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Also, I agree with the good college professor about this car NOT being a first for a teenager. My husband is an army Major and we have had to step down from the pas sat to the jetty just to get our payments in the 400.00 range..... Many thanks!
The Jetta does have a tight back seat. I personally have never sat back there, so I can't testify as to how tight that is. What I would suggest is a real-time test drive. All three of you pack up in the Blazer and head down the local VW dealer, grab a Jetta and have a go at it to see for real. Make the salesperson sit in the back, if they insist on going. My salesguy just gave us the keys and said, "Have fun," and we were outta there.
Let us know how it goes.
Ya'll should stop making fun of the 16 year old. I'm a 19 year old sophmore at University of Michigan. It just so happens that my parents are poor, so I have to pay for crap myself. It just so happens that I make more money than most people my age, because I have a part time programming job while in college. So what I had to pay for my own car. I would much rather have my parents pay for that car if they could. That way I wouldn't have to get a demo, and instead would have money to chip it, and put some better rubber on it (195/65 R15 = CRAP). Another thing, sure Jetta 1.8t is a great car, for the money that is. However, I would not go as far as calling it a dream car or anything of that sort. This is because of the simple reason that if I made more money I would have surely gotten a Passat or a Maxima. When you say "dream car" you must mean along the lines a Bimmer, a Jag or a Vette'. Most 16 year olds I know make $6 an hour doing the work that adults get $12 an hour for. They can not afford any type of car as far as I'm concerned. So if your parents are buying you a car it might as well be something safe and reliable. As far as used cars go, no used car is reliable.
okay, i'll get off my soapbox and admit to myself that my post has no point.
oh, and dream cars are just that when you're actually paying for your ride.
I do push the front passenger seat forward and install his car seat behind it so his shoes don't get on the black leather. Oh yeah, black leather doesn't seem to age like the tan leather does on my friend's Passat.
Michigan, I make good money, and buy the cars I want/need. If I could afford a Merc or BMW, sure, but I can't. The Jetta happens to be a darn good substitute, and I'd buy it over the BMW 3-series any day. You convey frustration because you can't afford chips and aftermarket perfromance parts. Save your money pal. Do you have any investments? My 1.8T has plenty of oomph and handles well enough to throw it around. You may think $700 isn't a big deal? Let's say you continue programming - that's a lucrative field. Get out of school and make 70 to 80 large, great. But from there your responsibilities will grow faster than your salary when you acquire a mortgage, wife, kids, a second car, etc. So unless you plan to remain single forever, $700 for one car is pretty crazy for most of us hard-working Americans.
Blackjetta, I'm glad you've worked hard, but I still say the Jetta's not right for you...yet. If insurance is so steep in NJ, then start with somthing easier to insure, a Mazda, Toyota or something (Honda Accords are expensive because they're the most stolen cars). Also the 1.8T takes only premium gas, so that's another cost factor. If you're going to drive friends around in the backseat, they won't likely be too comfortable for more than a few hours.
With my long commute to work, depreciation due to my annual mileage contributes to my car purchase decision.
We had to buy two cars a couple of years ago ... when VW had 0% financing. We fully financed two Passats. The first time I ever purchased (except my house) on credit. Sure, we were sending VW Credit nearly $2,000 a month. But, it made economic sense to do it. It was a two-year loan at 0%.
That's all we're talking about. Even if an individual is of the means to spend $700 a month on a car, there are other things I'd rather do with the money.
But, like everything, it's a matter of personal preference.
Because I think blackjetta will buy a Jetta anyway, let me answer your question about ASR. It works very well. It essentially supresses understair. You must understand there are two circumstances where the understair occurs. One is caused by too much power input DURING a corner. This is actualy not a bad thing because, if it is not excessive, your car is still under control and you can control the turning radius using both the stairing wheel and gus peddle. However, ASR suppress this understair as soon as it detects it. It works so effectively that I almost hate it and I usually turn it off. On the other hand, it is a very good item to educate yourself. As soon as the indicator lump of ASR lights, you should realize that you pushed your car too much and you would have slipped out of the road if it were not for the ASR. You will also realize how easy to light up the indicater for a high-power FWD car like Jetta 1.8T. The second situation where you would have the understair is too much speed at the ENTRY of a curve. In this case, ASR can not do anything. At the point you have understair at the entry of a curve, your cornering is a total failure and you can not do anything but pray. Be careful and be a good driver!
One more thought,
one of the reasons there are a lot of stolen Accords is because there are a lot of them on the road. A lot of Camry's are stolen too. Again, there are a lot of Camry's on the road. A more telling statistic would be: what PERCENTAGE of a particular car make is stolen. I would think an Accord would be no higher than a Jetta or many other cars.
