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  • qsmoothqsmooth Member Posts: 10
    yes. that's the sound that i'm hearing. from first and if i release the clutch a little too late, i'll hear that sound. is that a bad thing or is it just part of the car?
  • crv6crv6 Member Posts: 10
    I've owned several manual trans Honda's over the past 15 years, and I've had that sound on my last 95 Accord and 98 CRV, but not yet on my 01 Accord EX 5spd. When you let the clutch out slowly, it starts to grab - the slack in the drivetrain gathers up and creates a "knock" when it tightens up. There is a small amout of slack in the drivetrain - between the CV Joints and gears in the transmission. Usually it occurs as the car ages a bit - so I'm surprised you are getting it in a new car. But it is nothing to worry about, and your dealer can't/won't do anything about it.

    I just traded in my 95 Accord 5 spd, and that noise started occuring about 20k miles, and continued to 138k miles without any problem. The transmission still shifted like new (and still had the original clutch!).
  • hbund216hbund216 Member Posts: 162
    Mine seems to be actual engine knock. This happens on uphills or when I let the clutch out slow (thanks crv6)although it did not happen when the car was new. Here is what I think. The clutch throw has gotten longer on my car since new. So adjusting the clutch might help. Switching to a higher octane gas might help but I have not tried it. What I've done for now is to change the rate that I apply gas at or a slight tap on the accelerator before I start off uphill.

    As for is it bad. I don't think so but check with the dealer.

    Two questions to qsmooth. Have you increased the width of your tires? And how many miles do you have?
  • sactokensactoken Member Posts: 10
    Just guessing here, but often a car will sit around because they had some expensive options installed that no one liked. Either you liked the options, or they took the chrome wheels they were trying to sell for $2,000 off. Generally, I wouldn't worry about it in a Honda, but if it were a convertible I might wonder about "lot rot" effecting the rag top. Inspect the car and if you are really unhappy with some item nicely bring it to the attention of the salesman or sales manager. If you can't easily spot a problem, then forget it and enjoy your car...don't look for ways to become unhappy!
  • sactokensactoken Member Posts: 10
    Very little chance your leasing company will check the vehicle's service records, and nothing obligates you to provide that information. They will inspect for normal wear and tear...that means worry more about dings and scratches...not the 30,000 mile service.

    By the way, it sounds like you have a very low milage car. I'd check and see if the market value of the car was higher than your residual. If you can sell the car yourself for $11,000 and the residual is $10,000, most leases will allow you to give them a check for $10,000 and you keep the car; sell it and keep the profit. Check www.kbb.com for trade in vs retail value against your residual due amount. Doesn't work all the time because sometimes Honda Finance gives out some killer leases...but it's worth a look.
  • srradidesrradide Member Posts: 3
    I've got a 98 manual Accord and and the list of problems is:
    1) 12K, problem w/ the throttle, sending engine to 6-7K in first; dealer kept the car for 3 days for an ordered part (**this part has never gone bad before, so we don't have them here**!)
    2) 15K, FR wheel bearings replaced
    3) 25K, clutch died, traced broken clutch seal
    4) 31K, engine malfunction light came on, traced to a broken vent valve.
    Am I being paranoid when I detect a pattern (esp now that I'm approaching 3Y/36K) or do these 'things' happen? I am planning to write Honda QA. All help appreciated.
  • grisouegrisoue Member Posts: 18
    Everyone, here is my dilemma:
    -get the LX-ABS, which is a perfectly well-equipped vehicule for my personal needs (I don't have kids and I don't expect to tow anything)
    -pay 2,000 $CDN more for the LX-V6 which has everything the LX has, plus V6, side-airbags and traction control

    Question #1: is the traction control useful (winter driveability is one of my top criteria)?
    Question #2 for Canadians: how hard is it to get a good deal on an LX-ABS versus an LX-V6? Is it possible to pay 1,000 $CDN or more under MSRP?

    p.s. obviously I'm trying to rationalize spending money for fun
  • macsfriendedmacsfriended Member Posts: 6
    Purchased subject in St. Louis, MO on March 9, 2001. Car had additional $450 of dealer add-on junk that I paid $250 for with only minor league dickering.
    Quick, simple and everybody seems happy.

