Older Honda Accords

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  • venus537venus537 Member Posts: 1,443
    You have a valid point about the looks of the sedan. That's why my last Accord was the coupe. Even though in general I like sedans better, the coupe looked so much better. You'll have to wait till the Fall of 2002 for the next redesigned Accord (2003 Model year). Spy photos of the next Camry (coming this Fall I think) look promising.
  • slr9589slr9589 Member Posts: 121
    looking at a leather bound gold accord.. dealer wants 21888.00. good price?boston,ma. area.
  • enternamehereenternamehere Member Posts: 42
    price sounds real good. I can only hope the dealer isn't in Weymouth.
  • ipngipng Member Posts: 2
    Edmunds data shows the Accord is built in Japan.
    Is that so? I thought it is built in Ohio...
  • maryg2maryg2 Member Posts: 33
    Your quoted price of $21888 for the 01 EX-6 is excellent. I paid about $1,100 more just over three months ago, and from my reading on Edmunds, it was considered a good deal. Sales must be slowing down.
  • viper12861viper12861 Member Posts: 4
    Can somebody tell me where i can get RED 'H' emblems for the wheels for the 2001 exv6 accord coupe? I've been able to locate gold ones on a few online catalogs, but only have sen red on the road. Any help/sites would be appreciated. Thanks!
  • slr9589slr9589 Member Posts: 121
    did buy for 21888.00 at dealer in seekonk,ma.will not service there though,too far from house.
    deal went smoothe and had no hidden charges.we were very surprised that price was not a come 'on type deal.wife loves the car.
    slr
  • carguy62carguy62 Member Posts: 545
    The majority of Accords are built in Ohio. They bring over some from Japan depending on demand, etc. You can tell by the VIN, Japanese produced will begin with J.
  • frag235frag235 Member Posts: 81
    Well, my local dealer will change the oil in under 30 minutes. (I'm in Olympia, Washington)Although I have to call beforehand, I ususally can get in that day or the next. 15K service takes less then 1/2 day. Free car wash/vacumn/shuttle to work also. To bad about your dealer :( Maybe ask around about a good independent service/repair shop.
  • ral2167ral2167 Member Posts: 791
    quit whining-- so you have to make an appointment to get an oil change...what's the big deal? appointments are good-- that way you know the time to get there and no waiting...on the other hand, if you show up on the spur of the moment, how do you know there's not 3 ahead of you?

    real men change their own oil-- oh yeah, you have an accord with an unreachable oil filter (solara's V6 engine has an oil filter that's right up front, easy to reach from the top).
  • enternamehereenternamehere Member Posts: 42
    This is not whining. This is complaining, at it's best, and rightfully so. Oil changes can be done in less than 10 minutes. Appointments should not be necessary for such a simple routine.

    If I were to go to a Jiffy Lube (example only) I would expect that I may have to wait 30-60 minutes to get the car into the bay, no big deal with that. Waiting 3 days to get a oil change from Honda is ridiculous, the nature of my business and hectic schedule does not allow me to take a work day off just for an oil change. I get it done when I have time, just like a car wash.

    With so many other dealers that would be happy to do the service within an hour I will be happy to give them my money$$$. I plan to sell my Accord and unless another dealership pops-up locally I will not consider a Honda in the future.

    BTW: It is interesting that you knew I was man ("real men"). I assume that because you drive a Solara you must be a woman.
  • ineto6ineto6 Member Posts: 161
    do-it-yourself oil change is not fun now that you have to properly dispose of it - which is fine, but a hassle.

