent given up hope yet. Did u install it yourself? Did it fit good?
Do you notice any difference? Let us know how your mileage is doing before and after the k&n.
Thanks
Tony
One thing I find refreshing in Hyundais are their lack of four cylinder buzziness at highway speeds. Honda's may have smooth, rev-happy four bangers, but they are very annoying to listen to on the highway! My brother's 95 Integra GSR sedan is very tiring on a long trip because the engine is spinning at 4000 rpms at 75 and emits a constant loud buzz. The tires roar obnoxiously loud too. The new 01 Civics are no different. Owners are commenting on the tiring buzz of the engine because it is spinning around 3500 rpms at 70. The Elantra and the Accent operate at lower rpms on the highway, making them quieter, less buzzy, and therefore, less annoying. Heck, I just took my 00 Accent to 107 mph and the engine was audible but hardly annoying. Wind noise was the predominant noise, not the engine. Kudos to Hyundai for giving us tall ratio fifth gears that help keep the engine quiet. I also must mention that my Accent was suprisingly stable and very hunkered down at 107. I wasn't scared at all driving it that fast and the car felt like it could continue driving at that speed all day. Hyundai knows how to design a good suspension! I was very impressed with its top speed manners, especially considering its wimpy 13" tires. It would put a smile on my face to see the look on a Focus ZX3 driver's face when a little 92 horse Hyundai blew by his 130 horse Ford who's top speed is limited to 104. Wouldn't they be surprised and embarrassed! I have owned my car for almost a year now and it has 14,500 miles. Even though it has been driven very hard (been over 100mph 4 times and most of its mileage was city driving), it has not given me any problems. I have only taken it to the dealer once for a squeaky seat belt buckle and misaligned glovebox. That's it!! No other problems or failures to report. Hyundai has earned a repeat buyer and one who will gladly recommend Hyundai to others. Driving is believing!!
I'll trade you this handsome little Spell checker I hold in my hands for your 2001 Elantra. Hell, just to show you what kind of sport I am, I'll even toss in a free set of batteries. Since English appears to be a second language for you, I think you should take me up on my offer as soon as possible :-)
Go to any lube/oil place and keep the receipts for warranty stuff. You'll notice that Hyundai has a whole section of do-it-yourself maintenance in the owner's manual. So, anything listed there we can have done ourselves and NEVER worry that we have broken warranty guidelines. Never be afraid to take car problems out of the Hyundai system. Just keep good concise records and receipts. No car company can mandate that service be done at their dealerships in order to keep warranties in force.
Mark.
I don't think you should say that Mark is somebody just trying to knock Hyundais. He appears to me to be someone who honestly has gotten a lemon. This occurs with all types of vehicle and is of course not limited to Hyundais.
I believe he should take the vehicle back to the dealer until they fix the obvious problems or give him a new vehicle under the lemon law rules.
I think it is commendable that Mark has not been even more outspoken against Hyundai judging by the amount of problems with his vehicle.
I have 1200mi on mine now and have no similar problems to his. If, however, I did I probably wouldn't be as restrained as he has been.
Most of us here are just trying to assist each other with our vehicles. (With the exception of the occasional Honda owner who needs to knock the Hyundai to feel justified for spending so much for their car.)
Bottom line: Give Mark a break. What if it was you that had gotten a lemon?
Don
P.S. I used our first names because it seems when people are anonymous they have a tendency to be less than courteous.(Please don't get angry, that is not the intention of my posting.)
I did give him the benefit of the doubt the first time he posted. However, the second post was almost an exact carbon copy of the first. Being that I participate in many forums, I have seen people similar to him in the Daewoo forums when they first came out. They would post once or twice about a ridiculously high number of problems and yet never follow up on how the dealer tried to solve them nor what ever happened to the mysterious lemon. The same poster would then try to compare his "lemon" Korean car to his superbly reliable Japanese car, saying over and over how good his Toyota or Honda is. His post just strikes me as fishy. His complaints of fuel economy could be true and he had a legitimate complaint regarding acceleration noise. However, I find it seriously hard to believe that the engine just screams at 70 mph and wind noise comes from all directions. I mean even if he got a poor running engine, the car still has the same exact amount of insulation and sound deadening as every other Elantra so his car shouldn't be considerably louder than any other (unless his exhaust fell off, which I'm sure he would notice). My main point is he is complaining loudly about his problems but hasn't mentioned at all trying to get them fixed. If I were an owner of a lemon, I sure would be posting my interactions with the dealer and whether they were trying to fix my problems! The second problem I find is that he keeps going over and over about how great his Camry is and how the Elantra doesn't compare at all. Give me a break!! Who in their right mind would try to compare a 24K Camry to a 12K Elantra? If he was so happy with Toyota (owned 4 of them), than logic would say he would not take a chance on an "unreliable" Hyundai. There are just too many fishy details that brought me to say what I did. Sorry if I sounded harsh, but I have seen it many times before and his posts show all the classic signs.
