Older Honda Accords

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  • msisengmsiseng Member Posts: 369
    Known issues are limited to small things like road noise, painted bumpers that scratch easliy, the nav system not interpreting voice commands and misalignment of the cars off the assembly line. Some of the Michelin Tires on the EX have radial pull because they used a Heavy Load tire for some strange reason? Maybe Honda received a good discount on these because the tires are made for trucks or SUVs? If someone could reply with the reason this would be great!

    Alignment issues are prevalent with other brands, but are rare for Honda. Something about the '06 EX Model is different according to two service managers I spoke with. For instance, most Ford Mustangs need alignments are part of the dealer preparation package. Most Hondas do not need this, except for the EX.

    Most dealers will fix the alignment before you take delivery. Road noise is a non-issue to me, but it bothers a lot of people who post. If it bothers you then buy the Camry or get low profile performance tires like the Michelin Pilot Sports which are rated one of the the best on the road by numerous sources. I swear by these tires.
  • jhinscjhinsc Member Posts: 399
    Get your insurance company to go to bat for you. Would they want to insure a car that's been that badly damaged and repaired? What's their policy for totaling a car - I bet it's lower than 70%. It doesn't make sense because when you add the diminished value, assuming your state of residence allows it, it would be greater than 70% in total.
  • avianfluavianflu Member Posts: 33
    Dealer quoted $47.50 ea replacement and $86 for programing. Unfortunately we are now down to one valet key. Google search came up with a UK source. Any ideas?

    Thanks
    Bob
    Houston TX
  • carlglover1carlglover1 Member Posts: 5
    I brought it up because it's true. People perceive noise differently. Scientific studies as well as personal experience consistently show this. It is amply demonstrated in the various opinions on the subject in this forum. As one of the writers said, "It's obvious." And so it is.
  • mrbill1957mrbill1957 Member Posts: 823
    Take a look at this.

    http://www.collegehillshonda.com/artman/publish/article_53.shtml

    The way I see it, get the key, have it cut, but save the $86 by programming it yourself.

    Mrbill
  • suvtimesuvtime Member Posts: 58
    Overall Accords are very solid vehicles with a better than average reliability record. That said, all cars and trucks can have their issues. The V6 Accords did have some transmission problems when they were redesigned in 2003. Honda did a recall for this and its not much of a problem anymore.

    By the way your wrong when you say all Pilots have vibrating steering wheels over 70 mph. My 2003 Pilot is rock solid and has no vibration in the steering wheel no matter what speed I drive.
  • beedublubeedublu Member Posts: 236
    [This is not a flame, just an opinion]

    I haven't been paying too much attention to the Accord these past few years, having been swayed by my GM card to settle for an 04 Malibu (which hasn't been too bad, actually). ;)

    What I remember back when I was visiting this forum regularly was all the debate over the 03 and 04 Accord's styling -- the taillights in particular. The complaint was always something like "It looks too Buick-like".

    Okay, they went and changed the taillights. And everytime I am following what I think is a 2000 era Taurus...it turns out to be a new, restyled Accord! :surprise:

    Sorry, but IMHO they should have stuck with the Buick look. No offense to 06 Accord owners, but this current version -- nice looking as it might be -- isn't as distinctive as its predessor.
  • cal_calcal_cal Member Posts: 39
    I agree. I have a 2005 Accord Hybrid and its butt looks much nicer and more distinctive, especially with the little decklid spoiler, than the 2006 Accords. The '06 butt is too boring and its LED tailights look garish.
  • master1master1 Member Posts: 340
    May I ask, how many miles do you have on your Pilot? I am weary to buy it because there are NUMEROUS complaints about it on the Pilot Problems & Solutions page.
  • master1master1 Member Posts: 340
    The 06 Hybrid Accord has decent looking rear lights. The signal lense is white and has a yellow bulb. Yellow signals are better for visibility = safety. I don't think LED's are necessary for a Honda Accord - what's wrong with regular lights?
  • tallman1tallman1 Member Posts: 1,874
    That's the fun thing about opinions... they are very personal. I love the new tail, LED lights and the center brake light on the trunk. :)
  • scs111scs111 Member Posts: 22
    Actually, Edmunds values the car at $19,028 not counting any value for the Honda spoiler. The good news is the body shop is doing a "tear down" and has come up with a new total of approximately $13,500 for the repairs. I've contacted an outfit in Atlanta that will write a diminished value report for $199. They say that 98% of the time, the insurance company will total the car based on their report if the total cost, including rental and diminished value, exceeds 75% of the value. :sick:
  • thegraduatethegraduate Member Posts: 9,731
    I don't think LED's are necessary for a Honda Accord - what's wrong with regular lights?

