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  • haulhaul Member Posts: 3
    I have driven the new 4 cylinder accord EX for about 4 months. In freeway(Average 70 mph), it only gets 25 mpg. In local, it gets about 20 mpg. According to the specification, it should be 25 to 35 mpg. Is anything wrong with the car? could someone let me know your new car mpg?
  • caaqacaaqa Member Posts: 4
    I was quoted about $800 over invoice for a '02 EX-V6.I am living in West Pennslyvania. Is this
    a fair price? If not, how much lower should I
    shoot for (e.g. $300 over invoice)?

    Thank you for your help!
  • ebd135ebd135 Member Posts: 4
    I've gotten a consistent 30-31 mpg with my 4 cylinder 2001 EX with an average highway speed of somewhere between 65-75 mph. City mpg is more in the neighborhood of 22-25mpg range. I bought the car in February when we still had some very cold weather going on and that didn't hurt the gas mileage much. Overall, decent gas mileage.
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Member Posts: 2,363
    That's in the ballpark for early in the model year, but counter with $500 over and see what happens. At some point, you have to ask how much hassling you want to do vs just driving the car home. You're close, in any case...
  • larry108larry108 Member Posts: 1
    Are you getting the mileage you listed from a 5 speed or an automatic?
  • haulhaul Member Posts: 3
    The 4 cylinder 2001 Accord 4DR, EX-L, automatic transmision w/ SULEV Emission control system I have consistantly give me 25 mpg on the freeway regardless what gasoline I used. Is something wrong with the car?
  • homerjoneshomerjones Member Posts: 1
    My accord's original tires were Michelin Energy MXV4plus 195/65/R15 with an 89H speed rating. It will cost at least $600 to replace 4 tires with the original equipment.

    Can anyone recommend a good value replacement tire? I am interested in an all season, long wearing set of tires. I drive mainly highway miles, and accumulate about 30,000 miles a year. Performance is not a priority, handling in wet conditions is a priority.

    Please advise.
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Member Posts: 2,363
    Try Michelin MX4s; they have worked well on a '91 Accord with 15" wheels and this exact tire size, and they are considerably more economical to buy. Excellent in the rain, by the way. Tire Rack can give you a good price.

    The speed rating for these is either S or T, but who cares, unless you plan on consistently exceeding 110 mph?

    Other candidates: Dunlops, Yokohama Avids. Stay away from Goodyear if you want long wear. Some Bridgestones have been OK for me, but some haven't. Personally, I prefer something from Michelin above any other alternative.

    Surprisingly, you may find the Mich XGT4 is actually cheaper than the MXVs in an H rating, if you can find them in this size - again, check Tire Rack's search engine and see what you get.
  • ebd135ebd135 Member Posts: 4
    In response to haul, I have an 4 cylinder EX w/SULEV automatic that averaging 30-31 mpg highway.
  • fxashunfxashun Member Posts: 747
  • twistinmelontwistinmelon Member Posts: 90
    92 Accord LX Coupe: 185 70 R 14

    OEM Michelin, tried to save some money replacing with Firestones, and I've been displeased with them from day 1.

    twist
  • bkg101bkg101 Member Posts: 5
    What is the invoice price for the 2002 Accord SE? I was quoted a price of $1200 down, $260/month, 39 months lease with 12K per year. Is this a fair price? The price includes taxes as well.
  • qwallsqwalls Member Posts: 406
    The DX and LX had 14" tires, and the EX had 15" tires.
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    Earlier this year I got Sumitomo HTR4 from the tirerack and have been very pleased. Reasonably priced and seem to handle very well. They are listed as a high performance all season tire - we'll see how good they are in the winter.

    I believe they were rated for 45K miles, but since my Michelins only lasted 35K the Sumitomos seemed like a value.

    Good Luck
  • daveschneiderdaveschneider Member Posts: 2
    I also found that the Michelin Energy tires that came on my 92 EX were very expensive. However, the Michelin Pilot cost a lot less and it is an all season performance tire. I am not a driving pro but I do love to drive and I think the Pilots are great. Good grip and very straight tracking tire. Its worth looking into. Good luck.
  • evandroevandro Member Posts: 1,108
    I had a car that came with Michelin MX4 originally and they were the worst tires I used in my life! They had very bad handling and traction on wet pavement and were quite noisy either going straight or going around turns.

    The best thing I did was replacing them with BF Goodrich Radial T/A. 180° from those darn Michelin! At just $250 for the set, these are the best Michelin you can buy (it owns BF Goodrich)! ;^)
  • rickpctrickpct Member Posts: 71
    Am considering the DX 5 speed - just need basic transport and already spent $35K on a car for my wife so my budget is limited! I understand that the A/C is a dealer accessory - concerned that the A/C will not function as well/effectively as factory installed.

