Older Honda Accords

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  • proeyproey Member Posts: 1
    my invoice states what brand oil, as well as the reminder sticker they put on the upper left hand corner of the inside windshield
  • auntieshoesauntieshoes Member Posts: 14
    I bought the blue 04 4 door sedan with the 4 cylinder engine on Friday. I am very happy with the car so far. I remember reading a while back about buying an extended warranty from a dealer other than where I bought the car.

    The warranty they offered me was 7 years, I think, and was more than $1600. And they sprung it on me after I had closed the deal and was already a bit overwhelmed by the big purchase I was making.

    In fact they "offered" me the following:
    $420 for all oil changes, inspections and tire rotations for 36K (at every 3000 for oil changes).
    $799 for LoJack
    $499 for a policy that pays $5000 if the car is stolen and not recovered - with already engraved window numbers
    $299 tire warranty for road hazards
    and the
    $1600 extended warranty.
    That is more than $3600 in extras. I turned them all down. Any thoughts on whether that was right or wrong.

    Any info on where to purchase a more affordable but reliable extended warranty?

    By the way, on my first fill I got more than 27 MPG with about 1/2 of the miles in the city. And I like the rear spoilers, but it was not on the car when I bought it and have other things to spend my money on.
  • gregoryc1gregoryc1 Member Posts: 764
    You should be able to get an extended Honda warranty for 7 years / 100,000 miles for less than $1,000 dollars. We purchased this warranty on my wife's 2004 Honda Civic for $975.00. Go to another Honda dealer.
  • bd21bd21 Member Posts: 437
    You bought a very dependable car and you don't need any of those maintenance/service options or an extended warranty. Those are all cash cows for the dealer. Just follow the severe maintenance schedual that is printed in your manual regardless of your driving habits and you will be fine. Keep all receipts and you don't even have to pay the high dealer prices to have any of the book maintenance done. Any good independent shop can do it for a lot less. Honda dealers like to do more than the book requires and that means you pay a lot for unnecessary maintenance. Also, you can buy a tire warranty from any major tire dealer for under $50 bucks that will give you lifetime tire rotations. If you can't sleep without an extended warranty, it can be bought from any Honda dealer prior to 3 years or 36,000 miles. The best going rate is $795 for a 7 year/100,000 mile bumper to bumper coverage. Again though, the odds are against you ever getting your money worth from this warranty. Congrats on you new car!
  • sockpuppet1969sockpuppet1969 Member Posts: 308
    I bought the Accord so that I do not have to pay hundreds (no less thousands) in repair costs. Although your $2000 in extended warranties may give you piece of mind, odds are that is all they will do. I just hope when 7years/100,000 miles rolls around that you post a message stating how they were a waste of money.
  • stacey_burkestacey_burke Member Posts: 88
    Where did you find the rate of 795 for 7years and 100,000. The best I could find is 100 more. Thanks for the info.
  • atlantabennyatlantabenny Member Posts: 735
    First 3 years / 36k miles: The Accord has the best possible warranty - the one from the factory that comes free with the car.

    An extended warranty bought at purchase duplicates the factory warranty, except that it probably:

    1) requires a deductible, where the factory warranty doesn't ( ! )
    2) provides a rental car. For $900 to $1000 extra, it should. That's 45 days of rental. What are the chances of an Accord being out of commission that long during its first 3 years / 36k miles ?