    The same case could be said for a lot of things like that...Auto-off headlights, High-intensity discharge headlights...they do little to enhance the driving experience, but are just "nice touches". LEDs actually last MUCH longer than standard bulbs (in the range of 15-20 years) and light much faster than a filament bulb (increased safety). They are also brighter/more brilliant, just like your yellow blinkers. They also add an upscale touch to the car. I also prefer yellow signals (I have them on my 96 Accord), but its a tiny matter to me.
  • suvtimesuvtime Member Posts: 58
    I have about 75,000 km on my Pilot now
  • cal_calcal_cal Member Posts: 39
    I'd prefer yellow turn lights too but there was no choice with the 2005 HAH. I dislike red turn lights, kinda feels like the car companies are trying to cut too many corners
  • scs111scs111 Member Posts: 22
    I received word from the insurance company that they totaled my car. I received a lot of advise from an outfit in Atlanta that specializes in helping people collect for diminished value. They were great!! :)
  • gee35coupegee35coupe Member Posts: 3,387
    for it. Don't let em gyp you.
  • scs111scs111 Member Posts: 22
    They're paying me $20,686.74 for a car that I paid $20,700 for 3 years ago. That's a great testament to Honda's residual value!! :D
  • gee35coupegee35coupe Member Posts: 3,387
    That's nice. What are you going to buy next? My wife and I discussed it a while back. We love our 04 EX-L. But with the changes they've made to the Accord, we don't think we'd buy another one if we were gonna buy another car right now.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Member Posts: 9,731
    WOW.

    They're paying me $20,686.74 for a car that I paid $20,700 for 3 years ago. That's a great testament to Honda's residual value!!
  • kingrkingr Member Posts: 62
    Will 16" wheels/tires off an 2004 Accord EX V6 fit on a 2005 Accord LX 4cyl.
    Thanks
  • avianfluavianflu Member Posts: 33
    Thanks MrBill 1957!

    You saved me some bucks, the Key FOB programming worked like a dream.
  • master1master1 Member Posts: 340
    Yes they will fit but your speedometer might be off by about 5-10mph. The dealer might be able to correct the speedometer issue - but I'm not sure.
    So yes, 16 inch wheels will fit.
  • rcc8179rcc8179 Member Posts: 131
    I think the wheels will fit with no speedo adjustment necessary. The tires are 205/60/16 vs. 205/65/15, so the outer diameters of the wheels/tires are within 1%.
  • scs111scs111 Member Posts: 22
    I almost bought a 2006 Honda Accord EX-L but at the last minute decided to go for the 2007 Camry LE. I was able to negotiate a lower price for a Camry that was equipped similarly to the EX-L. The only thing the Camry didn't have was the 6 CD changer and heated seats...and we don't need heated seats in Houston.
  • glennglennglennglenn Member Posts: 55
    How is it diminished value if its totalled??? That rule applies if the car is repaired and then its worth less NOW after its been repaired. The issue you are facing is whether they gave you FMV for the car after it was totalled. This has nothing to do with diminished value. :shades: b>
  • sammymsammym Member Posts: 19
    How many miles should a new car have on it before i purchase? I've been visiting dealers for test drives and I see some 06 accords with over 500 miles on it that they call new. Is this right? Any advise on what the max mileage should be? Thanks.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Member Posts: 9,731
    I believe they can call it 'new' well past that, maybe even 3,000 miles, if I recall correctly. After that, it becomes a "demonstrator."
  • scs111scs111 Member Posts: 22
    They determine the fair market value, determine the cost to repair the vehicle ($13K in my case), the cost of the rental car, and then they estimate what the diminished value might be. If the total of all of these is over 75% of the FMV, they will total the car. Once they knew I was seeking diminished value, they quickly changed their position and totalled the car.
  • canddmeyercanddmeyer Member Posts: 410
    You better be sure your other replies are accurate before you jump. In the past, LX 4-cyl wheels have had 4 lug holes. The V6 wheels had 5 lugs.

