Older Honda Accords

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  • rickycfchenrickycfchen Member Posts: 1
    When I had the first look at the 2003 new Accord, I was a little bit disappointed. The fifth generation Accord did not have a good sale in Taiwan because of its looking. The 5th Accord provides good engine performance and also the riding but was not saling well because of its looking. People won't like a car (or a person)looked with a mouse head. I hope Honda will do a reshaping for the Accord's front face just like it did for the 6th generation's Accord in Asia.
  • wolverine_xwolverine_x Member Posts: 54
    Well, the new pics are kind of refreshing to look at. It truly is a handsome car. I can see a lot of retracted statements coming. Especially after two weeks when we all can really see that it is indeed a more daring but elegant design than the current.

    in my opinion, it still maintained its clean lines. The interior is something to be admired about. It clearly speaks of honda's attention to detail and quality.

    I just hope that interior noise is a thing of the past.
  • dindakdindak Member Posts: 6,632
    To me the new Accord is nothing more than a evolution of the current model. They is nothing very exciting about it, but nothing to offend either. I'm not sure what all the fuss is about in terms of the styling. It certainly looks better than the new Camry.
  • mackabeemackabee Member Posts: 4,709
    ..Charlie Baker could have been more creative with the outside on the new Accord. The interior is quite handsome, something you would find in a Lexus, or BMW. The outside leaves something to be desired. Looks like he grabbed the front of a Chrysler Sebring and attached it to the rear of a Saab 9-3. And the back of the coupe is a total rip-off of the Merecedes CLK. It will still sell though.
    : )
    Mackabee
  • lienrenchiehlienrenchieh Member Posts: 8
    Got LX V4 4dr auto for 17.2 k last weekend at Seattle. Not a good deal I think. Most of buyers
    here got better prices than mine.

    I am considering to install keyless entry myself.
    Is it easy to do? any advice?
  • lenscaplenscap Member Posts: 854
    Why is there a CD slot in photo #8 above? I thought all cars have a covered CD-holder in that spot. It looks like in photo #8 that there are two CD slots. Does anybody know the answer?

    Also, one thing that's disapponting about the interior is the automatic shifter. Honda kept that cheap looking tall shifter. What's worse, they put a real nice automatic shifter in the Civics for 2003, ones that have a little silver trim on them and have a nicer shape (they may have it in 2002, but I don't think so).

    Oh well, the interior is still a 10.
  • ickes_mobileickes_mobile Member Posts: 675
    I think the lower slot is for an MP3 player.

    In some of the other pictures I seen, the shifter looks different than the one in the current car, in a more substantial kind of way. It's height is propably related to the height of the arm rest such that you can rest your elbow on the arm rest and hand on the gear shift. Its the same as in our '01 EX 5spd. and very comfortable.
  • talon95talon95 Member Posts: 1,110
    One thing that I've noticed in several shots of the new Accord interior is that it appears that they've dropped the cover over the cupholders, and now they're just exposed holes in the console. To me, this seems like a step backward when they're clearly trying to make the interior more upscale.
  • diploiddiploid Member Posts: 2,286
    I think those pics are of the cupholders when they're "open" (like in the current Accord, where the cover folds down and to the side). I'll have to look on vtec to see if there are pics of the cupholders in closed mode.

    I think Honda didn't mess with the ergonomics of the interior - everything seems to be in the same place, except the materials have increased in quality, and there are only minor differences.

    I think the new shifter is a big improvement over the outgoing model, which was shaped very well for grasping, but it did look kind of cheap.
  • silvercrownsilvercrown Member Posts: 237
    Those John Holtz pictures are impressive. I think the new style is "growing" on me. LOL

    Seriously though, the new Accord looks really good in these photos. Even the rear end (which is still the weakest point of the exterior stying IMHO) looks better to me. Especially in the darker colors (the burgundy and the dark green) and with the rear spoiler added (surprisingly enough). Front and side views are very attractive and the interior looks top notch. I can't wait to see one in person. I just may "defect" to Honda when I buy my next car (whenever that may be).

