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Honda Civic vs. Hyundai Elantra

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  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,355
    I have yet to cut and paste ANYTHING is these forums.

    And, I don't think my comment was directed to you anyway!
  • pks1pks1 Posts: 32
    When buying our car we tested the civic lx and the elantra . The civic with a 1.6L 106hp was a very good car. It handeled well , accelerated very well (for its class) and it was a good buy for the price . The huyndai had the same features as the civic but it had a 2.0L 123? hp ( I cant recall the hp but its in the 120-130) . If you ever driven a elantra I think you noticed the NOICE IT MAKES WHEN CHANGING GEARS (manual). It makes a noice like there is no grease someware in the gerbox . And the car also felt heavy and to little hp for the car . Lets face it a Honda can make outstanding car , why do people drive their civics accords from the 88-9x with over 120k and the cars run like new ? Also a honda can make a 1.6L 106 hp engine hyundai can make a 2.0L (120-130hp dont remember) But I guess if a civic was a 2.0L like the elantra it would be well over 170hp for the base model and if they made an Si 2.0L it would have about 190hp . When was the last time you saw a hyundai have a 1.6L engine with such good hp?
    Oh I am also plannig on buyina a 1991 Honda CRX then we can compare it to a Sonata. Also the reason Hyundai has a long warranty and cheap prices is because they know people don't like hyundais and they are trying to attract costumers because it hyundai would sell the elantra in the price of a civic many people would buy the civic because for the same price they would get a car that has a history of good costumer feedback.
    happy driving
  • This is my second Sonata, the latest being a 1999 V6. I love it. My first Sonata was a 1993 with a 4 cylinder and it was fine, i just wanted a newer car. My daughter just bought her first car, an Elantra. I must admit, i was reluctant. I wanted to buy a Civic because of its reliable reputation but she test drove one and didn't like it as much as the Elantra. I hope it serves her well. As for Hyundai's problems with consumer confidence, Honda was in the same boat when they first entered the American market. They were awful. Maybe Hyundai will eventually have the same consumer loyalty someday as the Honda has now.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,355
    Does a longer warranty mean it's a better car?

    Isn't the best warranty the one that you don't have to use?

    Just curious...
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,355
    Or, wasn't it Genes555 awhile back?

    Get real. The ONLY reason Hyundai went to the longer warranty was to try to establish some consumer confidence in a company that had a reputation for building lackluster cars with poor reliability stats.

    They HAD to do something! VW did the same thing for the same reason.

    And, you PAY for that longer warranty in the price of the car, my friend.

    It's marketing, pure and simple, and I think it was very smart of them to do this.

    And, some people will probably buy a car on the basis of a longer warranty.

    Again, the BEST warranty is the one that you don't have to use!
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,355
    Before I get jumped on...It's quite possible that Hyundai has greatly improved. Time will tell.

    They have a LOT to overcome and I do applaud them for surviving when the last rites had already been said.

    Let's just not confuse warranty with quality.
  • is not knowing what lies ahead for the number of times we have to use the warranty. When I bought the '93 Sonata, it only had a 3 yr. warranty. With my '99, I have the 5 yr. Yes, warranty does not mean quality, but I'd rather not be paying for expensive Honda parts and the increased insurance Hondas require in Massachusetts. Accords are one of the most stolen cars, thus raising insurance rates higher than others. In general, Japanese cars are more expensive to insure. Rates are high enough.
  • elantra00elantra00 Posts: 225
    for some reason, my msg never got posted. i d take an elantra over a civic anyday. I am not your typically moron that buys a car just for its name. I compared the civic to the elantra and the elantra was much nicer. For about 2,000 less, you can get an elantra with power everything, (not to mention thats standard equipment), rims, CD player, more horsepower (except for SI, which is double the price of elantra), cruise control, and best of all, a 10 year/100,000 mile warranty. I got all this for $11,000! Lets see what the civic has: power nothing, hubcaps, no a/c. less horsepower, and a 3 yr warranty....no where near elantras features hell, you can buy 3 civics, sell them at 3 yrs when the warranty is up, and that one elantra will still be covered. People buy the civic just for the "H" emblem on the hood. The only civic that can compete with the elantra is the EX, which is 6 grand more, and still has 13 less hp and hubcaps. So its obvious the elantra is a much better deal.

    Yes, hyundai was bad when the first came out, but they have changed for the better, just like human beings can change. And last but not least, to prove my point fully, just see what edmunds.com thought of the elantra. top 10 economy cars. The elantra recieved 3rd place, 1/2% shy of second against the focus. The civic got 9th place. There is the proof that the elantra is a better deal. Question reliability?....10 yr warranty to back it up. I dont have anything against honda, they have nice cars, especially the accord and S2000, just the civic is too damn expensive, and they are that way because people buy them by name.
  • elantra00elantra00 Posts: 225
    i meant 1/2 point, not percent. this is based on points the car recieved in tests
  • quit re-hashing the same posts that you posted, re-posted, and then posted again...if you don't like hyundai...fine...if you do...fine. diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks!!! whatchu talkin' 'bout willis!?! i highly doubt that the 10 year/100,000 mile warranty is a JUST a marketing gimmick...and i think that you are a little naive and narrow-minded when you say this. why would a company, who knows they manufacture/sell crap, back it up with such an extensive warranty??? do you know how many millions of dollars this would cost them? they would lose more money than they would make!!! or maybe, just maybe...they believe that they have created a quality product, and aren't afraid to back it up??? you always seem so cynical towards anybody's views that differ from yours...i have just one question for you...were you the kid that was always picked on in school, and is now getting back at the world by lashing out, making other people feel inferior, just so, for once in your life, you can feel superior?
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,355
    I simply responded to elantra's post. there are two sides to every story and, since he/she slammed Honda, I felt a rebuttal was in order.

