Older Honda Accords

grisoue · April 2001

Hi everybody,

Has anyone driven both the 4 cyl and the V6 in the snow? Is the traction control on the V6 of any use?

thanks

pat · April 2001

Hi folks,

Now that we have moved to our new platform, we no longer have the requirement to stop and restart discussions after the numbers of posts exceed a certain limit. To keep from confusing our newer members down the road, we are going through the discussion list bit by bit and dropping the "part" numbers associated with some of our extended discussions.

Since this will be the permanent home for discussion of the Accord, I have removed the "4" from the title of this discussion and altered the archived version to distinguish it from this one.

Please continue....

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jared1195 · April 2001

My wife is eyeing a 2000 Accord EX top of the range model with the leather package, ABS, wood paneling, sunroof, spoiler, Auto climate, auto trans but without CD. The dealer is offering it for U$20,500 cash. Is this a good deal or could i reduce it further? the price i mentioned is on par with the edmunds pricing. the only factor holding me from agreeing is the color which is white. The dealer is just as eager to get this model year out of the showroom. is it reasonable still to reduce to price to another grand? thanks

kira2 · April 2001

I am thinking of getting a new Accord sedan, and have heard that a re-design is in the works. However, I have heard conflicting dates, either it is coming for model year 2002 or 2003.

Does anyone have any information as to when it is coming, and what some of the changes will be?
Thanks

jrct9454 · April 2001

The next-generation Accord will be here in the fall of 2002 (15-16 mos. from now) as a 2003 model. Look for at least 170 hp out of the 4 cyl, and the V6 should go to 3.2 liters and around 215-220 hp. I was hoping for a 5-spd automatic, but that appears to be one more generation away - Honda wants to keep the upgraded automatic an Acura-exclusive for at least a little while longer. [It may get offered as a "mid-life" kicker in the middle of the next car's cycle, say model-year 2005.]

Otherwise, in addition to a new body, look for the usual incremental improvements: traction control on the 4 cyl cars, perhaps ABS on everything except the DX as std, same with side airbags. The new Altima [and new Camry, coming 4 months from now] will really raise the bar in this segment, and as usual, I expect Honda will do what is necessary with the next Accord to remain competitive. This is a great time to be in the market for a new car: there are a lot of great choices either here or coming soon, and the competition insures that prices will stay reasonable.

nofeer · April 2001

Will the new honda accord be bigger, especially in the back seat?

murocflyer · April 2001

jrct9454, you seem pretty knowledgable about the Accord, read this below and let me know what you have heard or think. Thanks, Frank

I have a '99 Accord EX with 38K miles on it that I purchased new. I perform all my own maintenance. Since I put so many miles on it, I usually change/replace all the fluids every spring, except for the oil and filter which I replace every 3,000 or less. Since I plan to keep this vehicle (actually have it longer than my loan is for) is there anything I need to be aware of in the long term, or any type of maintenance I should be doing to prevent any problems that have been encountered by someone? In other words, what should I do now to prevent my vehicle from breaking down, leaving my wife and 4 YO son stranded, or incur costly repairs. Any information you can pass along will be greatly appreciated.

ral2167 · April 2001

am getting an aftermarket keyless entry added to my 2001 accord LX coupe today-- was told that trunk release was not available since i guess they use a cable.... can anyone verify this?

hbund216 · April 2001

Accords are really strange in this feature. Yes they are operated by cable. I have a cable trunk release (from the inside) on my EX but also an electric remote release on my after market alarm system. I pretty sure the electric one came with Honda's remote doors feature for the EX and was integrated with my after market alarm. Maybe they can get the electronic actuator from honda (for the EX)and integrate it with the after market alarm on your LX.

good2359 · April 2001

Honda does make an electric trunk release, and I bought one for my 2001 LX sedan (I think about $30 on-line). I even specified 2001 on my order. But the box arrived with a big label that says do not use on 2001 models, as it would defeat the safety glo-in-the-dark trunk opener so that kids can escape if they become trapped inside.

The instructions that came with it even say "2001 Accord" on it, so I assume that it will work (I even verified that the pre-installed wiring in the trunklid exists). I haven't installed it. Since we have 3 kids, I think that I'll return the electric release. The kids love to play inside the car and its trunk. It's a favorite hide-and-seek location.

ral2167 · April 2001

just got back from having the aftermarket keyless entry installed-- they mentioned something about a trunk release, but also said it might be best to go with a honda trunk release, not an aftermarket.... i can do without the trunk release...