As for the lemon law, I'm sorry to say it's not an easy undertaking. Besides, it would only be true in his case if he had repeated problems with the same thing, not multiple different problems. My sister has been trying to pursue the lemon law on her '00 Honda Odyssey since October. Here is a list of everything that has gone wrong with her wonderful Honda in a years time and 16K miles: AC compressor replaced due to a clunk on start-up, both front struts replaced to alleviate squeaking, all front suspension bushings replaced twice, battery replaced after only 6 months, complete steering rack replaced (a very expensive repair), driver's side power door motor replaced because it was running nonstop and would not fully close the door, latch sensor assembly for the sliding doors replaced twice, all 4 doors were misaligned and were sticking or rubbing. Now, her power doors are acting up again (refusing to open and operating extremely slowly). Needless to say, she obviously has a lemon, but the law defines a lemon as simply a repeated problem that the automaker has 4 attempts to fix properly before you can take any legal action. Most of her problems were fixed the first or second time, even though she has had way more problems than someone expects of a new car. Her only claim against Honda is their repeated but unsuccessful attempts to get rid of a terrible steering clunk heard and felt in turns. Her power doors may also now qualify. She is still fighting with Honda as we speak, trying to get them to replace her van or give her money back. Anyway, sorry for long post, but I thought you should know just how difficult it is to pursue the lemon law and how extremely limited it is.
I went to the NY Auto Show yesterday and saw three GLS models close-up. I got in, adjusted all the controls, tugged hard on the plastic panels, slammed doors, opened storage bins, etc. In general, I tried to be kind of "rough" with the interior bits and pieces (dealerships frown on this behavior) while at the auto show.
I can honestly report that the interior fit and finish of the Hyundai was, in most cases, equal to that of Honda and Toyota. I know this because I did the same rough-and-tumble act with the Civic and Corolla. The only area where the Hyundai lagged behind the others was in the fluidity of its switches and controls. The dials weren't rough in the Hyundai, just not quite up to the refinement of the Honda. However, I felt that the Hyundai's door panels would hold up longer. They have a heft that's missing from the Toyoata and Honda cars.
Obviously, I couldn't drive any of the cars but based on a careful interior and exterior inspection I can say that if you are in the market for a compact car, do yourself a favor and at least look at the Hyundai. Don't let the company's past cloud your judgement. It is clear that this Korean automaker has learned from its previous mistakes.
Let me say that I don't own a Hyundai. I am just impressed by what the company is offering. My wife and I were interested in the Elantra GT,but since it won't be available until late fall, the Elantra (and Sonata) has moved to the top of our list.
Happy motoring.
moledad125: My Elantra is Automatic transmission and has about same mileage as yours and it's doing same thing... But my Elantra starts at 2000 rpm only when the Engine is cold... Is yours always starts on 2000 rpm???
Another reason I didn't feel that elantra3(Mark S.) was a "Toyota Spy" was because of a good review he put in at the following link.
http://carreview.com/reviews/midsize_compacts/product_274.shtml
It has a list on page FL-6 showing possible causes for "Excessive Fuel Consumption".
The list in what they show as the check order is as follows:
1.Fuel Leak 2.Fuel Pressure Regulator 3.Accelerator pedal link 4.Clutch(M/T) 5.Brakes drag when pedal released 6.Spark plug 7.Compression 8.Piston Ring 9.Ignition timing 10.Injectors 11.ECT sensor circuit 12.TP sensor 13.MAF sensor 14.A/C circuit 15.Oxygen sensor circuit 16.Intake air temp sensor circuit 17.ECM
I would think it may also be possible to have a bad throttle body just as was for moledad125 in post #893.
Keep us posted on your success (or lack of) with the dealer resolving your car's problems.
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I noticed in my shop manual and verified a fuse location that is marked DRL.
On my Elantra this fuse location is not stuffed and it has a contact on only one side of the fuse slot.
I am asking because I would like to install this feature in my vehicle.
I put in the K & N air filter awhile back. It didn't do anything for the acceleration. But it really improved the gas mileage. Im doing 40mpg on the highway, around 33 in the city. I fill it once every 2 weeks. I commute 15 miles (each way) to college 4 days a week. I must of have gotten the "pick of the litter" because no one is getting as good gas mileage as I do. Over all, Im still continue to be satisfied with my elantra. Just polished it....looks brand new
One thing Browney forgot to mention about excessive fuel consumption is tire pressure plays a big role in it. Check your owners manual or on the drivers door to see what the PSI should be at. If your tires are low, then your fuel mileage will go down. If you over inflate your tires, your gas mileage will increase. However, you risk a blowout...and with the potholes in the Northeast from last winter, I wouldn't take the risk.