    And, actually, as a kid in school, I was usually the one that helped protect the weaker ones that the bullies picked on.

    and, I agree...Different strokes. Let's just get the facts straight!
  • or are you guys just having a (private) argument (conversation)between you?
  • bri70bri70 Posts: 147
    Did you read Edmunds comparison of nine economy cars? The Elantra was third. Where did the Civic placed?

    Ahem...

    2nd to last. And notice how much the Civic LX cost compared to the Elantra.
  • nikecarnikecar Posts: 460
    Oh give me a break. And they rated the Protege 4th. Rather have a protege than the Elantra.

    And the Car and Driver test gave the Hyundai 6th place and the Civic 4th. And I'm sure Consumer Reports, Automobile, etc each will swap around the places themselves.

    As the C&D report on the hyundai says...It's a great deal if you think it is.
  • elantra00elantra00 Posts: 225
    first of all, you sell hondas, so id expect you to side with honda. Secondly, admit it that people buy the car just for the name. To get a decently loaded civic, with power packages, your looking to spend $17,000. I got my car, with the same features as the ex, (except i have rims as well, but no roof) for $10,800. The facts are that the elantra is a far better deal then the civic. more power, (13 hp), rims, and 10 yr warranty for about $6,200 less. Those are the facts. and reliability....i have 2000 miles so far, broke in beautifully. no problems yet. my friend has 8000 trouble free miles. so, the poor past of hyundai may be gone. this is a great car. you cant argue you this
  • drimpledrimple Posts: 47
    C'mon guys, there is no need to bash the Civic. And before you come after me, you should know that I bought a 2000 Hyundai Sonata GLS three months ago.

    Yes, Hyundai is less expensive than other car manufacturers, but the reason that other manufacturers cost more is because they have a reputation that allows them to have higher prices. Hyundai has not earned that reputation yet, so low prices are one of the ways they are getting people to buy their cars. Same with the warranty. Honda and Toyota did the same thing when they came into the U.S. car industry many years ago.

    I have to be honest, even though I prefered the interior of the Sonata, I would have bought a Camry LE V6 instead if I had the money to do it. Why? Because I know the reliable reputation of the Camry and everyone I know that has a Camry hasn't had any problems with it.

    I am pretty sure that Hyundai will slowly raise their prices as their sales figures rise and they build a name for themselves.

    As to the Edmunds comparison, I wouldn't put much faith in it, as the major reason the Elantra was 3rd instead of 5th is the fact that they put a big emphasis on value. The Car and Driver test is much closer to the mark in my opinion.

    Don't get me wrong, I love my Sonata and I am very happy with my purchasing decision, but I also realize that if I had more money, I would have probably bought something else. I think this view is what a lot of people share, and people are willing to pay more for a reliable product. Hyundai hasn't earned the reliable "title" yet, but they may sometime in the near future.
  • bri70bri70 Posts: 147
    Regarding Car and Drivers "It's a
    great deal if you think it is." What a stupid statement. That goes for any car. They still have a prejudice against the make that they just can't let go. They did not like the interior plastics moldings (give me a break) or the engine noise (understandable). Even so, C&D lauded the Elantra's performance. One thing I don't get- in the article C&D mentioned more than once how many features the Elantra has. Yet in the features and amenities column it was given a 6 out of ten.

    Yes, value was a consideration in the Edmunds comparison. In fact it would have placed 2nd if the spoiler was taken off. Still Edmunds noted the Elantra's strong performance (for an eco car)

    Edmunds:

    "Thankfully, price isn't the only thing this Hyundai has going for it. All the key ingredients are here: performance, feature content, ergonomics, a top-notch warranty...with some minor improvements this could be the best economy sedan in America. As it stands, it's just a damn good one."
  • nikecarnikecar Posts: 460
    the statement isn't stupid. If you think its a great car, then bravo for you. Edmunds test can't be considered a "statistically significant" comparison? BS you say? well take into account, some cars have Auto and some cars and manual in the test. there is no way you can accurately guage the performance of a manual to an auto and report on which is better. If you tested all with manual, then all with auto, then yes. but not some yes some no. Also, the options on these cars were inconsistent. for example. The Elantra and the Protege both list that ABS were options, yet in the reviews, they mention performance with the ABS on the Protege, but wish they had ABS with the Elantra. You'd think for such a cheap car, they could have gotten an elantra with ABS. Again, this goes back that they are handicapping cars to begin with. Get all cars as similar as you can, then do a comparison.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,355
    This forum is called Civic vs. Elantra. As such, the Elantra lovers should expect opposing viewpoints. I'm not the one who started this forum either.

    Elantra, I'm glad you like your Hyundai and I hope this passion continues. I'm also glad that you have a whopping 2000 tropuble free miles on it. Your friend has 8000 trouble free miles! Great, but hardly a long term test.

    I'm sorry, but I still have a bad taste in my mouth over the earlier offerings. have they improved? Probably. Time will tell.

    And, yes, I do believe that some people buy Honda because of the name. It's a well earned good name that is held in high esteem by many.

    They also buy Civics because they hold their value like few other cars. I know you don't want to talk about Hyundai resale values!

    There is much more to value than a low initial price!
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