    Plan to keep car 6-8 years. Any insight would be helpful. Thx.
  • soberssobers Member Posts: 496
    My frined got ac in his civic dx from the dealer & it works jsut fine. No problem. But instead of getting the DX, get the VP or better yet get the LX if you can. Do not leave without power windows/lock/mirrors & ThE CRUISE control.

    If you are on a VERY tight budget, get an year old Accord Lx with no more than 10,000 miles (2 of my friends have got 2001 Accord LX with 7000& 11000 miles for 16500 + fees.
  • rickpctrickpct Member Posts: 71
    Thanks. I really want the 5 speed which is not available on the value package. Only way to get all of the goods is to go to an LX 5 speed. At $18K, I'd rather buy a used Maxima.

    It seems that buying a used Honda doesn't make financial sense - since the depreciation is so low you're better off buying new - of course that only makes sense if you plan to keep the car 3-4 years.
  • s852s852 Member Posts: 1,051
    No one can sell their used Honda for the same as a new one. If they expect anyone to buy it, they will need to sell it cheap enough that it would be impossible for anyone to buy a new one for around the same price as their used car.
    If it is possible to get a new Accord LX for near invoice, then a used 2001 would probably need to be priced at least $1000 below the invoice of a new one for anyone to seriously consider buying it.
  • ukrickukrick Member Posts: 66
    Go to the honda2001.com web site and look at what some of their certified used cars are listed for. It's unreal! I can't believe these dealers have them priced this high. Perhaps it's so they can have some room for haggling with the customer.
  • s852s852 Member Posts: 1,051
    Yes, they pad the asking prices for later negotiation.
    Who is going to pay the same price for a used 1 or 2 year old Honda as they could get a new one whether it is "Certified" or not?
  • rmscsrmscs Member Posts: 6
    I have a 2001 4 cylinder Accord LX automatic w/ 6500 miles. I drive a 50 mile round trip commute on the interstate. Half cruising 65-80 with traffic, half in traffic. A/C on always. I have averaged 24.6 for all the miles on the car with a range of 23.5 - 26. Would like it to be better but I'm not giving up the A/C.
  • haulhaul Member Posts: 3
    Thank edb135 for your information. Half of my daily trip (about 30 miles) is with the A/C on and the other half(in the early morning) is just the fan on. Would the A/C on make that much different on the Average of 25 MPG for the Accord EX-L with automatic?
  • bulkleycorpbulkleycorp Member Posts: 21
    Thx for the feedback - will tool around the dealers this week to see how flexible they are in negotiating used Honda pricing.
  • vinneyvinney Member Posts: 43
    Hey I have a great suggestion: Sell your wife's car and buy 2 new vehicles that cost 20,000 each and everyone will be happy! Your wife having a 35,000 car doesn't seem fair to me. just in my opinion.
  • bulkleycorpbulkleycorp Member Posts: 21
    I know, but it's her and the 2 kids so I'll let her drive in the nicer car for now. At any rate, I like the accord and have concluded that I'll buy new instead of used. Will wait until the spring - by then the economy should be sufficiently slow enough where ALL car dealers will be desperate to make a deal (IMHO this economy isn't turning around until Fall 2002).
  • carolinamancarolinaman Member Posts: 2
    The only thing that has kept me from buying an accord with sunroof is the sacrifice of headroom in the car. The specs indicate a loss of about 1.5 inches in headroom when equipped with a sunroof. Camry and Maxima don't have this reduction in headroom when equipped with a sunroof; why is Honda different? Also, why don't they give you an option on LX or EX of leather w/o having to buy a sunroof? I'm over 6 feet tall and i don't like losing the extra headroom with the sunroof, and i would like to have the leather option w/o the sunroof. Toyota and Nissan give you the leather/no sunroof option, why can't Honda? I bought a 99 LX instead of EX w/leather because of the lack of headroom.
  • carolinamancarolinaman Member Posts: 2
    n/t
  • s852s852 Member Posts: 1,051
    I haven't seen a car where the sunroof did not reduce headroom somewhat. Just because Nissan and and Toyota did not specifically list the headroom differences with and without moonroof, doesn't mean there is no difference.
    I am over 6 feet tall and I can sit in the both the front and back of an Accord EX sedan and my head does not touch the roof.
    Honda does not offer factory options the way Toyota and Nissan do as a way to cut costs. A Camry costs quite a bit more than an Accord with the same level of equipment.
    If customizing your car with odd combinations of options is what you want, then you have to pay the price premium of a Camry to get it.
    You can also easily have a dealer install aftermarket leather to an Accord LX that can often be of better quality than what comes from the factory of most car manufacturers.
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Member Posts: 2,363
    Yes, I'm one of those people who considers a sunroof a thoroughly useless device, but at 6' even, I fit fine in our EX V6 sedan, and have the seat adjusted to the highest possible level. Can't imagine anyone at 6 feet who can't adjust the seat in this car to fit...would I rather have an EX-level car without this hole in the roof? Absolutely, but the effect is the same, or worse in the Camrys I've owned. Just don't understand this problem...
  • rollsrolls Member Posts: 5
    F.Y.I.
    Just got a great Accord lease.
    2002 Accord four door SE Auto.(pwr windows, locks and sunroof, keyless entry) 249/mth 39 mths. 15,000 miles per year, 550 total out of pocket.
    Peters Honda in Nashua NH, ask for Tom.
  • pauletkpauletk Member Posts: 3
    Hi. I used CarFax.com to check out a 1997 Honda Accord SE that I want to buy. It has 77,728 miles on it and still has a warranty till 2003. It is marked at $10,875 (which is less than the value Edmund.com had for it). The CarFax Report said that it had a "problem". It once had a "Not Actual Mileage Title." What does that mean? Is it not OK to buy this car? It has everything I want. Please email me asap. pauletk@g2a.net
  • mannie31mannie31 Member Posts: 11
    To me personally I think its to much for a 4 year old car with 80 miles it also depends if its a 4 cylinder or a 6 cylinder and with a shady past just like that carfax commercial says u don't know what past owner have done to there car.
    Try autotrader.com they have good deals on hondas in my area anyway.
  • evandroevandro Member Posts: 1,108
    I've checked out the new Camry up close this weekend. It sure is handsome!

