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  • thor8thor8 Posts: 303
    I have an ML 430 and we are looking for a big sedan for the wife, we decided is going to be an S500 or BMW 740il or an Audi A8, all of a sudden the audis look very appealing to us, just by looking at it the car exudes quality and a beautifull interior, my guess is that a lexus has nothing over it and we like the handling of a german car anyway, what can I expect?

    Thanks in advance for a good assesment.
  • I have a 2000 A8 with 20,000 miles. Did minor adjustments at 5,000 miles and have had not mechanical problems since. The car is very fast and handles extremely well, especially if you put performance tires on. When going 110, it feels like 60. Fit and finish on my car were flawless. I purchased it for the long drives out west, including heavy snow weather. The only complaint, which reviews have borne out, is rear seat leg room. For more details see my post back in late 1999. I'll be getting another one when the new model comes out in a couple of years.
  • mbnut1mbnut1 Posts: 403
    Interesting to see your interest in the A8. I own an Audi A4 currently. Unlike our other favorite marque I think that the engineers (rather than the bean counters) are still running the show at Audi and the A8 is the best example of this. Close the doors on the A8 and then do the same on the new C.

    The A8 is a special car. Alas if it only came with the right badging.
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    It is indeed sad what is happening to Mercedes. The new C isn't quite up to what I thought it would be overall.

    M
  • My wife and I own a 2000 A8L. Having put about 8K miles on, I am looking to improve the compliance on the suspension. The suspension is stock with the Continental tires that came with the car, 17" factory rims. I have installed Bilsteins on a number prior vehicles and found significant improvements. Anybody have experience in this area?
  • I've got a 2001 A8 but not real thrilled about the current model phone that is available.
    Anyone know if/when there will be a digital phone available that will plug into the current
    system? Or any suggestions on other options.

    Steve
  • I purchased a 2000 A8 from a friend loaded with every option including the phone. He got a 2001 S500 sport (and hates that he sold me his A8). I love his Star Tac phone feature(and Nav system which is also in my wife's ML430) and have checked with everyone about upgrading or changing the phone. According to my Audi dealer (Champion Motors) the 2002/3 will have a digital phone system. We are stuck with the analog (I can't even get my phone company to put the same number that's on my portable on the car phone so that I can utilize the hands free features).

    Other than the phone, this is by far the best luxury/performance sedan on the market. I came from an A6 2.8 and love the speed and quiteness of the A8. I chose this one over ordering an A8L because of the short wheelbase and the handeling. Gearing in this car is great!

    Perhaps the best and worst feature is that no one knows what it is, but it's fun blowing away 5.0 Mustangs at 70-100mph sprints! Most of them catch back up after I slow down and want to know what I've done to this sedan (nothing other than remove that badges from the trunk). Speaking of which, does anyone know where to get a performance air filter for the 40v 4.2 engine? I have tried and tried, but no luck. Thanks, Randy
  • portedported Posts: 16
    My A6 does the same thing ('99 A6Q auto.) Wonder if quattro causes this sensation, or the need to upshift quickly? The manual mode is not an issue.
  • pjn2pjn2 Posts: 2
    I have a '97 A8 w a BOSE/Blaupunct factory radio. I have had (and have) other Audi's w same radio and it's been fine w them but in this car the reception is terrible, esp, AM. FM is decent but AM is almost nonexistent. Dealer says it's common w this year and there's little that can be done. I can't believe that. When I turn engine off AM improves dramaticly, so is it a supression problem?
    Also on Tranny: I notice that during the shift between 4-5, engine races a little, tranny seems to slip a bit. It's noticable both from a "feel" standpoint, and the tach verifies a pretty good slip is happening. Anybody have any ideas on this stuff?
    Thanks......
  • All you need is to get chipped. Check out APR's web site and browse around at www.audiworld.com. If you chip your transmission and ECU, you'll be much happier with your car.

    I have the same issue with my 2001 A6 4.2. In park, it idles at an insane 500 rpm. In drive, it bobs down to 400 rpm. When the engine is cold, the idle is a bit rough.

    For fun, try turning the steering wheel somewhat quickly when it's doing this roughness. The program on my car sees the rpm's dropping quickly, rev's up to 1000 and when I go back to normal, it idles about 50-75 rpm higher for the rest of the day. I think it determines that it's NOT going to let the engine stall.