    You guys always asking what $$$ to pay - use the Edmonds TMV $$$ - it works.
  • mpgmanmpgman Member Posts: 723
    So what did you pay? I have seen them advertised for $14,799 plus freight and the ubiquitous dealer processing fee which can often be cut or eliminated. That means you can buy one for around $15,300-400 or for $200 more if it has side air bags. I think the VP is a much better buy than the Civic. How is your gas mileage?
  • qsmoothqsmooth Member Posts: 10
    Thanks for the information. to answer crv6 question, i have already 20,000 miles on the accord, so i'm tying it in with the '95 that you previously had. so if it's nothing to worry about, then i won't take it to the dealer. although the service rep at my local honda dealer did give false information, i should go there and question him again to test out if he really does belong in the service department. hbund216, i have not yet changed the width of my tires. will that make a sound as well too? because i have it lowered to 1 1/2 inches from stock and i was planning on purchasing some 18 inch wheels to fit the fender. and i've already answered your question on how many miles i have on it. it's roughly under 21,000 clicks. thank you both for your information. if you have anything to ask me, i'm free to help you with it.
  • davketdavket Member Posts: 3
    Is there any way to change the pollen filter on an '01 Accord? I have to believe that it would eventually get clogged and would need to be changed on a regular basis. Is there info in the manual on this?
  • hbund216hbund216 Member Posts: 162
    I was thinking bigger tires might put more stress on the drive train and cause more drive train noise. But I'm not sure. I just can't imagine lowering the car any more. Mine is stock and I still scrape the bottom of the front bumper sometimes. Still getting used to it after 6K miles. My previous car had small high over hangs.
  • hbund216hbund216 Member Posts: 162
    markz2k,
    I remember you saying back in post 858 that your wipers would wipe when you put them on intermittent and pumped the breaks (as did mine). I took mine to the dealer and they stated that Honda Engineers said it was due to the after market alarm on my car. Do you have an after market alarm installed on your car?

    davket,
    The info in the manual says to have the honda dealer change it every 30K.
  • snowmansnowman Member Posts: 540
    I think dealer is not %100 accurate. Not every aftermarket alarm systems causes problem. I had Viper installed my totaled Honda (it happenend last week) at CircuitCity. If installer knows the system and the car you won't have problem. I don't understand why majority of Honda dealers are trying to dump some problems to other manufacturers.
  • hbund216hbund216 Member Posts: 162
    Sorry about the car snowman. What are you replacing it with?

    The dealer also say that the tapping noise in my dash is coming from the siren that is attached to the firewall. The tapping noise got worse today after changing an interior panel. Maybe the siren gained weight :-)
  • clarence2clarence2 Member Posts: 7
    I have narrowed my search down to the Accord EX I/L. What I want to know is , what is a good price.

    My best deal so far is this:

    $288
    39 months
    $0 Down
    12k/year
    $1500 d.a.s including 1st month payment,Tax,Title,DMV,$300 Cap cost reduction.

    It seems that the Selling price is $100 over TMV pricing by Edmunds standards. Anybody seen any better?

    If I wait until next month, what are the chances of the lease rate going up due to Residual value decrease?

    Thanks
  • smithmdsmithmd Member Posts: 167
    I have a '98 EX 4-cyl. With the wipers set on the slowest intermittent setting, they (1) slow down and speed up slightly with the speed of the car and (2) without exception, they will wipe everytime I lift my foot off of the brake pedal to accelerate from a stop. I personally like these features. I don't want the wipers to wipe very quickly while I'm sitting at a stop, but when I go, it's nice to have the windsheild cleared. This isn't a problem with your cars, it's a built-in feature! By the way, dealers will ALWAYS blame ANY electrical issue on ANYTHING aftermarket (alarms, stereos, etc.) even if they don't know what they're talking about. hbund216, your dealer said that "Honda Engineers" blamed it on your alarm! This feature has been in the Accord since atleast the '98 model year and he doesn't know about it!?!
  • markz2kmarkz2k Member Posts: 112
    No, I don't have an aftermarket alarm. Just the factory-standard one that all EXV6's have. I don't think the "wipe on brake release" is an intended feature, personally. Mine doesn't do it EVERY time, but does most of the time. I haven't mentioned it to the dealer, and probably won't. Who knows what they'll break trying to fix that. If I hear of a TSB on it, then I'll have it checked.
  • hbund216hbund216 Member Posts: 162
    Thank you markz2k and smithmd.
    Seems like a nice feature to have the wipers wipe when you get under way. However, the dealer talked to honda engineers and they stated that this is not a normal feature and the car should not do this. Wiping faster as you speed up is a feature though. They said they would need to run diagnostics and if the alarm was the problem they would charge me $140 if not then Honda would look into it. I'm sure if Honda finds that this is happening on a lot of cars it will become a feature. :-) My worry is that this might be a component anomaly on a batch of cars.
  • jandrews5jandrews5 Member Posts: 3
    My 98 Accord's wipers will go to slowest intermittent speed when I come to a stop. When I start again, it will go back to original setting. This only works when in intermittent mode. I'm not sure if it is activated by brake pedal or speed of car, but I like the feature.
  • snowmansnowman Member Posts: 540
    Many thanks, my accord officialy total now. I am not considering to buy another vehicle at least this year. My wife's and my work is very close to each other, so we are sharing the car. One thing that leaves a ? in my mind that 99 had 4 star crash test result, 2001 has 5 star. Sheet metal is the same, frame is the same: how it is happening?