    I agree that a dealer should try to win/keep a customer's busines by having good service even though it is minor like an oil change.
  • ral2167ral2167 Member Posts: 791
    seems to me that the reason honda has a 3 day wait on oil changes is the ugly design of the engine that requires much dexterity and pain to locate the oil filter (a flashlight helps here also).... this is unlike the manly solara engine that has the oil filter front and center....the fact that buyers purchase a car in which you need a search party to locate the oil filter, then wonder why there's a 3 day wait to change the oil, seems mysterious to me-- one would think the reason is obvious.... the feminine honda engine requires a gentle touch so that the oil filter can eventually be seen,usually from the ground up after some wires and pistons have been moved....i will say this, tho-- honda accord coin boxes are easy to locate....better than the manly solara in this regard. let's hear it for the accord coin box.
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Member Posts: 2,363
    Any waiting for a dealer appointment for an oil change is a sign you are going to the wrong dealer, or just are unlucky enough to live in an area without a good competitive environment. In my area [Sacramento, CA], there are five dealers within 30 miles, and all have "express lube" services for oil changes, with total in-out times that are comparable to the "quickie" shops, and the pricing is comparable, as well. My selling dealer is [fortunately] only 4 miles from our house, and is more than happy to handle oil changes on a drop-in basis, with a cost of $20-$25. As usual, a competitive marketplace is the key...

    The "ugly design of the engine" is first, a dubious assertion, and second, has nothing to do with a backup in a dealer's service dept. I had a plethora of 4 cyl Toyotas, where the upfront location of the oil filter was offset by the fact that pulling it off instantly covered the engine casting at the bottom with oil. I finally got to the point of telling every mechanic in advance not to return the car until they had pressure-washed the oil away from the "engine trap". If left there, it would eventually find its way on to the exhause manifold, with resulting foul smells. If this is somehow superior to the way Honda does it, it is not obvious to me.

    Best solution are the expensive Germans, like MB, with their "on-top" filters that can be easily removed...but are just as messy if you don't take care in how you do it.

    In any case, none of this has anything to do with how long it takes to get your oil changed at your dealer - that's strictly a function of how much investment the guy has chosen to make in facilities and people. Around here, quick turnaround on routine mtc is considered a requirement to being competitive. You have my sympathies if you live in a market where that's not true...
  • fritz1224fritz1224 Member Posts: 398
    I don't know what engine you are refering to, but my V6 is a breeze to change. Just cut the wheel to the right and there's the filter. Don't have to move squat. And the drain plug's easy to get to as well. No jacking up the car. I guess if you are refering to the 4, than maybe what you say is true, don't know. But, IMHO, real men don't drive 4 bangers anyway.
    Oh, I forgot to mention it's a 2k Accord.
  • ral2167ral2167 Member Posts: 791
    just was having some good natured posts with my accord friends....

    seriously tho, what's the deal with these "certified" used cars.... i test drove a used accord today... the salesperson extolled the virtues of the Honda certified plan where i guess they go over this car with a fine tooth comb....so i'm listening to this, thinking, this just makes the selling price higher, and then, after the test drive and i go to get out of the car, the seat belt doesn't retract at all! it just lays there at the base of the open door, half of it outside the car, and i'm thinking, what a joke, all that sales talk about certified, and something as simple as making sure the seat belt retracts is overlooked. i'm not picking on honda, as toyota has the same "certified" used car sales pitch.... am i nuts when i say this is overblown?
  • enternamehereenternamehere Member Posts: 42
    jrct9454,
    I agree that I bought the car from a lousy dealer south of Boston and that is why I will get away from the Honda line. The car itself seems to be very reliable and for an i4 it is quite peppy. But the Maxima is far better and it will not be hard for me to make the move.

    fritz,
    real men don't drive Accords, they drive Maximas.

    see ya
  • fritz1224fritz1224 Member Posts: 398
    Well, then maybe you're in the wrong board.
    From some of the posts I have read, all is not wonderful in 'Maxima Land'. There seems to be a prevalent theme of problems in the 5 speed and how the throttle responds. Original poster gave a very detailed explanation of why he considered it a design flaw.

    Real men don't drive, they walk.
  • ineto6ineto6 Member Posts: 161
    even GM has certified used cars, I believe. You just have to find out how many point inspections they use and how much extended warranty they will have for the car... for any used vehicles.. read the fine prints :)

    As for the Maxima post, the current Max will be outperformed by the newly redesigned Altima V6. So go ahead and buy one now.... maybe you will get a good price on it.
  • enternamehereenternamehere Member Posts: 42
    fritz,
    I walk too and love it! I am looking at the auto, not the 5 speed.

