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Several times when I started it today, the Lexus image appears briefly, as usual, and then it went to the climate screen, but all the controls were greyed out and non-responsive (like some of the NAV buttons are when the vehicle is in motion). And the each side "mechanical" buttons to select radio screen or NAV screen, etc. wouldn't switch to their views, either.
I re-started the car and it then came up normally.
After my next stop.....again, it failed to boot up on the first start, giving me greyed out controls. So again, I restarted it and it came up properly.
I have now tried it twice in the garage at home and it came up OK both times.
Any ideas....??? I always worried about putting all the "eggs in one basket" like that, especially the HVAC system......lol.......
I have eMailed my dealer and I await his response, but I thought I would post this on the Forum as well. I expect the dealer to just say "replace CPU #14A-1250 for a billion dollars and it will go away."
I really appreciate the folks who manage this Forum and especially the concerned owners who check it regularly and offer useful, cost-saving advice.
Thanks from "mikeyinMO," which is in SE Missouri, steeling himself for a hot, humid summer with no A/C in his still beautiful Champagne Gold LS.
Renny
"A set of button pushes can override the lockout on most 2005 Lexus NAVs until the next time the vehicle is restarted by pushing the buttons in the following order: menu > volume > top left of screen, bottom left, top left, bottom left > override ((hold for several seconds until override is highlighted and beep occurs) > back. Destinations can then be entered while moving.
No one has yet found a way to dial the phone while moving."
However, if your nav DVD has been upgraded to version 06.1 then this no longer works.
Push some buttons and press some options until you get a button called "DVD ver." or something like that. Do you have any children in your family? They will have no problem finding it. It's the training they get from playing those cursed games all the time.
I might add they are good on wet pavement, no hydroplaning problems. They also have a 60,000mi tread warranty!!
thanks all
Secondly - values are reconsidered all the time, and as fast as the market adjusts, values adjust. Public perception governs demand for used cars, and demand governs value. Supply and Demand ultimately determine what your car is worth to you - and whatever you are willing to let it go for, and whatever your buyer is willing to pay for it. These prices are averaged to some degree, and results are published. Regional issues apply as well.
Then, there's used, and very used. Used cars take a big hit at around 60,000 and 90,000 miles. Condition plays a tremendous role in an actual car's value. Model changeovers can affect value tremendously. There was quite a difference between the 03 and the 04 Lexus LS, in options, technology and a little in style as well. The 04 is more sought after, therefore, commands more money, and ergo; is valued higher.
So, in other words, why wait? The longer you wait, the less a given car will cost you because it ages. OTOH, you can't enjoy it until you own it, so......it's really up to you and how much you are willing to pay.
I just traded in my 2005 LS430 (modern lux package with 27,0000 miles).. KBB, NADA and edmunds valued the clean trade-in at around 5K more than "REALITY". Manheim's price is what the dealer offered and paid.
Bottom line for my particular case is that KBB, NADA, and Edmunds were WAY off. Carmax wants you to give your car away for free and Manheim was right on.
...because that's what the dealer offered you...?
Carmax offered $32K
Dealer # 2 offered $35K
Dealer # 3 offered $35.2
I never hinted at what I wanted for the car, just asked them for their best offer.
New car purchase was negotiated separately to avoid confusion.
Both dealers showed me the manheim auction list printout for my area-- don't know if they made it up but since they both came in so close to each other I figured the price was legit.
I wish dealers would use KBB, Edmunds, or NADA numbers -- it'd make trading in a car a much more transparent process....
I wonder if there's a forum here where the people are discussing the good, bad, and ugly of the different car valuing services out there on the web? Did a search with no luck.....
There is this one in Smart Shopper: Edmunds vs. Kelley Blue Book Pricing. The host, Kirstie, said she'd be willing to add NADA to the title. Check it out.
Yes, Manheim, using auction prices as a basis, would undoutedly be the "best" deal for the dealer.
But NEVER the seller or trade-in owner.
My hunch is that it must be the switch itself, on the theory that intermittent problems are usually mechanical, not electronic. Or it might be frayed wiring?
I would appreciate any suggestions, hints, clues, guesses, . . . whatever.
Thanks -- Renny
PS: This started about a year ago, and has been gradually getting more frequent.
Merry Christmas -- Renny
Many others have commented on the seat being uncomfortable. I too took each car back to the dealer and got the "It is designed to be like that" story.
By the way, the LS460L has a more comfortable seat. Not Cadillac-like, but good enough so I no longer need my towel.