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thanks and best wishes for many safe and happy miles
In fact, when I showed him these two webpages, he says that both have got their facts wrong.
Now I'm definitely having second thoughts about this purchase, since there are lots of alternatives available for much less than the $47,000 price they are asking. I would like to know who is correct, Edmunds or my dealer? Is it possible that Volvo changed the standard equipment after Edmunds reviewed the car?
http://new.volvocars.com/models/
Unfortunately, the US web site has not been updated for 2002, but you can still contact VOLVO directly through their site and ask them your question. Good luck.
The question that I have relative to the 2002 specs is that of rear cup holders--rear cup holders appear to be std on the base 2.4 and not available on the 2.4T, T5 or the AWD--this seems real strange to me anyone know if this is a misprint. My kids are going to be real upset w/o rear cup holders. Plan to order a 2002 T5 via OSD on Tuesday 10/23 with anticipated p/u in Sweden in mid December.
I can't wait to pick it up tomorrow!
wishing you many safe and enjoyable miles
I went in thinking '02, but when the salesperson gave me that price on the leftover, I couldn't resist. Plus I got 5.9 financing for 60 months.
Actually, the S60 probably has the new installation system (FIX something), where you don't use the belts. This limits the choice of seats, but Volvo might sell one designed for the car. Wouldn't hurt to ask.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Here is a new article on the Volvo Overseas Delivery Program at Swedespeed:
Volvo Overseas Delivery Program
It might answer some of your questions.
Coming from a 99 Passat 1.8T, the increase in horsepower and acceleration is beyond description. I have noticed a little bit of the turbo lag that many speak of, but even still there is passing power everywhere with this car.
My question is, what is everyone using for tire pressures? I have tried the recommended 38psi, but my car feels real jiggly at that point and I don't feel in total control of the car. 36 is a little better at low speeds, but still loose on the highway. I am now down to 32psi and car is close to what I expected in terms of grip and control. I really don't want to go all the way down to 29, which is the other recommended setting for fear of putting my rims at risk of potholes.
questions abpout volvo reliability, has any one
had problems the first year?
Good luck!
I'd try experimenting with differing front/rear pressure combos. You say it feels "loose" on the freeway. Do you mean that the rear of the car feels light (typical loose/oversteer feeling)? I'd try increasing the fronts a lb. or so until that feeling goes away. If it feels light in front (tight/understeer), add air to the rear tires. Now, if you're traveling at high speeds (100+ mph) then it's an aero-issue probably that you're experiencing. My car isn't the same as your (a '96 854T) but similar in weight, geometry and weight distribution, and I use 34/32 front/rear on my car and it's very well balanced.
Best of luck and enjoy your T5!
/J
When it was a 38, my car did not respond very well to small steering inputs and seemed to wander a bit at highway speeds(50-70mph) leaving me feeling very uncomfortable.
As I said earlier, now that I am at 32, my car feels much like I expected it to and I don't think that I will go lower. I will try increasing the front a bit to see if it helps. Thanks...
Last month when I picked up my T5, my dealer had 14 inbound AWDs, only three of them were sold(in NJ). So I can only assume that your dealer is BS'ing you, hoping that you will fall for it. Don't...
thanks!!!!
'jitteryness" of the T5. I currently have a Passat 1.8T, just as you did. I've test drove the T5 a number of times and noticed the "jitteryness" of the steering. Coming from the Passat, which I think has a nice firmness in the steering, not BMWish and too much body roll, but you know when you're taking a corner and it tracks well. While driving the T5 I found the steerng to be too soft, loose, jittery, not firm. Also felt the body roll was comparable to the Passat, too much. These test drives were pre sport suspension, so I hope that has firmed up the ride somewhat. Don't get me wrong, I really love the T5, styling, safety, and power, and will probably get one in the near future. But I hope they improve the steering/handling.
I have had it for about a month now(1300 miles) and I have adjusted to the lighter steering. I have found that my car is best at 32psi all around and gives excellent grip now. The T5 does have some body roll, but once it takes a set, it tracks well and without drama. I got a 2001 without the sports suspension, maybe I will fix that later in the aftermarket. If you are going to order a car, definately get this option.
I really liked my Passat, but I would not give the T5 back for anything short of a new M3.
$35,300 as a courtesy. Personally I'm asking myself whether I should spend $35K on this vehicle or $30K on a VW Passat GLX. Any opinions out there?
Additionally, for what's what it's I really like the performance of my non turbo. I have 16" tires and a 5 speed which helps get the most out of the engine while improving stability and handling. There is however a technical service bulletin #2830 (NHTSA SB621845) that addresses new software for improved acceleration from 0 to 60 MPH. Anybody out there know anything about it?
Volvo XC90 Pictures at Swedespeed
Also, from what I understand, what you've been told is correct. Adding the factory stereo after the fact is VERY expensive. My dealer wouldn't even toy with the idea. The factory 10 disc changer alone is $800 not including cost of installation. I'd like a trunk changer myself and did a little looking around. So far the only compatible changer that the stock head unit can run is an Alpine 6 disc changer. It has M-bus compatibility which is what I think allows the stock system to control it. It goes for about $250. I haven't looked to see if the harness for the changer is already in the car. If so, I may just do it myself. If not, I may wait to see if a 10 disc compatible changer comes out in the near future and then have someone install it for me.