    I know how frustrating to deal with dealers. As far as I understand, dealer says tapping is caused by siren right? What about the people who installed the alarm system, did you ask them.
    You might find to try to unisntall the siren and drive your car that way. At least you will know whether it was the reason or not. My siren was installed right behind the windshiels washer tank, into frame.
  • hbund216hbund216 Member Posts: 162
    The 5 star rating is because of the introduction of the side air bags.
    I just might go to the alarm shop and have them take the siren out and see what happens. The odd thing is the noise use to be a squicking sound and only turned into a tapping sound when the dealer touched it. I'll give the dealer the benefit of the doubt until I get the siren removed. Thanx for the advise.
  • auburn63auburn63 Member Posts: 1,162
    Since 98 all Ex and most if not all LX have had speed sensitive intermitant wipers. If I remember correctly it goes like this..
    1.Wipers set to lowest intermitant setting swipe every 4 sec about with foot on brake and make an imediate swipe when let off brake to give a clear view starting off.

    2.After vehicle gets up to 13 mph they automaticly adjust the speed to the same speed as the low setting unless you move the intermitant speed up off the slowest then it goes as you set it.

    there is a service news that is out on this and a new release of this info just came out in the latest service news.
  • hbund216hbund216 Member Posts: 162
    Where did you get the service news from? Any reference numbers or dates?
  • auburn63auburn63 Member Posts: 1,162
    I work at a dealer and the service news papers come to us from Honda. They aren't bulletins with numbers(those are Service Bulletins), these are a monthly thing. This one was from Feb. 01. I dont think they make them available to the public but when something pertains to a specific customer complaint we usally copy the info and pass it on.
  • hbund216hbund216 Member Posts: 162
    When I said the word service news the dealer knew what I was talking about. He read it and said my problem was not in it. I read it and there it was, in plane English. One less nuisance to deal with. Thanks for the info and for being on your toes.
  • tgo63tgo63 Member Posts: 16
    Hello!
    I would like to know if there is a noticeable difference in noise level between accord 2000 and 2001 model year. Right now we own accord Y2K lx five speed and I'm thinking about replacing 1998 escort with another accord. My only negative about Y2K accord is that when driving over not so smooth roads the noise level is on the high side.
    Y2K accord, manual, bought new 10/30/99, current mileage 35000 miles
    Tom
  • saxoniisaxonii Member Posts: 31
    I am in the market for a new Accord AT Air VP model. Can anybody provide me with some info on the engine that the VP has. I am interested only in reliability. The 64K question is will it last 200K? Is it as smooth as the 150hp VTECH? Is there a weak point that VP has? Another question that pops to my mind, are there any engne modification that can be done to the VP engine (turbo ect) to boost it later on, or are most modifications available only to VTECH engines??? Thanx for your help guys. SaxonII
  • ral2167ral2167 Member Posts: 791
    if you're planning on putting 200k miles on the accord, be aware that i think the vp doesn't come with cruise control--- that many miles of traveling, you darn well need cruise--- go with the lx, pal.
  • jaslayjaslay Member Posts: 4
    I am in the market for a new sedan, and can't decide between the Accord EX-L (automatic) or the Passat GLS. I'm leaning towards the EX-L considering that I can get it for $21,400 versus the Passat $25,000 (with options that make it equal to the Accord). However, I'm having a real hard time warming up to the recent face-lift given to the 2001 models. I think its kinda plain, ugly, less sporty, and it really seems like a step back from the previous 98-00 model design. I'm looking into adding accessories to make it look more acceptable, but the dealer wants to charge outrageous amounts (fog lights $500, real spoiler $500, sport alloy wheels $900). Does anyone have any experience with installing these accessories themselves? Any help would be appreciated.
  • ral2167ral2167 Member Posts: 791
    seems to me when buying a sedan, one shouldn't get too hung up with looks.... i can see when buying a 2 door coupe, appearance might be more important-- but 4 door sedans are utilitarian-- looks are quite secondary-- the best looking 4 door sedan i've seen is the audi A4...i think the passat is not as nice looking as the accord-- but that's personal taste-- if i ever buy a 4 door sedan, looks would fall far down the list of priorities-- those 2 extra doors make most cars look plain, you bet.... you don't see many nascar races with 4 doors.... i think that says it all as far as sedans being sporty.....if you need 4 doors, that means you either are hauling kids or briefcases or clients-- you need to keep it under 60 most of the time anyway cause you don't want to lose a sale by scaring the customer--- buy a coupe if you want sporty, pal.
  • hbund216hbund216 Member Posts: 162
    The problem would be if you took your car for warranty repairs. For example they would blame electrical problems on your fog lights. Or suspension noise on the alloy wheels. I agree with your opinion on the redesign but the silver one looks pretty nice.
  • brmudabrmuda Member Posts: 50
    Just thought I'd advise everyone of possible probs with rear wheel bearings. My '98 Accord (which I purchased new) has been GREAT up until recently. I turned 42K miles & noticed a "hummimg" sound coming from the rear end when traveling 40MPH+. Local dealer confirmed (as I suspected) both rear wheel bearings needed replacement at a total cost of $500+ (parts & labor). Dealer originally told me I was SOL as I was beyond 36/36 warranty period. With that, I called Honda zone office.

