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It would be a few lines of code added to the computer, I'd bet it could even be a 'patch' an the computer eeprom could be burned again.
Anyway, thanks for all the advice received.
Waxy
1. How hard is it to keep the black leather clean? I like the black but I will go with the beige if I have to clean my interior once a week.
2. Does anyone have experience working with good dealers in Southeastern Mass that they would recommend?
Thanks,
Evan
IMHO leather is the easiest of ALL auto interiors to keep clean - 'specially with kids. Or pets. =;-)
Our 2001 tiburon had light(engine light) come on. The engine coolant was low....only problem was the light stayed on after driving 15 miles after refill, sat 8 hrs, still came on.
guess it took awhile for the fluid to cycle through and tell the computer to keep quiet.
My cars have NO tether on gas caps and no problems.
About the guy who didn't get Sonata due to deceptive dealerships.... that was bad how they treated you. We drove 120 miles one way for our car.
Why? Simple, the closer dealerships(40-65 miles away) lied also. We went to the 3rd largest(in sales) in USA dealership in Ohio, Hatfield(#1 in midwest in sales for 5 years).
I do not trust(100%) some of the on line dealerships, i use them for "fishing' expeditions, for prices,etc...
I also call themn and say ya lie to me, I will walk out and tell eveyone on way out the door to leave,too.
Believe me, we have done this before, and gotten calls back apologizing,but it was too late.This sounds odd, but I buy from Hatield, and then get the tune ups 65 miles away.
No problems..the sales staff doesn't like it, oh well.
I think we are lucky...past 3 years, 3 Hyundai dealerships have popped upin a 120 miles radius, notto mention another 6 or 7 older ones, or about 10-11 within 2 hr drive from where i live.(2 within an hour, another one within 75 minutes).If they make the plant in ohio to make Hyundai's, plus sales booming, may be a few more closer? I live in small "GM" farmer-type towns....ya get closer to cincinnati, columbus, dayton ohio(cities)the more Hyundai's/Kias ya see, not alot of daewoos,though.
PS, when I said we are lucky where we live, anywhere else in Ohio has scattered Hyundai stores, cleveland has maybe 2 in 2 hour drive, Toledo maybe one (northern and Eastern Ohio)
and Indiana has maybe (that I know of) 20 stores outside of Indianaplois. Only one in Lake county, Indiana..(called "south Chicago, bed and breakfast are.....10 miles from Chicago_) and one Kia!!
For Daewoo, ya gotta go 15-20 miles into Illinois, near Crete? Ill.
In richmond indiana( place off I-70, west-east route through most of midwest to ca?)they have almost everything from mitsu, big 3 japanese cars, mazda, big 3 usa cars, BMW, but NO Korean cars.....If they had them, they could sell them....but people run 50 miles to Dayton for Hyudnai/Kia.
SO, we are kind of lucky. We live near the biggest midwest cluster of Hyundai dealerships.
2) A couple of years ago I was shopping for a new car. I was interested in a Sonata with ABS/traction. I had problems with each of the 5 Hyundai dealers I visited in NJ. Seemed like none of them wanted my money. So as a wise consumer I went elsewhere.
I worked as a carsalesman for a short time period. We were told to do everything we can to get customers into the showroom. One family wanted a specific car that was in short supply. We had agreed to all the details over the phone but they wanted to see the car prior to putting down a deposit. Thye live 1.5 hours away from the dealership. I told the sales manager that I had an appointmnet with this family. He told me that I had to keep the appointment but that I couldn't sell them the car because they wanted to sell it to someone local and get repeat business. My phone was monitored so I could not call and cancel the appointment. (As it turned out, the car sat for 6 weeks without a sale and the dealer paid interest on it during that time -- it was a $45,000 vehicle--- sweet revenge) There are many stories like this. That as bad as the buying experience may be, the working culture is a lot worse.
Other thing is to check out a dealer's inventory over the internet. Most dealers have decent internet sites that will give you a picture of their inventory. Usually stock number, color, options, etc. If you don't see a car in this inventory listing with the option(s) you want, they they are likely jerking you around just to bring you in for a hard sell on another car.
I would have bought a Sonata long before I bought the Accord if I could have found one with ABS. And its not like I live in the middle of nowhere. I live in Los Angeles. But considering the great price I got, I think it worked out well for me.
How is $18600 out the door for a 2002 GLS V6, with sunroof and ABS?
thanks
Is there a way to "fix" this problem with some type of noise dampner?
Do owners of new cars other than Sonata also have the same problem? If they do, I won't care too much about it.
Comments appreciated?
I think the brake hardware was carried through from 2001 to 2002, but I can say with 100% assurance.
Re: Accord pricing. Honda wants to maintain that #1 slot in overall car sales. (The Camry may threaten them but definitely not the Altima. Nice re-design but the Nissan network isn't as extensive as the Honda and too pricey for the V6) they won 2001. They will keep their prices competitive for 2002 since they are re-designing for 2003 and because the Altima And Camry are re-done for this year. The civic and Accord are their bread and butter vehicles esp. since they don't have a pickup yet to make the really big profits like the big 3. Of course, they are selling all the minivans they can make as well as the CRV.
The Sonata is getitng a bigger piece every year. It won't ever sell like the Accord but it may be able to outsell some of the other models which will be a big feather in Hyundai hat.
Hope to hear from you before Feb 22 via the Talk to the Press discussion or at jfallon@edmunds.com with your thoughts and contact information.