    At or before 3 years / 34k miles: Get the exended warrranty if still desired. It'll still be in the neighborhood of $800. Most providers will cover the car only if it's still within the last 1.5k miles of the factory warranty or before 36 mos.
  • bd21bd21 Member Posts: 437
    Try Dick Brooks Honda. They had the best prices a while back for Honda extended warranties. Again, as a mechanic and an owner of two Hondas, I personally think buying an extended warranty is a waste of money.
  • gregoryc1gregoryc1 Member Posts: 764
    Don't purchase it, if you don't like it! When your transmission goes after 3 years or 36,000 miles, you pay the bill! Don't ask Honda for any help!
  • gregoryc1gregoryc1 Member Posts: 764
    I can drive all over the United States, and not worry about the cost of a major repair. (Transmissions run between $3,000 and $6,000 dollars). Extended warranties are cheap. That to me, is peace of mind. If I reach 7 years or 100,000 miles, and I have not used the warranty that is "ok" with me. But, I know that within 100,000 miles, I will replace an alternator and / or an AC compressor. Those two items will pay for the cost of the extended warranty. When this vehicle has 95,000 miles on the clock, I will trade it to the dealer, and probably purchase a new or a late model used Honda, and start the process again. The cost of an extended warranty, is just part of the monthly payment. A waste of money would be spending $2000.00 dollars on beer or cigarettes.
  • rcc8179rcc8179 Member Posts: 131
    Extended warranties are generally a moneymaker for the warranty company and dealer. They are designed so that the average payout per policy is about half what the customer paid. So if you pay $1000 for a warranty, on average you will receive $500 worth of paid repairs. Think about it--if the warranty company constantly was paying out more than they were charging, they would go out of business.

    Sure, you will hear about someone who paid $1000 for an extended warranty and had $5000 worth of repairs covered (10x the average). But for every one of these people, 9 more received nothing back for their money.

    Personally, I bought a Honda because I believe they are unlikely to have any significant problems before 100k miles. My 1989 Accord that I traded for my 2003 had 215k miles and still had its original transmission, alternator, and starter, and the A/C compressor lasted 150k miles (10 years). I don't believe I will have to replace any of these before 100k miles.

    If the peace of mind is worth the money, it is certainly your right and your choice to purchase the warranty. But from a purely statistical and financial standpoint, it is not to your advantage. Some people bet that they WILL have problems; I bet that I WON'T.
  • gregoryc1gregoryc1 Member Posts: 764
    QUESTIONS: -----Do you have life insurance?----If the answer to this question is "YES", ---Why did you purchase this insurance? ---Answer: ----You are betting that you will die at some point in time, and you want to protect someone financially. Those of us with extended warranties are betting that something will fail in the vehicle before a given mileage and / or time, and we want to protect ourselves from a large repair bill,---(EXAMPLE: ---a transmission). Yes, the companies do make a profit on this coverage. I do not care about their profit, I care about a large repair bill.
  • lmacmillmacmil Member Posts: 1,758
    One buys life insurance to protect one's family in case of a life altering event. A failed transmission could hardly be called a life altering event. In any case, this is a silly debate. If you are comforted by that extended warranty, by all means, buy it. For most people, it's not money well spent.
  • chucko3chucko3 Member Posts: 793
    I would opt for 7yrs/100k EW. This should cost around $1000.
    I know some people think it's a waste of money, but for me it's a peace of mind.
    Parts do fail pre-maturely sometime. And labor cost is expensive these days.
  • jbbw20jbbw20 Member Posts: 38
    Maxamillion: Your insurance rates are not only affected by idiot teen drunks but also by post teen idiot drunks. Teenagers do not have a monoply on the idiot factor (confirmed by a Canadian MP in a recent interview). Insurance rates are also greatly affected by the vehicle rating, the Accord being in the moderate to low range and many of the so called American models ie DC products are in the high range.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,700
    What DC models have higher ratings in the actuaries?

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • sockpuppet1969sockpuppet1969 Member Posts: 308
    That you purchase an extended warrantee on all your cars makes it even less likely that you will get your moneys worth. Over time, the cost of any catestrophic equipment failure is very unlikely to be more than the total of the extended warranties that you have purchased over the years. All you are really buying is piece of mind. As long as you realize this, go ahead and be happy. You can probably find someone to sell you an extended warrantee on every item that you own, not just your cars.
  • richards38richards38 Member Posts: 606
    As a general rule, it makes little sense to insure anything that is affordable to replace. So, an extended warranty on a $300 digital camera is likely to be unwise because most people can afford to replace a camera without insurance.