this aftermarket keyless i got, it automatically locks the doors when the car is started, and unlocks when engine is turned off.... plus the parking lights flash when the keyless is activated...didn't really need these features... i just wanted the basic keyless features--

asoccer7 · April 2001

Can somebody help me. I am 17 years old I have a cap on how much I can spend on a car 11K. I found a used 96 accord w/ tinted windows, moonroof, cd changer and spoiler with 89,000 miles and the guy was asking $10,000. I am sure I could get him down a little. I also found a 99 civic LX w/ a sound system and crapy wheels and only 14K miles for $11,000. Can somebody steer me in the right direction. Tell me if there is another good car for teenagers to drive. I am used to a super nice 1990 audi 100 so I don't have a clue thanks

raybear · April 2001

Looks like you're a sucker for options. The Civic is going to live longer than the Accord. Get practical and save some bucks on upcoming repairs on the Accord. I've always been afraid of tricked-out used cars, too many of them have been beaten on and the weasels who are reselling them are good at hiding mechanical problems.

enternamehere · April 2001

Is this a brand new 2000? First of all, don't buy a car if you don't like the color, you can probably shop around and get a brand new 2001 for the same $. Second, all 2000 Accord EX models have a factory CD, makes no sense that this one doesn't have one.

enternamehere · April 2001

Price is too high on the Accord (TMV suggests $9,300) and the Civic price seems pretty good. Either of these cars a good reliable cars, but I agree with raybear and would not purchase any tricked out car. Since the Accord is larger and hopefully safer than the Civic I would recommend that you keep shopping around and you may find a '96 Accord with lower mileage from an original owner that has been used as a commuter vehicle for about the same price. Have you checked the TMV on this site, it shoul dgive you some bargaining power. Good luck!

newbie5 · April 2001

Any existing on 2001 Accord? I'm interested in an LX V6. Thanks much for your repliy.

riptide · April 2001

Is it just me, or do the bumpers on the latest-generation Accords chip/scratch too easily? I have a '99 4-door (Heather Mist color), and I've noticed that about my bumpers. In the past 4 months my car got bumped twice in the parking lot (both times without me being around, I only discovered the consequences later), which has left both my front and my rear bumper scratched. The scratches are not that big, but the black plastic clearly shows through. Does anyone know of an economical way to fix it? I suppose I could report it to my insurance, but with a $500 deductible it will not be worth it. Any suggestions will be appreciated. Oh, I tried the touch-up paint, but it doesn't work too well on bumpers -- it seems that the black background is too dark.

timadams · April 2001

ral: I have an aftermarket remote lock and trunk release installed on my 98 Accord. It works just like you described (locks when the car starts, unlocks when I shut off the engine, one parking light flash to lock, two parking light flashes to unlock). The trunk release is handled by a gizmo that pulls on the trunk cable release when I press the proper remote button. It pulls on the same cable that goes to the trunk release in the cabin. The cable "puller" is a can-shaped thing attached to the trunk lid, with a cable that is attached to the trunk release cable and gives it a tug when you push the remote button. I'm not sure why this would defeat the child trunk release, but I haven't looked at one of the new ones with that feature. It doesn't look as nice as the factory trunk release, but it works fine.

sflora · April 2001

I believe you need to put some primer on the scratches before applying the touch-up paint. Primer is a neutral color and won't show through.

phkck · April 2001

the only incentives on Accord are 3.9, 4.9 & 5.9 financing for 36, 48 and 60 month financing.
Plus it seems most are negotiating for just above invoice.

isellhondas · April 2001

Where did you get the idea that a Civic will "live longer" than an Accord?

I've never seen or heard anything that would support that.

I would agree with the rest of your advise to that potential buyer though.

raybear · April 2001

I recommended the Civic based on the mileage, that's why I figure it'll outlast the Accord.

good2359 · April 2001

Unfortunately the Honda electric trunk release part replaces the entire latching assembly, so it eliminates the safety opener too. I like the idea of an aftermarket opener that attaches to the cable - I'll have to look for one of these. I have the Honda (optional) security system in my LX V6, but I'm sure that an aftermarket opener could be attached using the existing wiring. Anybody know of an on-line place to buy?

pjyoung · April 2001

We are just starting to look for a new car for my wife and are considering the EX-V6 with leather. Does this car use regular or premium gas? Dumb question, but hey, with gas approaching $2 a gallon for regular, it can make a difference. Thanks in advance for any info.

raybear · April 2001

Is just fine.

isellhondas · April 2001

I misunderstood...sorry.

And, yeah, premium is a waste of money.

sobers · April 2001

Please check the carfax report on that one.
I have not seen such a low price on 99 Civic Lx around here. There seems to be catch...& yes used Accords are pricey..thats the great thing about them....resale is too good !! You will also get a healthy chunk of money back even when you have 130-150 K miles in it !!

beross · April 2001

I am surprised that you wrote the next generation accord will be a model 2003 released in the fall of 2002.