I would guess that the reason your VR6 and V6 Accord rates came out similar is that while the Accord carries a higher risk of theft, the Jetta has more expensive replacement parts - they came out about the same. When our first 2000 Jetta was in an accident, I thought it would be repaired. The adjuster said, "watch this," as he crunched the numbers. It quickly became a total. He told me VW has some of the most expensive sheet metal. Personally, I like that...
You get more space for the dollar. Probably the insurance is cheaper on the Jetta also. This may be your biggest factor in deciding between the two. I would find the invoice price of a car on the dealer's lot that you want(go on a Sunday), add destination cost, then $500 for profit. If you leave your phone number and stick to this price, odds are the dealer will take your offer, although he may wait a couple of days to call you back. be patient, and this will likely happen. (Except in the Detroit/Ann Arbor area where they think MSRP is the only price allowable.)
You may also want to get a few online quotes from www.carsdirect.com or www.stoneage.com then talk to the internet sales managers at the dealer. Ask how much ALL dealer and processing fees cost up front, and know what you can bargain away. Go through the car buying tips on this site and get your invoice prices here. Chances are, you'll get a better price than Edmunds TVM - most of us have.
And keep posting - we love to hear new buyers' experiences and it helps others considering Jettas. Oh yeah, I'd choose the Jetta too. The Beetle is cute as heck, but it's lack of usable space will wear on you. Also, get the sunroof!!
This is not in dispute. The point I was making is that this does not translate into higher than average insurance costs. A Porsche is much more likely to be stolen than an Accord. But since Porches sell in much less quantities, it will never make a top ten list in stolen cars. The percentage of its cars that are stolen is very high though. 2nd point: 99% plus claims that an insurance company pays out is the result of accidents.
The only "add-on's" we usually have is CD player or changer, but that is on probably only 25% of our inventory.
The only fees we charge are $99 Doc fee, registration and 5% sales tax (Mass.)
If you need any more info let me know.
if you MUST by one at that time. I just bought a new one fully loaded and paid a nice penny for it because I ordered it. You aren't going to get a killer deal on one of these because these cars are HOT. It's still a VW sellers market today....we'll all see how it's going a few months from now.
1. 2001 Jetta GLS TDI Black on black cloth w/ Luxury, cold weather& monsoon. Manual trans.
2. 2001 Jetta GLS TDI Galactic Blue. Auto trans.
3 more on the way!
What 1.8T's (auto.) do you have or will you be expecting?
Also, where abouts is your dealer located in the Boston area?
Thanks!
The moral of the story, the Jetta is a great car, but please don't make the same mistake I did. Weigh ALL the sacrifices you'll have to make before you take the plunge.
It is new years day. We just bought a 98 Jetta GT. We did not receive any manuals or codes.
"safe" mode.
We would like to use the radio today.
Is there anyway to make my radio work today? Is it necessary to wait and go to a VW Dealer?
Thanks
Tom
Please, Jetta owners only. This is a private, moderated list and is totally a for-fun, not-for-profit venture.
-Jim
The new '01 Protege just came out, and I like them alot. Probably going to be in the market either this summer or next summer. But I still have this craving for a Golf 1.8T. I just need to bite the damn bullet!
I cold-start the car in the morning, the engine idles so rough for about 5 minutes that one would think that the engine was going to explode. And then, after warmed up, it idles smoothly again.
Is this normal for the VR6 engine? If so, why?
Other than the starts though, it doesn't seem to cause any other problems and the engine runs fine, but I'd definitely inform my dealer of it.
While I was waiting for my car to be repaired in Regina 4 more TDi's came in on flat beds all with the same problem. The temperature that day was -37 degrees C. That's just about the same in degrees F.
I have owned the car since April 2000 and have had no problems or complaints until this episode. The odometer reads 38,000 kilometers. or 22,000 miles
I have installed a Hermann tuning box, K&N air filter and a Neuspeed short shift kit. The torque went from 155 ft/pds to 197 ft/pds with the tuning box. That's more torque than either the VR6 or the 1.8T ! Horse power sells but it's the torque that gives the thrill. I still average 56/57 mpg imperial and have had as high as 64 mpg. after the modifications. I have bought 17X8 in mags with fat Goodyear Eagles that I plan to install in the spring. I run with my stock 15 in. rims in the winter with winter tires. I plan to install vented disk brakes when the ones on it wear out and a VR6 clutch to handle the higher torque.