    As for the transmission being an instant slow, this is common when the accelerator is fly-by-wire. The computer is making sure you mean it for an instant. Again, chipping will fix that real quick!
  • zierzier Posts: 9
    I just recently purchased a 2001 A6 4.2 quattro, and the engine in my car does not vibrate at idle. In fact, it is so quiet, I sometimes check to make sure it is running. I wonder if there really is a problem with some of the engines since I do not experience the same problems some of you have, or if its based on the temperature of the climate you live in. I am in Indianapolis.
  • (OOPS) Previous message lost with a key stroke before posting!

    The '01 A6 4.2 utilizes the engine found in '99 or older A8's. In 2000 the A8 recieved a minor facelift, revamped suspension (more liberal use of aluminum components), and a new 5v 4.2 litre engine which makes some comparisons difficult unless the A8 is a '99 or '98.
  • langlotzlanglotz Posts: 1
    I am happy having chipped (Dinan) my 92 325i, and am considering a 97 A8. Who are the sources for chips? I found Total Audi Performance. Audi Performance & Racing had nothing for the A8 on their site.

    Any suggestions? (Looking at a '97 Quattro with 33k miles for about $35-36k.)
  • I'm curious to know (as the Benz is my first AWD vehicle) how your AWD systems work on all of your AWD 4.2's. I noticed one thing that is annoying in the E320: Around 15 to 20 mph, and occassionally at higher speeds, when I let off the gas completely and then tap back on it, I feel and slightly hear a "clutch catch," as I've affectionately termed it -- it is this catching sensation and this slight "thud" I hear. When I questioned the Benz serviceman, he said this is a known condition, allbeit normal, in the 4-matic series.

    Q: How smooth and how noticeable is your AWD system in a) dry weather, b) wet weather/snowy weather, c) aggressive, sporty driving and in accererations while cornering.

    I know this isn't a 4-matic forum, but I do appreciate all who respond!! Thanks

    Pete
  • moimememoimeme Posts: 28
    There is a certain glitch-factor if you release and very quickly go back on the accelerator. Doesn't happen often, but it's normal, even for 2WD vehicles. There's a lot of moving parts that float and re-engage when you do that. It's not such that I would notice unless I'm paying close attention, though.

    I almost never notice my 4WD, until I get into my FWD Mazda 626 and try to take the same turn at the same speed, particularly in the rain. That's when I realize how much I love quattro. The A6 4.2 is so "point-and-shoot" that you begin to depend on it. It never growls or complains...it just goes where you tell it to. Get into another car and you can scare yourself at how out-of-control it feels. The A6 goes right down the center of the lane in a hard turn, other cars do well, but you're at the outside of the lane with the rear slightly out of line. It could only get better with 4-wheel steering.

    I didn't notice this until I drove my A6 for 8-9 days without swapping cars. I was a skeptic, now I know I'll never buy another car without quattro, unless I can't afford it.
  • Thanks for the feedback,

    That reassures me, and validates what my dealer told me about the 4-matic operation and design. I knew I would appreciate the AWD after going from a '96 C280 to the '99 E320. The C280 came base -- no ASR or ESP, and it was a nightmare in winter weather. Now, I love to punch it past rear-drive germans and japanese in the snow w/ the 4-matic.
  • bertram60bertram60 Posts: 113
    Try going to audiworld.com and click on links. Early model A8 performance parts are not too hard to find, but late model (2000 or newer) are impossible to get! Good luck.
  • bertram60bertram60 Posts: 113
    this site is so quiet.
  • mariobgoodemariobgoode Posts: 114
    To Bertram60, it is quiet. Could it be because the car costs $65,000+ to buy, and if you are one of those who can afford it, you will probably be somewhere else trying to make more money to pay for the car and/or enjoying life's sweet rewards? There aren't too many rich people who would like to spend their leisure time on a computer. Maybe they're out there on the road, having fun with the car. What ever it is, enjoy the car. Regards from NYC. Mario
  • bertram60bertram60 Posts: 113
    Well, I do a little of both, work hard, play hard. Also, having spent the money, I'm always looking for ways to improve what I have, and was hoping to get some insight from this Town Hall. I guess that most A8 owners just drive thier cars and don't really enjoy them for the great performers they are.
  • mariobgoodemariobgoode Posts: 114
    You're so lucky to drive one. Congratulations on your financial security and success. Me, I'm waiting for the next model, reportedly coming out in March 2003. By that time, the luxury tax would be phased out, and hopefully, it wouldn't cost that much. My family loved the current A8L model, but we can wait. If we'll need another one in the meantime, I'll just lease the new A4 or get the latest A6. I myself also work hard and would like to enjoy the fruits of my labor. So, here's to a great car. Drive safely. Mario
    BTW, if you want a busy BBS, try the A6 forum. Bye. M
  • bertram60bertram60 Posts: 113
    I've been on the A6 BBS, and yes there's a lot going on (i also own a '98 A6).