    Health insurance is (or should be) mandatory because medical bills can bankrupt all but the wealthiest people. Same is true for insuring against other major catastrophes like title insurance, fire, etc.

    Peace of mind does matter--I paid $168 for trip cancellation, etc. insurance for a trip to China last month. I can afford the loss of the trip's cost, but I wanted to eliminate any worries prior to and during the trip. It was a psychological decision, certainly not an economic one.

    If you feel better about buying a warranty, the freedom from anxiety can only prolong your life.
    I didn't buy an extended warranty for my '04 Accord EX-L because I thought I was buying a car that wouldn't need major mechanical work while I owned it. I could be mistaken and in any case can afford to make repairs if needed when the car's 3 year warranty expires.......Richard
  • justinjustin Member Posts: 1,918
    ...while the perception is that Honda's don't break, of course they do. an extended warranty can't be the WORST idea out there. i would buy one just before the regular warranty ends though. that way you know for sure if the problems you have while under the factory warranty didn't scare you away from keeping it for the long haul. i mean, a warranty could save you money, but it can't save you time and aggravation, right? why loan someone your money for 3 years if you decide to dump the car within that 3 years?

    be sure to buy it from Honda or your credit union. the others seem to go out of business or have too many "catches"...
  • jbbw20jbbw20 Member Posts: 38
    GROUP RATINGS
    examples
    2004 Bare Bones Intrepid group 24
    2004 Intrepid ES group 26
    2004 Honda Accord LX V6 group 20
    2004 Honda Accord bare bonesgroup 18
    2004 Chrysler Sebring LX group 22
    2004 Chrysler 300 group 26

    The larger the amount of a particular vehicle sold will usually lower the loss ratio thus will lower the premium.
  • bamacarbamacar Member Posts: 749
    According to State Farm only the Pilot, Odyssey, CRV, and Element are below average on Insurance premiums. The Accord 4door is average. All of the other models including Accord 2door, all Civics, Insight, and S2000 have higher than average premiums.

    Actually, here it appears that DC and Toyota are about the same as Honda. Ford/GM appear to be somewhat less costly on insurance than Honda.
  • gregoryc1gregoryc1 Member Posts: 764
    You are correct! An engine or a transmission failure after the original 3 year / 36,000 mile warranty could be very expensive.
  • carguy04carguy04 Member Posts: 22
    I was quite interested to read your info about State Farm Insurance rates on various Honda models. Maybe I should switch to State Farm when I buy my Accord sometime in the next few months. I have Farmers Insurance, and have been in the market for a new Accord for awhile now. My agent tells me that my rate will be $1000 a year for any Accord model, no matter whether it is the sedan or coupe, or 4cyl or V6. So no matter whether I bought the LX sedan or the EX V6 coupe 6 speed, my rates would be the same, which doesn't make sense to me. I live in Colorado, and have no tickets, no accidents and no claims. I would also have to raise my deductible to $1000 a year in order to have the $1000 yearly rate. Then again, I did some research and discovered the Accord is the #1 stolen car in Colorado, so that factors into their rates, too.
  • maxamillion1maxamillion1 Member Posts: 1,467
    I went out to Piedmont Honda in Anderson tonight to check out the Accord.

    There was only ONE Accord available...an LX in Satin Silver.

    Impressions:

    The new wheel covers are nicer

    The taillights really don't look that much different...all red with the reverse indicator in white

    that's about it...

    After looking at some of the 04 EX and EXV6 models, I kind of wish I had gotten an EXV6 instead of my Altima :(...