Has Honda changed policy?

Honda has always had a four year cycle with the Accord for the last several generations. (Nissan has a five cycle with the Maxima and Toyota has a three year with the Camry) The last full one being 94,95,96,97. The current generation started in 98 and unless Honda has changed policy it will include 99, 00 and 01. Thus the new generation would be model year 2002.

One thing that I know is confusing is that the V6 and V4 have been introduced at different times for the same generation. More significantly is that new generations of the coupe have been introduced six months or close to a year after the introduction of the sedan. For example the 94 sedan was available in fall 93 but the coupe 94 was not in showrooms until Jan/Feb of 94. I think a similar thing happened with the 98/99 sedan/coupe models and thier introductions. Is it possible that the longer date is for the coupe?

Thanks

dchopp · April 2001

My 2000 Honda Accord has 15k miles. My front end started to shake and I took it in for a 4 wheel alignment and a tire balance check. Everything was in spec.but the tire dealer noticed abnormal wear on the tires with some rubber separation. Had to take them back to the local Michlen dealer (Sears) and he said that was the third car in this week with defective Michlen Tires. Michlen prorated them and they would only give me 65%. If you have Michlen tires on your Accord, Check them for abnormal wear and then complain if you do. They do not plan to do any recalling.

fsu96 · April 2001

Does anybody know when we will hear officially from Honda what changes to expect in the 2002 Accords. I've read a lot of people speculate, but nothing officially. Will we not know until the show up at the dealer or will Honda make some official announcement similar to the way Nissan made a big deal over the Altima.

The reason I'm asking is I'm holding out hope that perhaps the 2002 Accords will have memory seat location on the EX model. My wife is 5' tall and I'm 6'2". Memory seat location is a really important feature to us...especially me!

I would appreciate it if anybody had any info on this.

achenator · April 2001

That is the only thing I wish my 2001 Ex had!
Memory drivers' seat. My 87 benz had it. You would think that with all of it's infinite wisdom, Honda would have caught on to that by now!

carguy62 · April 2001

Honda has changed to a five year cycle (at least for the Civic and Accord). Previous Civic came out in '96, new one in '01. New Accord will be in '03. Also don't think the Camry has a three year cycle.

Regarding '02, I would expect an SE which they usually do at the end of a model's run, but then again just like the five year cycle they've changed things a bit and have offered an SE sooner.

beross · April 2001

Thanks for the update. I must admit I am disappointed to learn the next generation of accord will not be out until fall 2002.

I have a 95 Accord and have been putting off replacing it since last summer waiting until this fall expecting a new version. Unfortunitly, waiting another 16 months is not very appealing. It is a high millage car and I am not sure I want to put the money into the car to make it though another winter to just sell it next year. So now I can plan according to what will be available this year.

As far as the other cycle times. I am sure Nissan has a five year on the Maxima (I have had those cars also and follow the new models.) I must admit I got the three year cycle second hand from my girlfriend. She tells me she leases Camrys at three year intervals to coincide the new versions. But since this a Honda Accord site I am not going to lose sleep if it is not three years.

sobers · April 2001

beross : Almost everything you wrote in ur first post was wrong. Camry is now on 5 year cycle. Last one came out in MY97 now MY2002. Accord MY98 so MY2003 will be the new one.

Civic last redesign was 96 so it is also on 5 year cycle.

rls9 · April 2001

So how does everyone feel about the once a year oil change for the 2001's? My dealer said that they still recommend that I come in every 3000 miles or so. What has been everyone else's experience?

arnols · April 2001

Whatever the marketing pitch, I still change the oil every 3500 miles on my EX 2001. $25 every 2 months won't kill me, but not doing it might kill my car (I drive a lot). I did that with all my previous Hondas (it was Civics though) and never had any problems.
My $0.02
Arnols

stscott3 · April 2001

Honda typically does a facelift in the middle of the accord cycle. For MY2001(MY=Model Year), the tail lights are the most obvious change, plus the front grille. These facelifts typically only involve plastic and rubber, and not metal panels. So, I would expect MY2002 to be exactly the same body as MY2001, allowing Honda to amortize the facelift cost over 24 months of production. Look for the next generation Accord in the fall of 2002 as MY2003 starts production.

talon95 · April 2001

Major redesigns for the Camry are also on a 5-year cycle.

At least the past 2 (and possibly the last 3) generations of Camry have been on a 5-year cycle... 92, 93, 94, 95, 96 for the LS400-look version, and 97, 98, 99, 00, 01 for the current version, with the next generation debuting for the 2002 model year.