    Many thanks to the poster who generously supplied the link.
  • silverk21silverk21 Member Posts: 65
    I searched all available pictures I know of and could not find one without the cupholder exposed. Hopefully this was intentional to show the exposed cupholders.
  • diploiddiploid Member Posts: 2,286
    I think talon is right. The open cupholders are 1) bigger than the ones in the current Accord, and 2) the plastic seems to be a one piece design - I do not see a separate plate to cover the cupholders.
  • bodydoublebodydouble Member Posts: 801
    The styling IS starting to grow on me. IMO, the only weak view is the side view where the trunk is too short -- makes the rear end look way too stubby.

    So does anyone know where Honda has stuck the flashing LED for the security system? From one of the pics, it appears it is no longer located on top of the driver door sill.
  • bowkebowke Member Posts: 169
    ....the deal you got may not have been a "bad deal"...keep in mind how many cars exactly like yours are left in the local market...if there are alot, youmay have gotten a few extra hundred off, but if yours was, say, the last one in that color, your deal was fair to both you and the dealer. there are many more factors than just price that go into determining what the dealer's "bottom line" is. if they have the last eternal blue accord lx auto 4-cyl. in the local market, and thats the only color you want...well, guess what...you'll pay more for it. we now get back to supply and demand.

    yes, the 2002 accord is a lame-duck model, but it is still the best selling car in america 2 years running, and still has more demand than alot of other models.
  • ickes_mobileickes_mobile Member Posts: 675
    is no big loss. My wife always seems to spill soda in the latch all the time so that it sticks and doesn't pop up when you press the cover...

    Also, on the door locks, it would be nice if they'd use flush fitting knobs. The current stem design always pokes me in the arm when resting on the door with the window open. If you hook your arm around it, its livable...

    The car's looks have been growing on me since I saw the September MT. One thing I noticed in the Holtz pictures is the back end seems to have Odessey-like angles where the fender wraps around to the back of the car and then an almost flat surface through the majority of the tail lights and license area. Nice.
  • sd1228sd1228 Member Posts: 46
    It may be in the dash (along with all other
    warning and info lights)
    For latest MPV's security system, it is in the dash. Same may be the case for Honda.
  • mackabeemackabee Member Posts: 4,709
    looked at the John Holtz pictures. Pic 13 front end shot shows a great resemblance to the S2000. These pictures make the car look a whole lot better than the first pictures that autoweek put out. Nice car. I think the Camry is in big trouble!

    : )

    Mackabee
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Member Posts: 2,363
    ...where have you been? Still selling Toyotas? Haven't seen you on the Camry board lately...
  • silverk21silverk21 Member Posts: 65
    Per Hondanews.com new interior will feature: Improved cup holders, Added bottle holders in in front and rear doors. What they exactly mean by "improved cup holders" remains to be seen. Anyway, I personally like the retractable cover, although I have also had it stick from spilled drinks.

    Anyone else notice that the door handles have changed on the sedan and not the coupe? What advantage could the redesign have? I prefer the flush handles on the coupe.
  • diploiddiploid Member Posts: 2,286
    I can tell you that the flush handles, while they're actually very strong, just feel flimsy on our 98 LX.