    I can't say however that I liked the price on steroids too... :^/
  • timadamstimadams Member Posts: 294
    The Camry and Maxima do lose headroom with a sunroof, as do all other cars. The sunroof has to go somewhere, doesn't it? On your main point, though, I bought an LX Accord mostly because of the extra headroom I get without the sunroof. I, too, wish Honda and other makers wouldn't make sunroofs part of packages and trim lines.
  • eran1eran1 Member Posts: 17
    seems like a heck of a deal. not a fan of leasing, yet. clarify that deal, did you make a mistake, $550 down? the other terms? it just sounds too good to be true.
  • dtownfbdtownfb Member Posts: 2,918
    If you want the head room and a sunroof, simply buy the LX and get an after market sunroof put in. The aftermarket sunroofs have improved dramatically since the late 70's/early 80s. Plus an after market sunroof will not reduce the head room in the Accord. Had an aftermarket sunroof on 1994 Accord installed by ASC. it actually was a better unit then the factory and ASC is a nationwide company. Also had one installed on my 1996 Explorer. Still leak free after 5-1/2 years. I would check with the dealer to see what the cost is to have on installed.

    Good luck.
  • stevehfstevehf Member Posts: 5
    I just bought a new 2001 Accord (VP package). Now it has 2300 miles. I had notice the followings:

    1) The gas mileage is constantly 3 miles below the specified average (I only got 23 miles per gal under 65% HW and 25% City driving);
    2) The muffler at the idle speed (round 800 rpm) is rattling and noisy. More precisely, it seems that the muffler is "choked" and so produces a high velocity exhaust gas. You can feel it very well when you place your hand even 6 inches away from the exhaust tip.
    3) Comparing the same card of the same mode, I would say that the amount of exhaust (gas) from my car is 10 times of that from the normal one.
    4) Carbon deposit was found in the inner wall of the exhaust pipe.

    This morning, I took the car back to the dealer service department and explain the above syndromes to the servicemen. The first two told me that they didn't understand what I said (meant, they didn't think those were problems). After I explained to the third one and he compared the exhaust with the same car from the lot, he acknowledged that my card did have much more muffler noisy. He suspected that there might be some "Baffle" in the muffler that causes this. Then I asked him what about the syndromes # (1), (3) and (4). His answers were: For item # (1), they could not check the gas mileage till 6000 miles: For item # (3), the more air (exhaust) the better."; and For item # (4), it is normal.
    They are going to replace the muffler with a new one on next Tuesday. I will further inform you the result.

    Does anyone here has different opinion from that my serviceman told me?
    Any suggestion what the real problem could be?