    Since stats indicate that the Accord is driven equally by men as women, no offense intended.

    inet,
    You are correct the new Altima will be hard to beat. Intro cars have a tendancy to fail, but it does look nice and with the optional engine will pack quite a punch, base engine is 180 hp i4. The new Max will come stock with the 3.5 V6.
  • saxoniisaxonii Member Posts: 31
    Real men do not drive Accords, Maximas, walk etc.
    They stay home and take care of business driving whatever needs to be driven at home if you get the drift. SAXON II
  • enternamehereenternamehere Member Posts: 42
    This is also off topic. But.. your version of "real men" need to get out of the house more often. They will also need a mode of transportation.
  • aniazianiazi Member Posts: 39
    I have just bought Accord LX 2001. Car is really nice and great. When I start the car I hear a thump kind of noise as soon as car starts. Has anybody else experience that?
  • auburn63auburn63 Member Posts: 1,162
    I know there is a cure for the 2000 making a similar noise as you say so it may also apply tp the 01. Call up and ask your service advisor if the same bulletin applies.
  • rick0068rick0068 Member Posts: 2
    I am thinking about purchasing a V6 EX accord,and have been doing a little shopping. Since I started
    my shopping my sisters V6 accord has had transmission problems. With 55k miles and serviced reguraly it went out and lucky the dealer replaced it free of charge. It has now been replaced again just 4K miles latter. The dealer so far is covering the cost. Has this been a problem with V6's. If so maybe the 4 cc. would be a better choice.
  • tedcohntedcohn Member Posts: 2
    Does anyone know whether a '92 Honda Accord EX Sedan can be retrofited for AWD? We're moving to the mountains and have heard that this procedure can be had for a few thousand dollars. If so, sure beats buying a new or used 4wd car I would think. Anyone knowledge on this? What shops can do this? Know any good ones? Maybe this is a wet dream!

    Sorry, I could not find any previous post on this subject. Thanks in advance!
  • aniazianiazi Member Posts: 39
    Thanx auburn63. I will ask my service advisor.
  • murocflyermurocflyer Member Posts: 20
    I have a '99 Accord EX with 38K miles on it that I purchased new. I perform all my own maintenance. Since I put so many miles on it, I usually change/replace all the fluids every spring, except for the oil and filter which I replace every 3,000 or less. Since I plan to keep this vehicle (actually have it longer than my loan is for) is there anything I need to be aware of in the long term, or any type of maintenance I should be doing to prevent any problems that have been encountered by someone? In other words, what should I do now to prevent my vehicle from breaking down, leaving my wife and 4 YO son stranded, or incur costly repairs. Any information you can pass along will be greatly appreciated.
  • rmscsrmscs Member Posts: 6
    What are your experiences with Vent visors or their kin?

    I just purchased a 2001 Accord LX. After 8 years with a white car I thought I would try something different. The black Accord is attractive and hot (DUH!). I am considering Vent visors or something similar to allow a little ventilation while parked. When the car is running I will have the windows up and A/C on, (I never drive with the windows down). How much noise will the Vent visors create with the windows up?

    Just so you won't think I'm a total idiot - the car is in covered parking at work and at home.

    Thanks for your input.
  • ineto6ineto6 Member Posts: 161
    Vent visors will cause a little more wind noise... more noticeable on the freeway even with windows up. We have a Camry that had it.... a Maxima and an Odyssey. It's not that bad of a noise so you might even like it for hot weather or rainy weather.
  • timadamstimadams Member Posts: 294
    What the heck is a vent visor?
  • amz997amz997 Member Posts: 61
    Hondacare warranty

    I will be picking up my new 2001 Ex on saturday.
    I am thinking of getting the 7y/100,000/0 warranty from honda. The dealer is asking for $900.