Thanks as always,
Jeannine Fallon
PR Director, Edmunds.com
1. I commute 40 mi/ea. way - mainly highway. Gas mileage is averaging 22mpg. Speed is usually between 65-70mph. Is this another spark plug issue???...or what are these stories I'm being told about a car having to be 'broken in' to get a true mileage? Last night's fill up gave me 23.8 mpg??
2. When car has been driven for a while (warm) engine makes a repeated ticking/whooshing noise that might come from main belt on left side of engine?? (Help guys - talking to a female here!)
3. Washed the car today & noticed a heavy black build up under/along entire passenger side. Lots of paving going on around town but wouldn't the driver's side be coated too???
Think I might put my worries to rest w/a visit to the service guys @ Maita Hyundia. Any comments appreciated.
2. the whoosing sound is maybe the electric fans? in conjunction with the a/c? Ticking? could be lots of things. Does it go away or tick faster when the engine is rev'ed a little (2k rpms?) The dealer could tell you exactly what it is.
3. If you open the hood is the same black build-up in there too? If it is, then call the dealer. My guess is that it isn't, you'd notice a smell and your driveway would be spotted/puddled. Most likely it's something from the road.
Call the dealer anyways, If they are anything like the dealership that I bought mine from, they will take care of you.
Let us know.
As far as comparing a Honda 4 to a Hyundai V 6, no contest as far as gas mileage is concerned. The Honda 4 will do better all day long. Hondas are noted for fuel efficent engines.
As for the engine noise - it gets more noticable once the engine has warmed. (I'm a 2nd time Hyundia buyer - know the service guys pretty well & feel comfortable stopping by! - I'll do that this week)
As for the black stuff - odd, popped the hood - engine appears to be clean as a whistle, crawled underneath & didn't notice anything out of the ordinary and NO, there are no spots on the ground. But....right now it is BEAUTIFUL outside and I think I need to take her for a ride with the sunroof open! We DO like this car!!
(I know it is in Korea, but this is a rework).
Go to hyundaiusa.com, and they may still have a clip from the autoshow. They opened the car with a thing the size of a credit card, and should start it,too.
Hyundai claims they had no intention of making them for here, but, thecarconnection.com and autoweek claim otherwise.
Hyundai said "quiet period" for the next 18 months, meaning no new vehicles for USA(except the Tiburon and overseas, a "world class car",small like old Accent).
After that, Hyudnaiis supposed to have new "niche" vehicles out, whatever that means.
I had read they want to bring the "TB" mini-car here next summer,and maybe another suv or a truck soon(after plant is up and running in USA).
Also heard that nextg redo of Sonata may have a 2 door(ala-Solara) version and tighter suspension.
That'd be nice.
Whew! Equus shouyld be here before the end of next year.
Originally, it was supposed to have been released here in USA last December as the centennial!!! No joke.
What happened? Who knows?
Guess they just want to wait until they make cars here, and do the "redo" for USA only?
Thanks in advance!
look for 400,000 units sales this year, at least, in usa for Hyundai.
Like I said, hope they do not pass 500,000...this way, they'll be "forced" to keep up quality and prices not so high.
What's going on, everyone? Is the car that boring/dependable/uninteresting?
Here's an oldie but a goodie. The 1999-2001 Sonata has an Altezzi (sp.) style taillight available (I think from HDK) but there's no picture of it on the Web. Has anyone purchased it or seen it? How does it look? One of the few envies I have of the 2002 is that it has a much nicer taillight. Anyone got a picture?
Ian..
I've test driven the 2002 auto GLS V6. I didn't notice the 2-3 transmission slippage (I drove it when it was snowing and even the engine was cold in my opinion). Is it a fairly noticeable problem?
Now on to the reprogram, I am happy to note that all of the shifts are far more solid then they were when I got the car new. I was told that it may take some time for the computer to adjust to my driving style, although I kinda got the feeling that this was an excuse for something. The car still seems to drop into second gear from first a bit to early for my taste, but the shift is solid and that increases my confidence in the car. I have to state that I am a very agressive driver and the car is not really suited to my driving (YET). I have made some improvements to performance, but the suspension needs some stiffening yet. However that is not on topic. Anyhow, I think the reprogram is a good idea for anyone who has not done it. It should increase the life of the tranny by preventing the extra slippage the car came with originally.
My 2 cents (4 cents canadian!)
Ian...
A new car will have incredibly tight wear points and seals (piston rings, etc).
As these parts wear ever so slightly (because they are lubricated and are not supposed to wear a lot!) the engine starts running much more smoothly (less friction and resistance) which, in turn, leads to better gas mileage.
We have two 2000 Sonatas we bought new. I was, when my car was delivered, averaging 18 mpg. Best I did was perhaps 24 highway. That's it.
On a recent trip (to bloody Kansas), two years after I bought the car, I averaged 32 mpg.
QED.
Sonatabean
How on Earth does one (1) locate and (2) open the motor housing for the fan supplying interior air on the 2000 series Sonata? I have no doubt detritus is in my ducts because I can hear the fan blades striking whatever the hell's in there. Given an earlier post, I'm assuming I have twigs / leaves like everyone else.
I'll be the first to admit I've not worked on a car since carburation. In fact, the last car I worked on was a 1976 Buick my Mother handed down to me in 1984, when I learned how to drive.
So - safely assume (1) I'm utterly clueless but very motivated and (2) I have tools. What am I looking for and where do I find it?
Sontabean
The reason I bought it on the spot was because the person claimed that the extension could only be added on during the time off payment.
I've only bought one of these in my life, an 86 Tempo. That car was such a dog it actually paid off.