    There's an interior shot on one of the web sites with the pics, I forget if it was vtec or wieck, where you can see that the new cupholders seem to have those rubber ribbings on the inside to securely hold your drinks, and they also seem deeper than the current ones.
  • talon95talon95 Member Posts: 1,110
    ... are the style showing up everywhere, and are apparently patterned after the door handles on luxury brands such as Mercedes and BMWs.
  • bodydoublebodydouble Member Posts: 801
    on the '98 - '02 are very flimsy. You can literally bend the thing if you pull hard (actually you don't even have to pull that hard). I like the new ones on the sedan. Much sturdier, much more upscale-looking.
  • coolguyky7coolguyky7 Member Posts: 932
    Not to mention easier to open
  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    I just got back...The new Accord will be another home run hit! Fantastic in every respect!
  • ickes_mobileickes_mobile Member Posts: 675
    Which alloy wheels are the EX-V6 and EX-I4 sedans equipped with? This has been a long running debate here and at TOV regarding which car gets the painted seven-spoke wheel and which gets the five single-spoke brushed aluminum wheel.
  • ickes_mobileickes_mobile Member Posts: 675
    College Hills Honda's website says it has two or three '03 Accords in transit. Isell or Bowke want to provide an idea on timing? I would think that the dealershave to be getting some cars next week in advance of the offical on-sale date. What good does it do to put the car on-sale if nobody has one for people to look at?
  • soberssobers Member Posts: 496
  • jimxojimxo Member Posts: 423
    Any guess how long it will be before dealers will take $1000.00 of sticker? I'm hoping by December.
  • diploiddiploid Member Posts: 2,286
    ickes- They're probably already on the dealers' lots...depending on how close you are to Ohio.

    I remember reading on the Pilot board how people were able to purchase one (over MSRP, of course) at least 2 weeks prior to the official release date.
  • inky4inky4 Member Posts: 238
    The dealer I ordered from still had a few 03's left for $316 over invoice. No joke. Several of you have bought or ordered from there before. E-mail me for details. jcro3717@aol.com
    Not a joke or scam, just one crazy low volume dealer in Oklahoma.
    INKY
  • talon95talon95 Member Posts: 1,110
    Do the new Accords still have a cover for the console cupholders as with the current generation, or are they exposed as in most of the pictures?
  • bowkebowke Member Posts: 169
    the '03 accords are in full allocation...we have about 120 listed in transit, but the factory is holding them until 9/4-9/5 before shipment...should arrive around 9/9-9/10, and be available immediately. dealers farther away will have shipment atart a little sooner to time the arrivals and launch properly. im good friends with the prep center manager here, and he told me i would be the 2nd to know when they arrive...no such luck yet.
    the good it does is the fact that there are lots of people who believe that there is no risk to ordering in advance...the prices are non-negotiable to begin with, and they know this up front, so lack of pricing is a non-issue. these are mostly people who have had honda products repeatedly over the years, and trust honda to please them again.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    I think the wheels are painted like a current SE.

    They don't look bad though.

    And I don't think the cupholders had covers.

    Eight cupholders! Is that ridiculous or what?

    Discounts ????

    Why?
  • diploiddiploid Member Posts: 2,286
  • silverk21silverk21 Member Posts: 65
    Per honda news, new available for accessories for the '03 Accord will include: XM Satellite Radio, DVD-based rear entertainment system, MP3 Player, 6-disc CD changer and cassette player available as an accessory, integrated hands free system for cell phones (now there is something useful). In addition all new Accords "can be upgraded with 16-inch styled alloy wheels (DX and LX 4-cylinder models) or 17-inch styled alloy wheels, similar to ones available on the potent V-6 Coupe equipped with the 6-speed manual transmission." Most, if not all, are dealer installed options.
  • bodydoublebodydouble Member Posts: 801
    Honda had it for the '94 Accord. I'm not sure if it lasted thru the 4-year model cycle.
  • ahossaahossa Member Posts: 152
    Isellhondas:Discounting the 03 is possible. Who would have thought Toyota would be offering 2.9% on 02 Camrys in April of this Year. Last weekend there were also 2.9% financing again on the Camry. In New York there are specials lease pricing on the 02 Camry SE. So Cool it Guys. The economy is not that strong. Honda like everyone else will have to move these cars.
  • diploiddiploid Member Posts: 2,286
    In NJ, during their "Red Tag" sale you could've bought a Camry for 1.9% financing and, get this, the dealers were even willing to negotiate.
  • civicwcivicw Member Posts: 135
    This is a cutthroat market. Toyota has to keep up their volume, they will be aggressive with incentives and financing, and that will pressure Honda. Of course there will be the 'got to have it right now' crowd that will keep Accord prices higher than invoice for a month or two. After that it will be business as usual (invoice deals), IMHO.
  • robertsmxrobertsmx Member Posts: 5,525
    Camry has 0% going, right now on 2002s.