    If I were you and wanted to do something short term, I'd probably do either the S4 or A6 2.7. My 2.8 was very, very, very slow, beautiful, but slow.

    I too am waiting for '03 and the new S8. I bought my A8 from a friend and saved on the lux tax, not quite like buying brand new, but at 12 months old the car was hardly abused. I can't wait for some real info (supposedly a 12cyl model RS8 will be availble too). I love the L, but the short wheelbase handles like a sports car and is bigger than my A6 (although the trunk is actually smaller than the 6.

    Whatever you do, enjoy and share your experiences with others.

    Ciao, Randy
  • gwill1gwill1 Posts: 1
    Given the option of an older (say '97, 50K) A8 4.2 Quattro and a newer (99/2000, 20-30K) A6 2.x Quattro, what would be the best choice?
  • bertram60bertram60 Posts: 113
    Owning both an '98 A6 2.8 and '00 A8 4.2(different engine than in '97) here's my 2cents.

    The A8's ride and handling and acceleration are tremendous. The A6 2.8 is a lot slower, feels as though it's heavier and doesn't have the crispness of the A8. The A8 gives you more interior volume, but a smaller trunk. The A6's styling is more up-to-date, but some people don't like the rear end. The A6 should still have some original service (either 3/36 for '99 or 4/50 for '00) and could probably be a certified-pre-owned car if you are willing to pay for it.

    I would call your local Audi dealer to see if they will certify a car for you (the dealers are wonderfully cooperative) and if the cars are local, see what history they can pull up on them (you will need VIN numbers) also check with a source like carfax.com to see if there have been any major problems with the car (again you'll need VIN numbers). Then, drive them both on the same day of possible. My choice would probably be to get the A6 due to warranty issues and the chance of extended factory warraties being available. I fear that the A8 could be pretty costly to maintain, and if there are problems, the're going to be expensive.

    Good luck and let us know you final decision.
    Randy
  • speter1speter1 Posts: 1
    I am considering the purchase of a 1996 A8 2.8. They seem a good buy in UK, around $16k - $20k for 50,000 milers compared to A6 and BMW.

    I am a bit concerned about the potential running costs though, tyres, electrical and mechanical problems, etc.

    Does anybody have any guidence for me.

    Thanks

    peter
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
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  • patpat Posts: 10,421
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  • I am driving an A6 quattro 2.8 and my lease is going to be terminated by September 2001. I did not have any problems with the car, but I am seriously considering an A8 L. Does anyone have any input on what kind of discount I should expect? I have been following manufacturer rebates but I don't see any thing happening. When I purchased my A6 a factory rebate was in place and I took full advantage of it. Back then, Audi was offering heavy discounts on A8s as well in the order of 8 to 10 Ks. I am waiting patiently but I see nothing happening and it would be very nice to hear from someone with recent experience concerning dealer discounts. If it comes down to no rebate at all, I will review my options and perhaps pursue something else. I think I am spoiled with this factory rebate thing. It is so good that I believe everybody else sould be too!Especially with the way the economy is right now.
  • mariobgoodemariobgoode Posts: 114
    To Bertram60: I just got my copy of Automobile magazine for June, and it has a picture of your new A8, with a few more details. I hope you can wait two more years. As I am considering the new A6, I am personally grateful for your input in the A6 BBS. I am putting in my order for the A6 in July, and move up to the A8L after 3 years, when all the bugs had been worked out. Enjoy. Mario
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