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1) Does anyone else have the same concern or problem? If this is normal, I would like to put my mind in peace.
2) Do those technicans in dealership tell you the truth? My thinking is that since they can not make money on a car still under the warranty, they may tell me everything is fine.
Thanks for any input.
As for the dealers, they get paid for warranty work. So if anything they would look for opportunities to work on your car.
Also, what are the possible interior and exterior color combinations for 94 and 95 accords?
as far as interior and exterior colors on the 94 and 95 accords, who the heck knows that? i'm a doctor, jim, not a decorator.
jane, camry's (or "camery's" as you so fetchingly call the car) are indeed quieter than accords-- nothing's wrong with your accord... didn't you test drive both the camry and accord before you bought the accord, if noise was a concern?
both are nice cars and have their own pros and cons-- enjoy the accord and just play the radio a tad louder on the highway (camry's have better radios, too)... you bought yourself a nice car-- no need to worry. hope you got the naples gold-- classy color.
Yes, compared to the Camry, the Accord is noisier at highway speeds. This is due to road noise and not in anyway due to engine noise. You won't be able to hear any engine hum from the 4 cylinder until about 80mph and the V6 is quiet at all speeds when cruising. It's all relative though, my last Accord seems as quiet as an isolation booth compared to my Jetta VR6 at highway speeds above 70mph.
Nissan's 3.0 V6 engine is a gem that makes nice sounds when accelerating and it cruises quietly. But their 4 cylinder engines are coarse sounding and don't cruise very quietly. Very un-Honda and un-Toyota.
interspy24: We have two Accords and my in-laws have two Accords and they all have the two-tone dash color. I think its normal to have the two tone, definitely in the LX, not positive about the EX.
kaycee41: Congratulations on buying a new Honda. Sounds like this is your first. I think everyone gets new car jitters. These cars are really great. Knock on wood, but in my experience the repairs on Hondas have been very minimal. I think the 'typical' repairs you will have are: timing belt at 90K and CV Boots (at around 90 as well but that may be just me). Maybe the price for Honda parts and service are higher (not quite certain) but I would be willing to bet that the overall cost of maintenance is much lower than almost every domestic. Basically, if you change the oil regularly and keep up with the maintenance, you should be good to go.
I had a Black Integra once. The only drawbacks to black are: hard to keep clean and very hot in summer. But its Black! I liked the color. Be glad you didn't get blue. I test drove a blue 2001 Accord and I thought it looked cheap. Thats just my opinion though...
You should be able to n'joy this note once you pass 1500 miles break in. Just step on it from low speeds (enough to get it above 4000 RPMs when VTEC kicks in) & you will hear exhuast note.
So Yes, there is more noise from road &wind in Accord conmpared to Camry. POsitive side of this is tyres are good for 50K miles !! & better visibility(large Winshied,side mirrors) than EVERY other car in the market.
1. Yup, it's louder than a Camry. This is not a "problem", just the nature of the car. The Accord is designed to have a little sportier "feel" compared to a Camry, both in ride and handling. Personally, I like having more "road feel" as opposed to the greater sense of isolation the Camry provides, but it's just a matter of preference. Both are fine cars. And, of course, everything is relative. While the Accord may not be as quiet as a Camry, it's quieter than some other cars. Figure out your level of tolerance and buy accordingly (sorry, bad pun.)
2. Like anything else, there are honest and dishonest dealerships out there. I found that both the sales and service depts. of the place I bought my car had some questionable practices, so now I go to another one. One place to start might be the Better Business Bureau to see what kind of record the dealership has - try www.bbb.org, maybe, or your local attorney general's office, if they publish complaints. And, of course, ask any Honda owners you know for recommendations.
3. The cost of getting the car serviced at the dealership has been pretty comparable to local mechanics, at least in my area. The Oil Change Index is definitely about the same, $20-25. I'm happy about this, as I prefer to have Honda techs putting Honda materials in my car, though there is a limit to how much of a premium I'll pay for it. Since I've never owned a domestic make, I can't tell you if Honda parts are more expensive. But for me, one of the key reasons for buying a Honda was that I wouldn't need as many of those parts to begin with due to its reliability. So far, I've only done basic maintenance and everything's cool.
4. Jitters? Heck, I still wonder if I should've gotten the dark green or a 6-cyl. model. But remember what they say on multiple-choice tests, your first guess is usually the right one. Takes time to prove it, though. As far as colors go, my model only came in 3 colors, red, green and gold. Went with the gold because I liked it and also here in the Northeast we get lots of sand and salt in the winter. My previous car was dark blue and looked awful 4 months out of the year. But if I'd gone with a 6-cyl. and a spoiler I might have chosen differently
Hope this feedback is useful to somebody. Good luck with your cars.
Too many questions but I would really appreciate the info. I am a music-man & have almost 300 cds + cassetes !! I find the SE 6 speaker system OK but it could use some more power & bass if possible.
Thanks in Advance
they're on a 5 year cycle-- the last camry design change was 1997 model, the accord in 1998.
charmed as always...
