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Is that so? I thought it is built in Ohio...
deal went smoothe and had no hidden charges.we were very surprised that price was not a come 'on type deal.wife loves the car.
slr
real men change their own oil-- oh yeah, you have an accord with an unreachable oil filter (solara's V6 engine has an oil filter that's right up front, easy to reach from the top).
If I were to go to a Jiffy Lube (example only) I would expect that I may have to wait 30-60 minutes to get the car into the bay, no big deal with that. Waiting 3 days to get a oil change from Honda is ridiculous, the nature of my business and hectic schedule does not allow me to take a work day off just for an oil change. I get it done when I have time, just like a car wash.
With so many other dealers that would be happy to do the service within an hour I will be happy to give them my money$$$. I plan to sell my Accord and unless another dealership pops-up locally I will not consider a Honda in the future.
BTW: It is interesting that you knew I was man ("real men"). I assume that because you drive a Solara you must be a woman.
I agree that a dealer should try to win/keep a customer's busines by having good service even though it is minor like an oil change.
The "ugly design of the engine" is first, a dubious assertion, and second, has nothing to do with a backup in a dealer's service dept. I had a plethora of 4 cyl Toyotas, where the upfront location of the oil filter was offset by the fact that pulling it off instantly covered the engine casting at the bottom with oil. I finally got to the point of telling every mechanic in advance not to return the car until they had pressure-washed the oil away from the "engine trap". If left there, it would eventually find its way on to the exhause manifold, with resulting foul smells. If this is somehow superior to the way Honda does it, it is not obvious to me.
Best solution are the expensive Germans, like MB, with their "on-top" filters that can be easily removed...but are just as messy if you don't take care in how you do it.
In any case, none of this has anything to do with how long it takes to get your oil changed at your dealer - that's strictly a function of how much investment the guy has chosen to make in facilities and people. Around here, quick turnaround on routine mtc is considered a requirement to being competitive. You have my sympathies if you live in a market where that's not true...
Oh, I forgot to mention it's a 2k Accord.
seriously tho, what's the deal with these "certified" used cars.... i test drove a used accord today... the salesperson extolled the virtues of the Honda certified plan where i guess they go over this car with a fine tooth comb....so i'm listening to this, thinking, this just makes the selling price higher, and then, after the test drive and i go to get out of the car, the seat belt doesn't retract at all! it just lays there at the base of the open door, half of it outside the car, and i'm thinking, what a joke, all that sales talk about certified, and something as simple as making sure the seat belt retracts is overlooked. i'm not picking on honda, as toyota has the same "certified" used car sales pitch.... am i nuts when i say this is overblown?
I agree that I bought the car from a lousy dealer south of Boston and that is why I will get away from the Honda line. The car itself seems to be very reliable and for an i4 it is quite peppy. But the Maxima is far better and it will not be hard for me to make the move.
fritz,
real men don't drive Accords, they drive Maximas.
see ya
From some of the posts I have read, all is not wonderful in 'Maxima Land'. There seems to be a prevalent theme of problems in the 5 speed and how the throttle responds. Original poster gave a very detailed explanation of why he considered it a design flaw.
Real men don't drive, they walk.
As for the Maxima post, the current Max will be outperformed by the newly redesigned Altima V6. So go ahead and buy one now.... maybe you will get a good price on it.
I walk too and love it! I am looking at the auto, not the 5 speed.
Since stats indicate that the Accord is driven equally by men as women, no offense intended.
inet,
You are correct the new Altima will be hard to beat. Intro cars have a tendancy to fail, but it does look nice and with the optional engine will pack quite a punch, base engine is 180 hp i4. The new Max will come stock with the 3.5 V6.
They stay home and take care of business driving whatever needs to be driven at home if you get the drift. SAXON II
my shopping my sisters V6 accord has had transmission problems. With 55k miles and serviced reguraly it went out and lucky the dealer replaced it free of charge. It has now been replaced again just 4K miles latter. The dealer so far is covering the cost. Has this been a problem with V6's. If so maybe the 4 cc. would be a better choice.
Sorry, I could not find any previous post on this subject. Thanks in advance!
I just purchased a 2001 Accord LX. After 8 years with a white car I thought I would try something different. The black Accord is attractive and hot (DUH!). I am considering Vent visors or something similar to allow a little ventilation while parked. When the car is running I will have the windows up and A/C on, (I never drive with the windows down). How much noise will the Vent visors create with the windows up?
Just so you won't think I'm a total idiot - the car is in covered parking at work and at home.
Thanks for your input.
I will be picking up my new 2001 Ex on saturday.
I am thinking of getting the 7y/100,000/0 warranty from honda. The dealer is asking for $900.
Did any one get this from honda? and how much did you pay?
i'm no expert tho, so if others have advice, please submit.
4 cyl Accords of early 90s I have seen going 160-170 with regular maintennance. So 98+ should have NO problem doing that.
Instead of putting 4wd on used early 90 Honda, it would be better to sell it for better price(which is very easy) and get an used SUBARU !
also - would anyone buy the extened warranty - to 100k miles???
thanks again.
Cheers.
Thanks in advance.
In terms of the ride the lx should be identical to the ex - 4cyl, as well as the performance in snow, etc.
again... thanks
6 disc Cd($400) & Cassette ( Worth $250 ?)
ABS, Alloys ($600?)
Security, Keyless, Trunck opener. ($350?)
Moonroof (Worth $800)
4 wheel disc brakes instead of drums in the rear
High power Audio?? (NOT SURE about this)
Decide for yourselves if these things are worth ?
EX resale should be better than LX due to many standard features.
One thing is for SURE. EX would be MUCH better deal for additional 1200 bucks over LX with ABS/Alloys
Their was a time when I would have always opted for the larger engine back when cars were strangled with early pollution control equipment and import automatics were awful. I think my 82 Accord 5-speed had only 82 horsepower and was only marginally lighter.
I just got out of an 93 Altima(4cyl/Auto) with 130k (it was totaled by hit & run)and no engine or transmission problems and little need for more power. My initial concern about the 4-cyl/Auto combination was unwarranted.
My guess is that few of us need (want is a different issue)the extra 6-cylinder power in the Accord. I made a conscious effort to buy cost effective transportation with good quality and longevity and feel pretty good about the LX-4 cylinder/auto.
One thought - if the four was in some way inadequate, wouldn't it show up in higher extended warranty prices? Does anyone know?
If the 6-cylinder was a stand alone $500 option - I would have splurged in a heartbeat(in spite of my earlier comments). As it is, Honda is using the six to turn perfectly good $17,000 cars into $22,000 profit machines. Good for them.
If you want or need the six - I'm sure you'll be happy(and I'll be mildly envious). If you can't afford it or don't want to spend the $, I think you'll stiil be very happy with the 4 cylinder.
Regards