    So unless Honda has made all Accord wheels with 5 lugs in recent years, then your prior replies may be wrong. FWIW, my 4-cyl LX has a four lug pattern.
  • bamacarbamacar Member Posts: 749
    All are 5 lug with the latest generation - 2003 and on.
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    Whether or not it has ever been titled determines whether it is "new" or not, regardless of mileage - at least as I understand it. You could check over on our Smart Shopper board to be certain.
  • avianfluavianflu Member Posts: 33
    Kingr-

    Absolutely correct! The wheels and wheel covers on our 2005 Accord LX 4cyl are
    undeniably butt ugly.

    Been thinking of doing the same,
    however stock 16" aluminum wheels will expose the rear drum brakes that perhaps look even worse than the plastic hub caps. There are after market wheels with a large center that can cover the drum brakes:

    http://www.tirerack.com/upgrade_garage/WheelSearch.jsp?&autoMake=Honda&autoModel- =Accord+Cpe+LX+4cyl&autoYear=2005&autoModClar=

    However only can find them in 18", so the ride would deteriorate. Guess what we really need is need a wrecked Accord to pull the wheels tires and the rear disks from. Or go into denial and just don't even look at those ugly plastic wheel covers.
  • avianfluavianflu Member Posts: 33
    Been snooping around the Honda UK site and happened upon their Accord wagon known as the Tourer. What a dream boat.

    http://media.honda.co.uk/car/media/hce_flash.html

    With the a quiet diesel putting out 138hp at 4000 rpm it gets 48 mpg and is good for nearly 700 miles per tank. Didn't know a diesel could spin that fast. Honda wizards must be working some mechanical magic here.

    Having a hard time getting much past 400 miles with my 2005 4cyl, and closer to 350 with the wife at the wheel.

    So thought that if the tourer was sold in Central or South America or Canada, well one might just drive one on into Texas. But no luck, not sold anywhere in the new world. Not in Mexico, nor Brazil, nor Argentina.

    Honda is forcing my hand; may have to go German with the up coming Passat wagon. Sorry Honda no MINI Van in my future.
  • seniorjoseseniorjose Member Posts: 277
    "You better be sure your other replies are accurate before you jump. In the past, LX 4-cyl wheels have had 4 lug holes. The V6 wheels had 5 lugs."

    My 2005 4-cylinder is a 5 lug i6 inch wheel. I looks like Honda has simplified parts storage for the 4 and 6.
  • sammymsammym Member Posts: 19
    Hey "thegraduate," i noted that you were talking about your road trips in your EX I4-how does it handle at high speeds. Trying to compare that to a V6 since I havne't driven it on the highway yet. I typically drive about 80MPH on the Florida turnpike so and i'm trying to decide between the I4 and V6 engines.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Member Posts: 9,731
    Of course, the I-4 is lacking RELATIVE to the V-6, but in my 166 hp 2006 model, I've NEVER found a hole I couldn't get into, and that includes one stint at 90-95 MPH (when you gotta pee, you hurry to the exit!). I have no doubt it will hit 115+ with little drama. I think you were asking about power, but i'd like to add it also handles VERY well at this speed, not twitchy at all.

    BTW, I also have a 130 hp 1996 Accord LX auto, so I know what NOT having passing power is like. There have been several opportunities where I needed to move over to let people merge, but I couldn't accelerate into the other lane, and ended up hitting the brakes to let the mergers in. My 2006 feels like a rocket in comparison, and has never left me wanting a V-6. I've only floored it once or twice, and that was because I HAD to in my old car to get moving at that speed (so it became habit), but in my new one, flooring it at 75+ still gives you a good push of power.