    Oh well, after I finish college, I will buy one.
  • mnfmnf Member Posts: 405
    On my first Honda after I sold it I received most of my money back on my warranty but never used it Your right to a point but even Hondas can fall in to a glitch of trouble. Take the transmission issues on 2000-2003 Accords there were alot of people with bad trannys after the 3 year factory ran out that were not covered. Hondas are great cars (owned three of them) but even they are built by humans. But your odds are better with them than many of other major brands but it is a choice to purchase a warranty some times it pays.
  • richards38richards38 Member Posts: 606
    That '05 Accord LX also has standard, side curtain airbags which were not available on LXs previously. That's a big plus IMO........Richard
  • filodfilod Member Posts: 189
    but curious to know if the alarm system can be turn off?
  • maxamillion1maxamillion1 Member Posts: 1,467
    I was talking about EXTERIOR wise...actually. I failed to mention that in my post though..

    Look at what time it was when I posted it..

    LOL
  • maxamillion1maxamillion1 Member Posts: 1,467
    I thought they did as well for 05?
  • filodfilod Member Posts: 189
    Accord outsold Camry in August (YTD Camry is still on top of the 5 vehicles below, of course including fleet sales)

    August sales data
    Accord 37,878
    Camry 35,612
    Altima 20,182
    Mazda 6 5,575

    Maxima 6,146

    So maybe people are starting to grow on the looks of the Accord? I have always liked the way it looks though

    Maybe I am in the minority because I liked the Maxima too (I own a V6 Accord by the way) and it looks like it is not doing well?
  • lmacmillmacmil Member Posts: 1,758
    I am one who am getting used to the rear end of the Accord sedan. It took a long time and maybe it's just because I see so many of them. Not a great look but acceptable. OTOH, I like the new Maxima even though it is pretty radical by sedan standards.

    I think the Maxima sales problem is due to the Altima on the low side and the Infiniti G35 on the high side. The Altima is arguably better looking and has plenty of room and a great engine. Now that the interior has been improved, I'm sure few people see the need to spend $4000 or so more for a Maxima. You can get a G35 for not much more.

    The Accord is a great value if one can be past the rear end.
  • jmaxejmaxe Member Posts: 198
    I've managed to avoid looking at the rear end of my '04 Ex V6 while I'm driving it so I have no problem with the appearance whatsoever.
  • talon95talon95 Member Posts: 1,110
    ... and I have to agree with the opinion that they look better in pictures. It's just too much plain red plastic, with no lines or texture for visual relief. I still like my 2003 better. It's not my favorite part of the car, but it's still fine with me.
  • dudleyrdudleyr Member Posts: 3,469
    Yellow turn signals look better and are safer.
  • synpthesissynpthesis Member Posts: 28
    I continue to wonder why it is acceptable to call people idiots. Especially when you disagree with their position(s).

    That aside I took another look at the 04 Accord again today but find it difficult to get past the design of the lights (front and rear).
    The Ralliart and XRS are my current options. Nothing fantastic but nothing that looks disappointing either. To get 4w disc brakes and a sunroof in the Accord you need to get the EX-L (a slower and more expensive car).
    I am confused by Honda's assessment of the current market, yet must admit that they are selling more cars.
  • lmacmillmacmil Member Posts: 1,758
    I think people are willing to accept (subjectively) less appealing looks for an overall package that is on balance more appealing than the competition. A place on Car & Driver's top 10 list and a Motor Trend description that calls it an almost perfect family sedan can overcome the exterior design shortcomings for a lot of people.
  • gee35coupegee35coupe Member Posts: 3,387
    I don't think Honda will have problems finding about 2 million people that find the Accord quite fetching. They are selling quite well new and used.