It seems that with the Camry and Accord, both Toyota and Honda have established a similar progression through a model's lifetime. The new version is introduced and goes 3 model years with only very minor changes. The 4th model year features a styling refresh (usually new grille and taillights) and the "refreshed" version continues pretty much unchanged through the 5th and final model year for that generation.

carguy62 · April 2001

Why are you worrying so much? I drive a 12 year old Accord and don't worry about its reliability. If you want a new vehicle there's absolutely nothing wrong with buying the current Accord. It's design has been honed for the last 3 plus years and it's probably the best time to buy. Sure the new one will be out a year or so after you purchase but you can't let that worry you. They are always doing something to cars, it's almost like computers.

canadiancl · April 2001

I mean, unless you schedule your trade-ins to coincide with every model changeover, you will at some point during your ownership period be driving an "out-dated" model (for lack of a better term). In fact, a Honda service advisor that I used to deal with said when he buys a car, he ALWAYS wait until the last year of the cycle because then he would be getting the best of the breed. That's probably a little extreme but there is some wisdom there.

sobers · April 2001

don't do any radical changes in teh design. It is always a evolution. So you don't have to worry about model bebing changed too much. New model might not apeal as current model to YOU.

Look at civic, there are very monir changes between 2000/2001 major redsign. Evn if you bought second-last year model (life 2001) & the new one is far too good for you, you can trade-in after 3/4 years to get a better deal & car.

There are many guys out there scared of buying first year (atkeast first few months) production, even from Honda/Toyota !!

rmscs · April 2001

I just had a Drawtite Hitch installed on my 2001 Accord (mainly to use a receiver mount bike rack). I purchased the T-One electrical connecter to fit the Honda Wiring Harness. It appears that the Honda (car side)Connecter has no power but the lights work fine.

Am I missing something simple here. If so, let me know- I'd love to avoid a trip back to the dealer.

Also, if the are other/better Honda sites for this kind of thing I would like to know about them.

Thanks in advance

canadiancl · April 2001

ever tried the spellcheck? Your post looks like you are not what your name suggests.

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wishbone2001 · April 2001

Do you think Honda will change the Accord Coupe in 2002 before changing the Sedan for 2003?

cbr4 · April 2001

Anyone purchased a 2001 Honda Accord Sedan in amarch or April in the Chicagoland area? Which dealership offered you the lowest price?

talon95 · April 2001

Honda hasn't shown any precedent for changing these 2 related models at different times... I think it's a safe bet that both the sedan and coupe will be changed at the same time in MY2003.

jrct9454 · April 2001

I've been away for a few days, and am just getting caught up on the last 40 posts. To Muroc, you are doing more than enough to ensure that the car will give you its maximum trouble-free service life. There are no guarantees in life, and certainly not when it comes to mechanical devices, but you've picked the one car that gives you the best chance...and the mtc. sched. you're following is conservative.

On the new model[s]: yes, as mentioned by several others, both the Camry and Accord are on 5-year cycles these days. I also agree that coupe and sedan will be announced together, and there will not again be a separation between the availablity of the 4 and 6. This only happened on the previous generation car because it was, after all, the first availability of any 6cyl in the Accord. When the current car came out in late '97 as a '98 model, both engines and both bodies were available within a few weeks of initial announcement. And no, I would not hold my breath waiting for memory seats on any Accord - remember, Honda needs to keep some features exclusive to Acura.

The most important change for the 2003 car [aside from the restyling] is going to be in the engine compartment: Honda has already developed more powerful, cleaner-burning VTEC technology that will gradually be rolled out across the board, from the Civic on up. To get some idea of the power available from the new designs, look at the new Acura RS coupe [nee: Integra replacement], which in its tamest form will be producing 160 hp from 2 liters. Using regular gas in the Honda line requires them to back off a little [premium is considered OK for Acura, but not for most Hondas...marketing, you know], but I would still look for AT LEAST 170 hp in the next-gen 4 cyl Accord, and would not be shocked if they manage a few more. The V6 will go to 3.2 liters [same dimensions as the Acura TL/CL] and with the new heads, who knows...220 hp at least, maybe more?

jimxo · April 2001

I have a web site that is helpful to keep up with the future Japanese production. www.mag-x.com

Check it out!

sweeneyj · April 2001

I'm thinking of buying an Accord EX and want to get it for as close to invoice as possible. Any suggestions on which dealers offer the best prices? I am certainly willing to travel the East Coast to get a better deal.

surfing19 · April 2001

Hey Does anyone know when the 2002 Accord should be release, and what changes if any it may have.

I use to have a 1998 Accord EX, and I love it, but it had so many problems with the car, so I sold it right after the warranty went up. Since then, I have been driving a 2001 Nissan Altima, which doesn't compare to the Honda since of style. I am debating rather to get a 2002 Nissan Altima v6, or a 2002 Accord EX-v6.

Any Suggestions on either one will be helpful.

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