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Yeah, right.
Back to the REAL issues, I wonder how much the dealers are discounting their SEQs now in other regions. There has not been very many posts about purchase prices. Where I am, the prices seem to have actually stayed only very slightly below MSRP. It might be a longer wait for me.
We are approaching this with the Sequoia in the DC area. We have one SR5 in stock and it came in yesterday. We have 5 Limiteds coming in and three of them are sold already. We have been as low as $2000 off MSRP but now we are no more than $1000 off and we are looking hard at those offers.
Again, I can't speak for other regions or even other dealers in this region but here, demand is pushing things higher with no end in sight.
I do know of quite a few people personally who just have a love for driving large SUV's. As the vehicle cost goes up, gas goes up this should get people to think a little more about their actual needs but technology may also help us in the future.
With Gore out I hope the push to regulate SUV will become more moderate.
RE: two wiring systems.
This most likely is NOT the case. There more likely is a single wiring system that is used in a maxed out Limited, and the SR5 model has a few wires (out of thousands) not utilized.
cheers
BTW - offer on the table for SR5 4WD (MSRP 39,900 incl destination fee) is 36,534.95. Need to sell my trade-in though. Anyone interested in a 95 LC.
My Sequoia: Desert Sand Mica SR5 4WD - Convenience package, alloy wheel package, power captain chairs, moon roof, roof rack.
Your offer sounds like a good deal for you!
Thanks for sharing.
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13 mpg, while the trip computer was calculating over 15 mpg.
This was in 2wd mode.
And Cliffy1, regardless of the fuel type, this is a gas hog.
But, it does not explain the discripancy between manually calculated gas mileage
versus Trip Computer Calculated gas mileage.
I'll almost guarantee that the "Miles To Empty" calculation is also incorrect.
What I did on one vehicle in the past was to take a 5 gallon can of fuel with me and drive until the tank was dry (NOTE: don't do this on your new car - wait until you don't care for it anymore - running the tank dry is not good for the engine).
This particular test told me that I still had 14 miles to go before empty. Hmmm.
Most comments here are "right on" and correct about the vechile. One thing that has been discussed before here and is happening on my Seq. is 2-3 clicks after starting it and putting it in drive. Some have said this is an ABS or VSC self-check. Any comments for anyone?
"What I did on one vehicle in the past was to take a 5 gallon can of fuel with me and drive until the tank was dry"
I don't want to sound patronizing, but
I've read too many posts talking about convoluted methods to calculate a simple MPG. Therefore...
Simply keeping track of your gas usage and mileage over serveral (the more the better, 4 or more would probably encompass a mix of your driving routines) tankfulls will reduce the error due to variable pump shutoff to insignificance. Whatever you do, never attempt to nurse the gas in at the end to try to top the tank off. If you do you'll stand a chance of damaging the modern-day venting apparatus which will cost you $$$ and may not be covered by your warranty because everybody knows that it broke due to operator error and not reading warnings in owners manual.
Lastly if you calculate over multiple tanks it does not matter if you fill up the intermediate tanks or not. Just fill up the first and last tank, and keep track of your starting and ending mileage and the total gallons used after the initial fillup.
Thus:
1) fill up tank until pump shutoff (do NOT top it off)
2) do NOT count the gallons you just added
3) note your odometer reading
4) Do multiple gas ups and you do NOT
have to fill it up. Keep a running total of gallons added. Ignore odometer.
5) Do final fill up until pump shutoff
6) add the running total of gallons to your final gallonage in this last fillup
7) Read odometer and subtract initial odometer reading
8) Divide miles driven by gallons used
cheers
I am one of the 5% or so (manufacturers' studies show) that actually intends to use the vehicle off road. Therefore, I am interested in setting it up with that in mind. I wish that Toyota would offer the TRD Off Road Package on this vehicle. I think there would be more interest than they realize. The new Chevy Tahoe Z71 is coming out soon. I do want to check it out, but will probably lean more toward the Sequoia because of quality and reliability issues.
I am interested in an SR5 with most of the bells and whistles. I don't want running boards because they can be easily damaged off road. I notice you have to get them with certain packages. I will probably have to look aftermarket to get the vehicle more in line with what I want. A tubular step would probably be appreciated by my wife and would work acceptably off road.
Most of my off roading will be on dirt roads, however, I have gotten into serious four wheeling at times on bad roads. I am an experienced four wheeler with lots of off road miles logged. I still realize that most of the time you are on paved roads and a comfortable ride is extremely important as well. I am not into the rock crawling and winching over boulders that some of the more radical jeeps are set up for. Therefore, I don't intend to raise the vehicle or get too radical. Any thoughts from people that have done this sort of thing with the Sequoia would be appreciated. Thanks for your input.
Need a 4x4 SUV for actual off-road use. We live in the desert Southwest and will use primarily for dirt access roads but with some arroyo driving to reach remote areas (no rock crawling but difficult terrain). Currently hitching rides to area in a friends stock Chevy 4x4 truck (off-road LT tires & Blistein shocks being the only upgrades).