    I mean, I don't find the Altima all that nice and the 350Z's interior makes the whole car look bad. But most reviewers like it.
  • emaleemale Member Posts: 1,380
    guys,

    i'm doing an informal poll...how many of you have received your recall notice on the automatic tranny? and if you did, are you leasing or buying your accord? i'm just wondering if honda is recalling bought accords first...cause i haven't heard boo about this from honda yet...
  • chucko3chucko3 Member Posts: 793
    Still not yet received the notice.
    Will call them in a few days.
    Bought my 03EXV6 in Nov 2002.
  • blackexv6blackexv6 Member Posts: 503
    I didn't receive my notice yet either but I made an appointment anyway. You can check your VIN on the Honda website to see if yours is part of the recall. I bought my '03EXV6 in OCT '02. I now have 30k on the car.

    I also have quite a laundry list in addition to the tranny recall:
    1. Door seals squeeking again
    2. Front brakes shuttering
    3. Driver door (internal vibration)
    4. Center console door rattling
    5. Steering column rattle
    6. Rear deck vibration
    7. Front end alignment

    Anyone else have this many rattles?
  • chucko3chucko3 Member Posts: 793
    Very much all 03EXV6s are on the the recall list.

    Mine doesn't have a single rattle.
  • whitecloud1whitecloud1 Member Posts: 268
    My '03 Coupe sounds/feels tight. I only have less than 9K on it though. I posted previously about the tranny recall. You don't have to wait, but if I hadn't gone to the Honda site, I wouldn't know about the recall for my vehicle. I was told by the customer service rep to contact a dealer and get the fix.
  • talon95talon95 Member Posts: 1,110
    I haven't received my notice either. But I'm not in any hurry... I figure let them get the bugs out of the process and then I'll take mine in. But if I don't get a letter by the end of the month, I'm going to call. It's a 2003 EX V6 sedan purchased in March, 2003.

    BTW, no rattles... just about to turn 20,000 miles.
  • emaleemale Member Posts: 1,380
    my '03 coupe was leased in march '03 and i've heard absolutely nothing. car has about 20k miles on it...

    as for rattles...i still have a headliner rattle up around the map lights...the glove box door sometimes rattles. there is also a come and go rattle somewhere in the dash...

    btw, there are tsbs out on the rear deck rattle and center console door rattle.
  • maxpower02maxpower02 Member Posts: 103
    called my dealer for an appointment. Claimed they were not doing recall work until October(???) Anyway, car will go in for recall work on 10/1. Car was manufactured 11/02. I think they are using vin# or manufacture date for recall notice. Guess they can't recall all at one time!!
  • filodfilod Member Posts: 189
    Got my notice Saturday 9-4-04. Accord V6-L bought May 2003.

    The car was updated though even before I got the notice - called my dealer told them I am going on a long trip (which was not a lie) and set up an appointment for me (that was a month ago)
  • snakehairsnakehair Member Posts: 120
    Bought my 03 V6 in June' 03 and had the recall from Honda about 10 days ago. Have appointment with dealer for Friday, 9/10. Have 15.5K on the car so it will get picture taken before adding the injection kit or replacing the tranny. So far, anecdotal evidence is that no damage short of 60K miles is the norm.
  • justinjustin Member Posts: 1,918
    if you get the front driver door rattle fixed, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let me know what the dealer did to fix it.

    thank you very much!

    no recall notice here either. but my 2003 EX-V6 was built in July 03, purchased in 9/03, so i bet i will be last in the cycle. my car is part of the recall per the website.
  • chucko3chucko3 Member Posts: 793
    Got the recall notice yesterday.
    The next available repair date is mid Oct.
    It's OK with me. I will have a loaner for the repair.
  • jd45jd45 Member Posts: 4
    I received my recall notice on 9-4-04.I am leasing a 2003 ex v6.I leased the car in dec. 02.I am hoping somebody can explain in detail how difficult the oil kit is to install.I have little trust in the dealers in this area,they never answer any of my questions directly,always acting in the dark on every topic, when I have been able to get the answers on this forum easily.I also have the rattle on the front passenger door towards the top of the window.I love how smooth my transmission is and if history repeats itself the car is never the same when you pick it up from the dealer. So. CALIF.
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