    Did any one get this from honda? and how much did you pay?
  • iammuskyhunteriammuskyhunter Member Posts: 1
    Good Evening. I've purchased two Honda Civics for my wife and she now has a CR-V. No problems at all! I'm considering trading in my Chevy 4X4 for a more economical car. I test drove a 01' Accord LX Coupe w/ a 4 cylinder. I drive 100 miles round trip to work every day. I like the mileage of the 4 cylinder, but am wondering if the 4 cylinder is up to 150K miles? Any experiences would be appreciated.
  • ckocckoc Member Posts: 5
    Thanks to everyone for all the great advice I have received from your postings!! I have decided to purchase an Accord EX, 4cyl, manual. Based on the research it looks like a fair price would be $19,255 for cloth or 20,282 for leather - I assume that does not include destination, tax & tags (CORRECT?) If that is correct what should I offer for a demo in either of those with approx 6,000 miles? I am hoping to buy this by the end of this week - any quick response is greatly appreciated... also, any details of your recent accord buys would be great!!
  • ral2167ral2167 Member Posts: 791
    my advice is, since it's a 5 speed, with 6000 miles...i'd figure out what invoice new is (less than 100 miles), then deduct $1200 (20 cents a mile). 5 speeds are fun to drive-- but you will take a beating come trade in time. plus, i have to believe dealers aren't getting a whole lot of customers coming in with offers on EX sedans with manual trannies, with 6000 miles. i also am curious whether you'd get the 3.9% financing, since it has 6000 miles on it. i recently looked at a 2001 honda demonstrator with 6000 miles-- the salesperson stated that the warranty would extend to 42,000 miles, not the customary 36,000. so make sure you get that, at least, if you buy.

    i'm no expert tho, so if others have advice, please submit.
  • smithmdsmithmd Member Posts: 167
    A few years ago, I had a girlfriend that had an Accord with 195k on the odometer. Her father gave her the car with about 150k on the odometer. She had to replace the engine at about 180k. My guess is that it wasn't totally the car's fault. She had a problem remembering to get the routine maintenance done.
  • soberssobers Member Posts: 496
    Extended waranty (7 -100K) was offered to me for 715 without any negotiations ! I did not want it, actually it could be gotten around 600-650.

    4 cyl Accords of early 90s I have seen going 160-170 with regular maintennance. So 98+ should have NO problem doing that.

    Instead of putting 4wd on used early 90 Honda, it would be better to sell it for better price(which is very easy) and get an used SUBARU !
  • ckocckoc Member Posts: 5
    Thanks for the input!! after some thought I may go with the automatic for better resale value.... Do you think it will handle as well in the snow as a manual? I live in the northeast - this winter was a tough one, but my little civic made it through.
    also - would anyone buy the extened warranty - to 100k miles???
    thanks again.
  • arnolsarnols Member Posts: 7
    I live in Boston, and I upgraded from a Civic LX to a Accord EX automatic during the winter. The Accord handled the snow so much better (I was on the Mass Pike March 6th...). It felt sure footed and I didn't have any problem going up slopes in half a foot of fresh snow. With my great experience with Hondas, I wouldn't buy an extended warranty. But it also depends how long you want to keep the car and how much you drive (I drive almost 30000 miles a year and keep a car 3 years usually and never had a problem with a Honda).
    Cheers.
  • ckocckoc Member Posts: 5
    Ok - I am getting myself more confused and need some more input... LX over EX, are the alloy wheels, 6 versus 1 cd changer, and abs worth the extra cash?? the moonroof is not a deciding factor for me..
    Thanks in advance.

    In terms of the ride the lx should be identical to the ex - 4cyl, as well as the performance in snow, etc.
    again... thanks
  • soberssobers Member Posts: 496
    Differences are:
    6 disc Cd($400) & Cassette ( Worth $250 ?)
    ABS, Alloys ($600?)
    Security, Keyless, Trunck opener. ($350?)
    Moonroof (Worth $800)
    4 wheel disc brakes instead of drums in the rear
    High power Audio?? (NOT SURE about this)

    Decide for yourselves if these things are worth ?
    EX resale should be better than LX due to many standard features.

    One thing is for SURE. EX would be MUCH better deal for additional 1200 bucks over LX with ABS/Alloys
  • rmscsrmscs Member Posts: 6
    I just took delivery last week of a Accord LX 4-cylinder with automatic. I think it has plenty of power. I commute about 25 miles each way on the interstate in Florida.

    Their was a time when I would have always opted for the larger engine back when cars were strangled with early pollution control equipment and import automatics were awful. I think my 82 Accord 5-speed had only 82 horsepower and was only marginally lighter.