Curious to how Sequoia does in actual off-road use. The Tundra has a TRD package which stiffens up the ride for off-road use. I am assuming the Sequoia has a softer ride then the Tundra (similar to how the Expedition rides compared to the F-150) so wondering how it will hold-up off the beaten path.
Any owners taken their Sequoia's off-road (fire roads, beach areas, etc.)?
Any owners considering adding heavier duty shocks and LT truck tires to their Sequoia to stiffen ride?
Thanks.
The tires are the one thing I would change -- I would get light truck tires. Michelin LTX would be a good choice, but they do not seem to make a 265x70 tire. The do make an LT245/75R16E (same height, but a 3/4" narrower) in an E load range that would work. That would stiffen up the sidewalls (and the ride). For my purposes, an M/S tread is just fine, but they would work better at 15 psi.
I believe that the frame, shocks, and springs would be OK as is. I think they are a little more rugged than the Tundra parts (the frame has an extra cross member and the vehicle has skid plates in all the right places). I'm assuming the running boards are bolted on and removable, but I can't figure out where to put a winch.
I was told the Convience Package was not available when ordering, but not option PM. He is as surprised as me and stated the the distributor at the Houston Port won't allow this option. He said that leather seats would have to be a "port add" and that the premium sound and 6 CD would not be available. I know why the distributor and dealers "unbundle" these.... to make a profit on their own "port adds".
I wonder why Toyota allows them to continue this practice. I complained to Toyota directly and further stated that their web page does not show any restrictions by region. Has anyone else had this same experience? Any advice would be appreciated.
good luck. dj
I will consider other tires, however, I would prefer to go slightly wider. The LC uses a 275/70/16 and I believe it is about 1/2" wider. I would have to find out if there is clearance for the larger tires. I will probably stick to a combination mud and snow tire that is quiet and offers a good highway ride with acceptable off road performance. I am still deciding on whether to get the stock alloy wheels, which look good, or go to an after market set.
If the shocks are too soft, a stiffer gas shock might be better off road. I checked the running boards and it appears that they could just be unbolted. I would like to avoid buying them in the first place because I wouldn't want to bother taking them off and putting them back on.
I might consider some type of grill guard or brush guard to give more areas to mount additional lights. I like to have fog lights and some type of long range driving lights (off road use only). I don't anticipate much need for a winch, myself, with the type of stuff I plan to do.
I agree that the Sequoia should do well off road without any major modifications.
I also live in the south west and have done most of my four wheeling in California, Nevada, and Utah.
Thanks for the info.
I'm in the market for a Sequoia SR5.
Email me your price.noelnj@yahoo.com
I have been reading all the comments and suggestions and I've been learning a lot. Keep up the discusions..
thank you.
I wanted to verify the mileage as it has been several weeks since the vehicle has been on the lot. Well - it now has over 700 miles on it. The manager has been using it. I informed that this might be a deal stopper. Response was that this was why the deal was so good. My response was that I would have a brand new one for $37 vs. saving ~$460 for a vehicle with over 700 miles.
I have not yet decided yet. What is the concensus on how much the 700+ miles should affect the price. I'm thinking about a $/mile.
Its very obvious that I was talking about how I tested the useless TRIP COMPUTER - MILES TO EMPTY function after a year of not trusting what it was telling me.
I'm sure that 99.9% of the people here know how to manually calculate gas mileage.
Oh and yes, I do sell Toyotas at a very nice dealership in Northern Virginia. You're not really competition for me so join on in.
When I make samrt [non-permissible content removed] remarks there usually is no doubt. I'll apologize anyway.
BTW, I did misread your miles to dry because it was tagged at the end of your note while the beginning of your note lead off about MPG.
Lastly, over the last couple years I've read multiple overly-complicated methods of methods to try to get an accurate MPG. The best one was someone trying to rig up a gallon jug of gas into his fuel intake.
cheers
I have been researching the sequoia for the last month. I have been really bad in the past in negotiating on my vehicals. I am looking for some coaching on this one. I am not going alone.. IF anybody is knowledgeable in this art of buying cars. Please e-mail me at btvander@aol.com
The ultimate plan is to purchase a Sequoia $1,000 over invoice.........Hey, I'm I dreaming?????????
are you kidding ? 2100 under INVOICE ? with all of those options and the much sought-after silver sky color ? and you are asking if it is a good deal ?? somebody hold my head while i think .... uhmmm ....
i think... NOT...
do you want this car or you are simply window shopping ? if the latter, you are wasting your time (and ours by bothering us)...if the former, well .... !!!!
my .02 cents worth
good luck with your purchase and check out those "ticking sounds" when you test drive the vehicle. if there are more than 2 ticks right after the other, then something may be amiss with that particular vehicle...