    Honda zone office did admit that there was a service bulletin (NOT a recall) issued awhile ago for some rear wheel bearings not being properly sealed which caused them to collect dirt & leak lube. They also brought up fact that I was beyond warranty.

    I told them I thought this was way too early for bearings to go. They were suggesting I claim on my extended warranty but, I pushed the issue that I thought factory warranty should cover it. They agreed & contacted dealer to repair under orig warranty claim. Vehicle is back to normal.

    I have to say, this is first major prob I've had. Honda has been very good to me over the course of owning this. They even replaced all my alloy wheels for no charge shortly before factory warranty was up simply because they noticed they were pitting. They did this when I brought car in for scheduled maint.

    I would buy another Accord (this is my 2nd one).

    Just wanted to pass this word along to other owners in case you experience same problem.
  • achenatorachenator Member Posts: 128
    I have recently started price shopping for a 2001 Accord EX 4 cyl. auto w/ cloth. My local dealer quoted me 20,995. How good is this? How much better could I do? This is including "paint protection" and "fabric protection". Do most dealers do this after the car is paid for or when it gets to the lot? Also does anyone know if Honda will extend the special financing beyond Mar.31? Any input would be greatly appreciated. P.S. I am in Louisiana.
  • ral2167ral2167 Member Posts: 791
    i think most folks tend to think the fabric and paint protection are rip-offs---

    why not offer $20,000 flat for the 4 cylinder ex with cloth....if they don't go for it, then offer $300 less than what you're bottom line offer would have been-- if this dealer tacks on fabric and paint protection, you got to penalize them...

    if they say no, do as dionne warwick does-- just walk on by...
  • raybearraybear Member Posts: 1,795
    sounds like snake oil. The car should have a decent paint job from the factory and if you want fabric protecton get some scotchguard.

    Invoice on that car is $20,198.
  • compuman2000compuman2000 Member Posts: 9
    Hi Everyone,
    Thanks for all your comments, it has helped me immensely. I finally bought a 2001 EX a couple of days ago.

    I have only one question. When I press the lock button on my remote, the alarm does not chirp. All it does is flash the light to confirm that I have locked it. I asked the dealership if there was a way to make it chirp, and they were not sure.
    I would really, really appreciate it if you could tell me how to make it chirp, because it is difficult to know if I have locke it or not without the confirmation sound.