    I just got out of an 93 Altima(4cyl/Auto) with 130k (it was totaled by hit & run)and no engine or transmission problems and little need for more power. My initial concern about the 4-cyl/Auto combination was unwarranted.

    My guess is that few of us need (want is a different issue)the extra 6-cylinder power in the Accord. I made a conscious effort to buy cost effective transportation with good quality and longevity and feel pretty good about the LX-4 cylinder/auto.

    One thought - if the four was in some way inadequate, wouldn't it show up in higher extended warranty prices? Does anyone know?

    If the 6-cylinder was a stand alone $500 option - I would have splurged in a heartbeat(in spite of my earlier comments). As it is, Honda is using the six to turn perfectly good $17,000 cars into $22,000 profit machines. Good for them.

    If you want or need the six - I'm sure you'll be happy(and I'll be mildly envious). If you can't afford it or don't want to spend the $, I think you'll stiil be very happy with the 4 cylinder.

    Regards
  • bluebeastbluebeast Member Posts: 258
    UNLESS you are on a very strict budget my advise is to get what you want. Don't let price of options dictate your purchase OR what you will get at resale time. If a 5spd is not as desirable as a automatic, then you will get the discount on the front end of the purchase. It will depreciate at the same rate as the automatic. Nothing is worse than buying a new car and "saving money" by not getting the moonroof option or whatever, and then you wish you had it. Or worse yet, you go back to the dealer 6 months later and pay way more to have the option installed (like a CD player) than you could have had it new. My motto is to get what I want and work on making the payment fit what I can afford (5yrs instead or 4.....or 5yrs with a ballon payment...etc). Remember, your buying this car for YOU to enjoy, not to buy the color & options for better resale for the next owner.
  • soberssobers Member Posts: 496
    But sometimes you have to take into account some economics. I got SE because it was THE perfect car I wanted. I didnot want a sunroof but wanted a CD player & Keyless Security, Alloys. Got cd player installed for 250. But if somebody is looking for LX with ABS/Alloys 1200 is not a small change of money for Sunroof; 6 disc, mats, Security, Keyless Entry, POwer Seat
  • soberssobers Member Posts: 496
    Be aware, the price diff is $722 but you WILL get hit much more when it come to resale. DEMAND is one imp thing when it comes to resale. 5-speeds are not in demand. My frined had to get rid of his Protege for 2000 less what he could have gotten for auto. There is a good chance of Honda 5 speed getting sold easily but just be ready to keep it for a longer period of time. OR better yet lease it.
  • bluebeastbluebeast Member Posts: 258
    sobers, I agree that options and/or certain models are worth more and/or less years down the road, but, is that important, or the fact you did not get what you wanted so you could enjoy it for the years you own it?
  • lacarguylacarguy Member Posts: 9
    sobers,you are dead on. I once tried to sell my previous 5 speed Honda Accord EX to purchase a automatic Honda Accord Ex. And I had the hardest time trying to sell my 5 speed. The Accord is not a car that most people want as a stick shift. I lost a lot of money on that deal trying to sell it to private parties.
  • qsmoothqsmooth Member Posts: 10
    Hello all, it's me again with another question to pose for you. my 2000 LX accord is in the best shape it can be. but, just recently, i can here a squeaking noise whenever i accelerate and sometimes when i turn. i'm thinking it's not the suspension. but i do notice that when i press the brakes, i hear the same sqeaking sound. i'm hoping it's the brake pads. oh yeah, since my car is a 2000 and if the problem is the brake pads, how come they are wearing out so fast. i normally don't race my car and i don't do any hard breaking. i'm just wondering what the heck is that sound. i'm taking the car to the dealer for a scheduled maintenance. just want to know what your guys thoughts are on my situation. thanks again.
  • vonlinzvonlinz Member Posts: 12
    I own a '92 Accord LX 4 cylinder, 5 spd. The car just surpassed 162,300 miles. It's been a great, relatively-trouble free car. The car starts without incident, all gauges including the clock are accurate and the engine still churns out 31 MPG highway, one MPG better than sticker. In fact, I wish the car would be more troublesome so I could more easily justify purchasing a new Accord. :)
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