    Doorhandles:
    Talon95, Accord has had those doorhandles in the JDM version. You can see it here.
  • godeacsgodeacs Member Posts: 481
    Certainly not the Camry....3.9% is the going rate.
  • diploiddiploid Member Posts: 2,286
    It could be regional. 2.9% is the going rate for Camrys in my area. Before, it went as low as 1.9%.
  • godeacsgodeacs Member Posts: 481
    I have to take back what I said - just saw a TV ad for Toyota 5 mins ago and they did say 0% for the Camry! Didn't say for how long but if it's 60 months I'll be checking them out tomorrow...lol

    Just hope they're NOT like Volvo: 0% financing for 24 months! That's really a big help on a $30K car, even with a down payment...
  • godeacsgodeacs Member Posts: 481
    0% for 24 months which is basically worthless (like Volvo)! Just a way to get you into the showroom. 3.9% for 48-60 months like I said above.

    Oh well.........

    PS Guess this is technically off topic since it's a Honda discussion....lol
  • ickes_mobileickes_mobile Member Posts: 675
    has got to be Taurus/Sable. We took my wife's car in to get the trunk collision repaired and she got a '02 Sable rental. What a piece of $*#@! The seat were flat and uncomfortable, the windshield slanted so obtrusively and the opening small, and the cheap quality and poor fit of the interior was unbelievable. I can't believe Ford has the guts to sell something like that. Looking forward to getting the Accord back for a weekend road trip to Wisconsin.
  • mackabeemackabee Member Posts: 4,709
    is probably being offered by the dealership and not Toyota motor credit. We did something like that last December, only stip was you paid sticker for the car. We sold quite a few.

    : )
    Mackabee
  • robertsmxrobertsmx Member Posts: 5,525
    Ever driven a Taurus/Sable with the Duratec V6 over the mountains? Terrible. This comes from plenty of experience scaling the Rockies.

    IMO, Hyundai Sonata V6 performs better at higher elevations.
  • bowkebowke Member Posts: 169
    toyota wasnt expecting people to despise the new style so much...if they hadnt offered incentives, the accord would have blown the camry away for a second straight year. as it is, its anybody's game right now.

    the thing im expecting to see is the 4-cyl models holding msrp for 3-5 months...the v6 will be much longer...maybe even till the end of the '03 model run. im assuming also, once the 6-speed coupe comes out, they will never be discounted, as the allocation for the largest dealers will only be about 3-4 per month.
    dont underestimate the savvy marketing of honda...they will keep the demand high far longer than any of us anticipate, IMO. the odyssey is competing with the chrysler in volume, and still holding full pop.

    ahossa...the economy isnt that good?!?! honda is having a record volume year, as well as the rest of the auto industry. and i, personally, have never made so much money in my life...i think you are listening to the liberal media a little too much...lol.
  • dindakdindak Member Posts: 6,632
    Good news, I was reading at the car connection web site that Honda will offer XM radio as a dealer installed option on the 03 Accord.
  • marylandpetermarylandpeter Member Posts: 11
    I purchased a new '02 Accord LX (rated ULEV) from a dealership in MD last week. Last night, I just happened to be reviewing the window sticker and noticed that it indicates the final assembly point for my vehicle is...El Salto, Jalisco, Mexico! I was shocked and stunned because I assumed my Accord was built in Marysville, OH, as most Accords sold in the US are. The Accords built in the Mexico plant (which is a much lower volume plant than Marysville) are supposed to serve the Mexican market.

    I bought the Accord because of its reputation for quality, reliability, and durability, and I am now very concerned that my Accord may not have been manufactured with the same quality and care as other Accords. Any other owners out there with Mexican made Accords? Has anyone noticed or experienced a higher level of problems with Mexican made Accords?
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