Sobers, thanks for your information. You seems very knowledgeable about the car. I just wonder what is "engineer induction notes"? You mean the sound when you step on the accelerator. My car is pretty loud. The technican in Honda dealer also told me the side mirrors can contribute to the noise, just like you said. You are definitely right regarding the road noise. It seems that the noise is much much louder on some road surface. During my drive from GA to FL this Christmas, I even stopped once on the road because the noise was so loud that I thought there maybe something wrong with my tyres.
ral2167, I got myself a dark green Honda. It still looks great after 4 months. This is my first car buying experience, so I don't really know what kind of things I should pay attention to even though I did test drive both Honda and Camry. I just wonder why there is no mention of road or wind noise in the car reviews of Edmund since I read and believe every word of those car reviews.
i too would take the advice someone gave (venus) and drive another honda of the same make, engine, and model year -- take it out on the highway and see what kind of road noise you're hearing-- then compare.
janeming : Induction noise can be heared best of 2000 Civics. It is engine's brething. It isn't a bad noise as it gives a sproty feeling while accelerating. This noise WON'T Come while Crusing on the interstate. If you are very much annoyed with tyre-road noise you can swap them with quiter tyres. I din't remember exactly the quiter set of tyres which is mentiioned by alot many people all over this site. Many owners have found swapping tyers a very easy way to make accord quiter. If your daily commute invovles some rough patches or 'noisy road' then this is the best way to get rid of the noise. Wind Noise: Yes Accord has consirable wind noise from mirrors & due to huge-slopping windsheild which results in a very good visibility.
The best way to get rid of noise is to increase volume & listen to your favotite music
I guess my mind was boggled. I was responding to a poster who wants to get every horse out of his/her engine, yet skips gears while shifting?
And...I wonder where this person lives...no cops?
For around $10,000, my '95 Accord EX 5-spd was a great car. The driver's window motor quit working at one point, but that was really the only problem we had with the car. I sold it a few months ago. It was probably a better car than my '98. I have no basis for that comment, simply a feeling. For around $15,000 or $16,000, the '98 is quieter and has a smoother ride. It's also bigger. Both Honda's were/are I4's.
On the other hand, I owned a Jeep Grand Cherokee for 5 months and 7,000 miles. I spent more on repairs for it than I paid on the loan (it was used). I traded it for a Nissan Pathfinder. I don't intend to ever buy another Chrysler vehicle.
I have a 2001 EXL Coupe 5spd with the stock Bridgestone Turanza tires. On certain pavements (particularly the cement-colored kind with the little dark specs) at higher speeds (70 mph+), my Accord is very, annoyingly loud. Even the radio can't drown out the sound of the road. Very surprising and disaappointing for a car that is otherwise very refined. OTOH, if the pavement is the smooth/black type, road noise is minimal. Unbeliveable how much of a difference pavement can make with this car.
The engine is very quiet except under hard accleration, when it should be loud, IMO. I never find engine noise offensive, but road noise is definitely a concern. What's weird is that I have a 2001, which supposedly has improvements to retard road noise. How bad were the 1998-2000s?
I have a gut feeling that you don't have anything wrong with your tires. If your car is very loud on just certain kinds of pavement, I think the culprit is the car's design. This is strange for a Honda...
Lately, this sound discussions are going into different direction that I can not understand. (by the way I am not responding to anybody by this e-mail).
There are some trade offs in every car in order to keep the cost controlled. Every car company, techically, capable to built sound proof cars but are you financially capable to buy it.
If your answer is yes then why you did not buy something from serious sedan classification (like cadillac, MB, lexus etc.) at the beginning.
By just buying your Accord you said to yourself "OK. I am not buying high end sedan, these price range cars may have some weak tecnical designs compared to quiter and luxury types sedans but overall value makes my mind changed to ignore those weaknesses"
You bought you Honda because of the value: long technical life, good resale value etc and most important is the price compared with the quality.
My point is, under some conditions your car may absorb more noise then normal, if this is the case then you don't have to have disappointment on your car, blame the quality and etc. If it really bothers you, pay like $500 and buy high quality set of tires.
To me, my 99LX is very quiet car and believe me, my ears like submarine sonar.
Just try to enjoy your car, try to stop listening weird sounds that may come up time to time and love your accord, he/she has feelings!!!:)
Incidentally, I sympathize with those who question their decision on a particular model, but I think that, whatever the choice, most will be pleased with their decision to buy an Accord. I currently drive a '91 5-speed LX with 150K on it, and before that, an '86 with 240K (and still running strong when I sold it). I just hope for the same longevity with this new Accord.
I'll open my moonroof during the dead of winter some times and not care...just keep the heat cranked. I like the mixture of hot and cold air flowing around the cabin!
I just wanted to comment that the 2.3L engine in my EX seems like it has more power now than when it was brand new...I only have 1150 miles on the odo. I don't know if it's all in my head, but already I perceive an improvement, however slight, in engine feel and responsiveness. I wonder if this perception will increase as more miles roll on.
Regarding your break in comment, I am buying the 4-cyl. EX because the manual seemed to have much more "zip" than the automatic. It's good to hear that it may get even better. So the question is: should I thank the dealership for obtaining my "new" car from another dealership in the case where this car has been test driven over 300 miles? I mean, gosh, they've already put me well on my way to getting the performance improvement that you referred to (after 1150 miles)! Or should I suggest that they reduce the purchase price by 300 X $.33, or approx. $100? Does that seem petty? Any thoughts, anyone?
300 miles is a lot of test drive miles. That almost sounds like a mini-demo car. You almost have to assume that the car has seen some kind of abuse during a test-drive. All things equal, I would take a car with <25 miles over one with 300 miles any day.
Don't worry about hastening the break-in process. You'd rather control over it than somebody else. I mean, people don't care about a car when they test drive it. Redline it, foot-to-the-floor throttle...I'm sure this is somewhat common. If you can get a "fresh" car, do so.
If you want the 300 mile car, knock off more than $100...try $500. They might laugh, but then you can demand a true new one. I was the first person who test-drove my Accord...it had 3 miles on it. It was nice to take delivery on a car with 10 miles on the odo.
Yours could be exhaust pipe hangers, if one of them loose or missing you experience this type of vibration.
Anyone have any experience with the top of the line Accord - the EX V6 with leather in Automatic?
Thanks....