By the way, I have a 3 week old T5, that I thoroughly enjoy, that I traded my Passat for. I find it interesting that so many Passat owners gravitate to the S60. I think it goes to show that both cars have a real similar appeal.
Considering the poor reliability reputation of the S80, and the negative discussion over on the S40 board, I am concerned about the reliability of the S60. JD Power and Consumers Report don't have the data I need to feel comfortable.
Can S60 owners comment on their experience?
Reliability is clearly on the side of the Maxima -main reason I switched.
Boy, that SE must be loaded because the base Volvo S60 is close to $30K, OK maybe $29K with manual.. How can an SE be that much?
Based on the growing pains of the S40 and S80 and the problems with the S70 I would consider waiting a while until Volvo proves their reliability.
Of course, you realize maint costs will be higher too on a Volvo....
Good luck!
The I35, on the other hand, seemed to be a bit nicer Maxima, and I preferred its interior (eg, better gauges and popup nav system), and it's only a little more expensive.
--Andy
I'll probably buy the rear speakers from the dealer (about $200.00 with the grills) and let the after market guy install them.
I would say that if you are looking for adequate but not hot off the line performance the base S60 would be quite adequate. The car was equipped with the premium package (leather, moonroof, 100 watt CD) as well as optional 16in wheels.
Car stickers around 32, I think. A 2.4T comparably equipped would go for at least $2500 more.
I don't see the value unless you are a speed freak and I don't think the 2.4T is that fast. To get real speed you need the T5.
Both sedans provide about the same hp and torque as well as a 5 sp. automanual transmission. Both have earned excellent crash protection ratings and offer similar safety equipment (with the edge going to the S60 for its whiplash protection front seats.) Although the S60 comes with auto-off headlights and dual-zone climate control, the Passat seems to come with more features overall and has a somewhat better warranty. The biggest trade-off seems to be the cramp rear seats which nonetheless do fold down in the S60 versus the fairly comfortable rear seats with a measly center pass-through in the 4-Motion sedan.(This is probably the greatest failing of the 4-Motion sedan IMHO.) The problems encountered with the S40 and S80 in recent years also makes me wonder more about the reliability of the S60 as compared to the Passat. The potential offering of Xenon headlights and Dynamic Stability Control with the S60 may shift this comparison more in its favor, but meanwhile the Passat seems to be the better value.
Possibly former Passat/current S60 owners could enlighten me (some a little more) as to what swayed them on this matter. However, one subject that I would respectfully differ with others on is the exterior treatment of each car. I would take the chrome trim of the B5.5 any day over the black molding accents on the S60. That detail alone detracts greatly from an otherwise pleasing exterior.
I had considered a new Passat, but like some others here, the chrome does not sit well with me. I liked the styling of the <2001.5 models. Definately a personal choice thing...
I was going to wait for the W8 Passat, but I talked to a few dealers about preliminary pricing and all of them were in the $40k range and up and unwilling to come down. I don't know how Volkswagen dealers are going to move W8s if they insist on charging $40k for them.
I did eventually get a leftover T5 for $2.5k under invoice(~$33.2k) because my Passat was out of warranty(2yr) and starting to cause problems for me. Ignition coils, rough idle, etc.
If similar price breaks are offered next year on the S60 AWD, then I can see the Volvo as the more logical choice. (And if the S60 makes one far more emotionally satisfied than a Passat could ever offer, then I understand choosing the S60 regardless of the price difference - as long as you got the $$$.)
So I have decided to wait for DSTC, with no clear info yet when it's available...
Has anyone made direct comparison Geartronic vs regular Automatic on AWD or 2.4T??
STC: applies/release brakes, reducing fuel to engine as necessary to eliminate wheel-slip at all speeds.
DSTC: does the above but also monitors steering input to "guess" where the driver is trying to steer and factors the desired path into the wheel-slip control activities. For instance, if your trying to turn right and the back end starts to break loose, DSTC will apply brakes/reduce throttle input, as necessary, to keep you turning to the right on your intended path. STC will simply try to compensate for the wheel slippage and leave the rest up to you. AWD will pretty much give you the STC experience with the addition of actual power transfer decisions(in addition to braking/throttle decisions) switching from front to back and side to side. Adding DSTC to this configuration adds a micro processor factoring in where you intended to be steering when traction was lost.
I'm driving a 2.4t with STC and have no qualms(I live in Florida). If I still lived upstate NY, I'd probably have thought a little more about getting AWD and may have gone "full-boat" by shooting for the DSTC option. My previous car was an s70, and all it had was low-speed traction control. I never had any problems in foul weather but I knew better than to push the envelope too aggressively. That is the key with any configuration you choose. If you're an aggressive driver, load it up.