    May I ask what you currently drive and how you feel about that car at high speed?
  • gee35coupegee35coupe Member Posts: 3,387
    Not that I know that from experience or anything. :blush:
  • thegraduatethegraduate Member Posts: 9,731
    *Smiles and nods* "Of course not, gee, you drive the speed limit at all times."
  • gee35coupegee35coupe Member Posts: 3,387
    We discuss that all the time over here...
    xwesx, "Inconsiderate Drivers (share your stories, etc.)" #7865, 13 Apr 2006 3:10 pm
    Speed limits and all.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Member Posts: 9,731
    Yeah, Ive been there, done that. It turned into an argument over mileage, so I've left there for a while. I'll stay here, where people are nicer!
  • sammymsammym Member Posts: 19
    Right now, driving a Saturn which blows my ears out at 80MPH!!

    I test drove both I-4 and V6 accords and while the V6 was NICE, i felt like the I-4 is good enough for me. Everyone i speak to ends up advising me to buy the V6 since they keep telling me it will handle better on the highway etc. While that may be true, I just wanted to know how the I4 handles at high speeds and you answered that :) Besides, the V6 would probably cost me about $600 more in fuel each year (assuming 5 MPG less than the I4 and 60 fill-ups a year), which is almost like a $1000 bonus check after taxes. The prudent side of me says get the I4, another side is screaming V6!! I just want somethign that will be nice and quiet on the highway and give me good mileage in the city. Perhaps i'm over-analyzing this and just need to go buy either one!!
  • tallman1tallman1 Member Posts: 1,874
    Drive them both and see. I agree with everything the Graduate says.... I doubt if you'll be disappointed with the 4. And as you say, you'll love the mileage you get. And if you get the manual, you'll not miss the 6 nearly as much. Very fun car. :)
  • thegraduatethegraduate Member Posts: 9,731
    The I-4 is actually a little more playful behind the wheel because of the lighter weight over the front wheels (better-balanced handling).
  • elroy5elroy5 Member Posts: 3,735
    I have the EX V6 sedan auto. With the 5 speed auto the V6 engine is very nice on the highway. I was shocked to see I got 33mpg, and I was doing 80-85 most of the time. And passing is effortless. I don't even hear the engine, until I get on it. Don't have to wonder, can I get around this car quick enough? I know I can. Try both engines out, don't short change yourself, and regret it later. 160 hp is pretty good. But 240 hp is much better. IMO
  • thegraduatethegraduate Member Posts: 9,731
    Now it's 170 hp and 250 hp (on the old standard - ten more hp for both), with the new standard, we're up to 166 hp and 244 hp. Just think, the Accord V-6 of 8-9 years ago had the same horsepower as the current I-4, with less mileage than the current V-6 (19/26? I think).
  • sammymsammym Member Posts: 19
    True. I'm pretty sure I'm going to get the I4-unless someone quotes me an OTD price of $25K for the V6, which is highly unlikely. Hey graduate, did i read somewhere that you're 6.4? I'm 6.2 and it felt like the EX moonroof cut into my headroom a bit. Maybe I just didn't adjust the seat hight properly... Either way, got dealers pleading for me to come in this weekend. I know i'll probably get a better deal waiting until it gets closer to month end though.
  • tallman1tallman1 Member Posts: 1,874
    I'm 6'4" and the roof on my 06 does cut in more than my 95. There is more overlap with the head liner and moonroof. Don't know if that has to do with side impact bags or not. That's my biggest complaint on this car.

    More leg room though and the left footrest area is wider than 95. Dress shoes fit fine in my old car but something with a larger sole was just a bit too wide.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Member Posts: 9,731
    Yes, I'm 6'4", but my legs are long; I don't sit very tall (short torso, 34" inseam). I have found that I can even adjust the seat up to about the halfway point before my head is in the ceiling. Go try out the power seat again, make sure you have adjusted it all the way down.
  • tallman1tallman1 Member Posts: 1,874
    Wow... you must have a short torso. My seat is all the way down and still touch the roof and have to tilt my head sideways a little bit.
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