    Any suggestion and advice from you will be greatly appreciated and thank you in advance.
  • smithmdsmithmd Member Posts: 167
    I'd say the last service person you talked to is right. All of that sounds normal. My gas mileage has been everywhere from 19 to 32 depending on how and where I drove the car. Also the air conditioning can have a negative effect on gas mileage.
  • bolivarbolivar Member Posts: 2,316
    Few cars will get the estimated milages on the sticker.
  • stevehfstevehf Member Posts: 5
    I had made a driving under "controlled condition". 210 miles round trip on Hwy by keeping the speeds between 62 to 67 mile per hour under no traffic jam and without fast acceleration. The best I got from this trip is 28.4 mile per gallon.

    The thing bothering me the most is the large volume exhaust at the idle speed. Can anyone explain this? Someone told me that some car has a assisting air fan used to control the catalyst converter temperature by adding additional air to the exhaust system. Do Accord have such fan? If yes, then could be the temperature control system malfunctioning that is causing the fan turning at full speed even at low engine speed?

    Appreciated if someone can enlighten me.
  • smithmdsmithmd Member Posts: 167
    I wouldn't worry about the volume of exhaust exiting the tailpipe. If there were a problem, the "service engine soon" light would come on. That light is more or less hooked up to a bunch of sensors throughout the engine and exhaust system. They are very sensitive and will let you know if there is a problem with the way your motor is running...including if there is too much of various kinds of gases. If the sensors malfunction, the light on the dash would come on.

    For your gas mileage: check your tire pressure. I don't remember what Honda recommends, but I run 35 psi in all 4 tires. Check your air filter. If it's already filthy (you can't really see light through it), change it. Check your PCV valve. It shouldn't be clogged already, but it's a $2 part and could possibly be jammed. (if you don't know where the PCV valve is, ask the dealer or go to your local auto parts store and ask...they're usually very friendly).

    I used to drive 50 miles each way to work...all but 3 miles of it was on a slightly hilly 4-lane highway. I would set the cruise control on 72 or 73 mph and get about 28 mpg for those tanks of gas. However, when I get out on a long trip and set the cruise control at about 80 (I live in a different state, now...it's flat), I'll get 31 or 32 mpg.

    Now that I've written a book, I'll tell you that there most likely isn't anything wrong with your car. It is very common to not achieve the mileage ratings claimed by the manufacturer.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    For some reason I don't understand seem to improve on gas mileage markedly after around 5000 miles. I can't explain why but I've seen it on my own Hondas.

    I rarely even check my mileage. I figure it'll get whatever it gets.
  • smithmdsmithmd Member Posts: 167
    I guess I had a brain fart and forgot about that. My Pathfinder did that (got better mileage after several thousand miles).
  • asdxereasdxere Member Posts: 29
    I've noticed the "hesitation" problem in my 2002 Accord LX (around 1800 rpms) as previously mentioned on this board. I never saw any posts that speak of anyone getting it fixed at a dealer or not. Has anyone heard of a specific fix for this problem yet?
  • fxashunfxashun Member Posts: 747
    My 132,000 mile Civic will do better than the 36mpg that I got on a tank of gas earlier this summer? Highway speeds (75-95) A/C on I-20 between Atlanta and Birm., Ala. I was shocked.
  • mirrormirror Member Posts: 15
    I just bought a Honda Accord 98 LX-V6 with 59,000 miles for $13,900. It is a single owner car and has been very well maintained. The dealer is offering a 3year/100K $25 deductable warranty for extra $1,500. Supposingly it covers everything that the original manufacter warranty would except emmisions and "tear-and-wear". Is it worth it?

    So far I have been very happy with the car. Been a rare model it combines the low cost of LX (as opposite to EX) and long lasting V6 powerful engine (as opposite to I4). What do you think folks? I realise the warranty gives you piece of mind but still, what are the chances that it breaks in the next 3 years? Any experience is appreciated.

    The service records I have for the car show that the worst problem it had so far was the burnt out tail lamp bulb. ;) Also the car had brakes changed at 45,000 miles and new tires, probably changed around that time as well.
  • mikebeginmikebegin Member Posts: 7
    Hello all!

    I am thinking of purchasing a 1991 Honda Accord EX with 136K miles. How many miles can I reasonably expect to get out of this car, assuming it has been well maintained? I have never owned a Honda car, but have always heard great stories. Are there any known problems with this year Accord? It is an automatic, and the transmission seems to shift hard, is that normal?

    Thanks for any help and info!
    Mike
  • qwallsqwalls Member Posts: 406
    My '91 Accord has 207k miles, and is still going strong. Make sure the transmission's sport mode isn't engaged. (button on the side of the shifter)
    The distributor, igniter, brakes (warped rotors), and exhaust are the weak areas of the car in my opinion.
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