    Thanks in advance.
  • markz2kmarkz2k Member Posts: 112
    Push the lock button on the remote a 2nd time (within 5 seconds of the first push) That will "chirp" the horn so you know it's locked. It's in the manual. That's how it works in my 2000, I'm assuming it didn't change in '01.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    Why did you have to tell? One more annoying chirp we will have to listen to!
  • markz2kmarkz2k Member Posts: 112
    Sorry, didn't think of that. Oh well, I won't be able to hear him chirp. Besides, it IS in the manual. Do a lot of people chirp their Accords in Seattle? I never hear anyone do it here in So Cal. (Not with an Accord factory alarm, hear MANY chirps from aftermarket alarms here.)
  • compuman2000compuman2000 Member Posts: 9
    Markz,
    I saw that if I pressed the button a second time, it makes the horn sound. But I am looking for the chirp. Although I realize that this is annoying, please let me know if you have any idea how to make it 'Chirp'.

    Compuman2000
  • smithmdsmithmd Member Posts: 167
    There is no way to make the stock alarm system "chirp"...only honk. The stock alarm doesn't have a separate horn-type loud speaker for itself; it just uses the car horn.
  • ewillie1ewillie1 Member Posts: 2
    My wife and I bought a silver 2001 Accord LX last week for her to drive. I could not part with $900 for the alloy wheels, but I think the car would look much nicer with them.
    Does anyone know of a good online dealer that might sell the Honda wheels for less? I got mats and other accessories from Partscheap previously, but they don't list wheels on the website.
    TireRack has lots of styles, but I don't like the aftermarket look as much as the Honda wheels.
    Any suggestions?
  • jposterjposter Member Posts: 21
    www.hondapartsforyou.com (my personal favorite, free shipping!) I bought several things from them and found their customer service very efficient.

    www.manhonda.com
    www.partscheap.com
    www.hparts.com
    www.handa-accessories.com
  • reinauerjreinauerj Member Posts: 1
    I am in the middle of negotiations on a 2001 Accord LX that was a dealer shuttle for their service dept. I test drove it and like the car, although it has some normal wear and tear (a several inch scratch on the drivers door, and slightly soiled carpet on the driver's side). It has 5000 miles on it. Invoice is 17438 for a new one. I think that the 5000 miles and the visible discrepancies make it worth at least 1500 less than a new one. I know Accords do not depreciate much so I figured this is a fair statement. Also, should I included destination charges in my figure? Using their 4.9% financing I was thinking about 16,500-16,700 is the top I would pay? How far off am I if at all?
  • smithmdsmithmd Member Posts: 167
    If you want the stock wheels, you'll probably have a hard time finding them for less than $800 for 4. If you have a body shop that you've dealt with in the past, they might be able to help you out. My body shop was able to get a brand new wheel for our '98 EX for $180.
  • raybearraybear Member Posts: 1,795
    Invoice is $17,878, you must include freight. See if the dealer will throw in some extras, floor mats, extended warranty, etc. to sweeten the deal. Heck, you can buy a new one for invoice or just above in most places.
  • s15as15a Member Posts: 14
    Hi,

    We were looking to buy a Camry LE with side air bags, ABS in North Texas but can't find one without ordering from the factory. Got tired of dealing with N. Texas Toyota dealers(one guy did a bait and switcn on us --- we almost bought a camry le with abs when i noticed the the car we were buying did not have the "night vision" mirror we wanted), Gulf States Toyota dealers seem to be a pain to deal with ---try find a 4 cylinder LE with ABS & side airbags in Texas!

    So we are looking at the EX -- has all the goodies we want and those we don't want(sunroof).

    Question: how do present accord owners feel about the suspension? We will be carrying a 2-3 year old in the rear --- so we are particularly concerned about the suspension in the back.

    I know the Camry is reportedly quieter than the Accord EX, but was not sure by how much.

    Thanks.

    SP
  • grisouegrisoue Member Posts: 18
    You'll find the Accord has a harsher suspension than the Camry. However, car sickness is mostly due to suspensions that are too soft so your child should be fine.
  • abdsc15abdsc15 Member Posts: 1
    hi, i have a question about the accord style. i am interested in purchasing a 2001 accord ex. it has everything i want-engine,interior room, leather, cd player, but it lacks one thing-looks! does anyone know if honda is planning to alter the style next year? it might persuade me to hold off a little while...
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