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What a joke. Where do you get this stuff from??
HONDA RULES MAN!! INTRIGUES SUCK.
Post some more Honda propaganda PLEASE!!!
jgriff, if you've commentary that adds to the Intrigue discussion, you're most welcome to offer it. However, commentary on the Acura is more appropriate in the respective Acura discussions. Future (and possibly past) off-topic posts debating the merits of the Acura will be removed.
Everyone else, please get back to the topic. Man... See what happens when I let you guys talk about politics???
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You would think GM would jump all over this problem, but it appears to be unfixable.
I get the noise driving over speed bumps now. It is definitely getting worse.
It actually feels like the suspension is loose, as if something needs to be tightened. It is exclusively on the left side of the car.
b4z:::::::Finish painting???? The condo deal finally closed on 2/6; furniture is stored in some warehouse in southern Fla and wife is back in Mich.. I think the whole thing was a mistake and I realize that the furniture will not survive too well..
I certainly didn't sign any orders for an Aurora but I understand it was ordered, and I retain the right of first refusal!!!The car is coming out of a Mich dealer so it gets the 5/60 warranty..
I ask the dealer to quote me a price on an extended warranty for the Intrigue-5/75-Major Guard-0 ded. I was given a bid of $1025.. I had received info from GM by mail this week on the same warranty with $100 ded at a price of $1,220. I adore the bidding game!!! The 5/100 warranty w/0 ded gets a little pricey at $1780. Looks like the last 25k is a real fix-up time.
Since the Intrigue resale is not too swift I thought a little added sweetener might soften the blow.. Just tossing around ideas at this time.
Will find out Wednesday what size V-8 is going to be added to the GM SUV in lieu of the I-6. I forgot to ask my contact today; had other problems to face.
one2one::::::How are the Michelin tires for noise level and harshness?????
My Intrigue at speed is glass smooth; but on rough roads at lower speeds it sounds like the front end could fall off at any moment. The steering is tight, no play or slop in the wheel movement. I am about 235 miles away from ending the original warranty and for some reason concerned about the next 50k miles..
Had lunch yesterday with a retired Chrysler engr. whom I play alot of golf with during the summer and he was telling me that Chrysler is offering special deals to "Friends of Chrysler Employees"..He had the coupons at home and the pricing is at invoice less any rebate. Chance to get the 300M with the Euro suspension. The world is full of deals. With a little wheeling one should be able to get a loaded 300M for 25k+tax.
Enough car babble for one day--see what tomorrow will bring..Probably snow. Dindak----understand Toronto got 15" of snow on Thursday..
The service dept calls to tell me they damaged the rear bumper while driving the car into the shop (having an ice storm here, everything is like a skating rink). Of course they are all apologetic and will replace the bumper, only the facia was damaged.
This would have bothered me more if it wasn't for the fact that the car was rear-ended last month by an un-attentive teenager in a Camry. That also required the bumper to be replaced so the paint was barely dry on that new bumper. The car suffered no sheet metal or structural damage, but the Toyota bumper went under mine so his front end had considerably more damage.
Aside from the bumper thing, the car has been flawless, no noises or problems. By far the best car I've owned. My wife wants to dump her Taurus and for me to buy a new car and give her the Intrigue, but I want to hang on to it for several more years yet. Old makes the only GM products I have any interest in and with them gone I will probably be resigned to buying some Honda product that will run contrary to stereotype and be in the shop all the time.
On a diagnostic note, I mentioned a problem about 3 weeks ago involving feed back through the steering wheel of my 2000 Intrigue. Usually over rough pavement and at both slow and high speed, I notice a "loose" feeling that comes through the steering wheel. It's the strangest thing.
When I took the car in for its 12,000 mile service, I had the service guys check it out and they claimed they couldn't find anything (surprise). I'm monitoring things until it's due for the 15,000 mile service later this month or next.
Any ideas out there?
dwg
When i go over bigger bumps i am definitely hearing something moving around as if the suspension is not controlling the left front wheel assembly.
It manifests itself as a clunking sound. It might very well need another steering shaft. I know that teo on the impala board is having continuing problems with his.
Anyway, it is getting worse as the miles go on.
It is your basic 1970's or 80's trashy american car feel that happens when the miles pile up. But it is not the body structure that is turning trashy and loose it is the suspension components.
My intrigue idles almost imperciptably. I am not saying that the tahoe idles like a 4 cylinder accord, but a V8 should be much smoother than that.
The inline 6 has a much power as the 270 hp 4.8L V8. Granted it is high in the rev range (6000rpm).
The Trailblazer will offer a 3.42, 3.73 and 4.10 rearend. I would think the they would offer the low end torque that both you and i are looking for if we went with either the 3.73 or 4.10 gears.
The OHC 6 will be much smoother than the OHV V8. so that will be my choice. I just have to figure which gear i want. Gas mileage is important to me and i am sure those 4.10s are not an economy gear.
I called my dealer and they will not have any in
until March/April. the lowest price will be $25,000 the next trim level will be $29,000, a little steep for me.
I may consider the envoy since people who have seen it says it has the most attractive interior.
mkco : How are you liking the GTP compared with the Intrigue?
bz4 : I was driving my mom's Alero and the idle on that compared with my Intrigue was very noticeable. If getting one of the new GM SUVs, I would definitely go I-6. It looks to be a very good engine and should be very competitive.
FRONT END RATTLE CURE::::::::::Went back to the long term test by Edmunds on the 98 Intrigue which I had copied for my records. Recap Sept 1998; reprint from article: Strange rattles coming from the front>>>dealer had replaced rack and pinion steering assy, the intermediate shaft in the steering column and the front struts in an effort to quiet the noises emanting from the front end of his Intrigue. That didn't fix the problem. So the dealer continued the hunt for the noise and found that the plastic wheelwell liners were RATTLING AGAINST THE FRONT FENDERS. By applying some sound deadening material, the dealer successfully exiced odd noises from this Olds and the car is running "as quiet as a church mouse."
That story certainly has a happy ending, so lets fix the noise and "hug your Intrigue."
Mississippi state government is confiscating private land and making it available to Nissan Motors so they will build a $930-million plant in Canton, Miss.. The government is using the right of eminent domain proceedings to grab the final 27 acres to finally complete the states land grab of 1,500 acres for "dear Nissan Motors."
More Asians, more pain, and more layoffs for the Big 3...Doesn't it make you proud to be an American and watch our established manufacturing base go into the sewer... Now this is done with the help of our own government, and their greed for anyone's money. However they are using our tax money to lure these nice foreign companies.. Look out the window--you might see a NATO vehicle parked on your block..
Wish the stock market would finally shake its losing streak..
Are you front end noises fixed???
If they are, good for you!!!
The story was a rehash of the Edmunds article and not my personal experience. I had the intermediate shaft replaced on the 99 GLS and racks/shafts done on the 98GLS..Never had the struts replaced for I figured it was a waste of time and they would probably screw something else up in the fix.
My car is parked in the garage with the RH side exposed to the center or aisleway so in passing to enter the house I would occasionally bang the RH fender near the bumper facia and listen to the rattle.. Too lazy I guess to study further..
However the cold weather increases the front end clatter and the aging plastic panels seem to all have meshed together. Even though we have had a snowy wet winter; the car has only been exposed to limited wet useage so far..
The front bumper facia portion under the nose of the car is flappy and not secured well; but I don't think it is the problem.
If the mood strikes today I will explore further..
Does your Intrigue have the same quirks????
It is has the same chassis as the other Gm midsize cars, so i would expect it to have the same safety in a real world crash.
I am very tall and still have about two inches between my knee and the dashboard. So the dash could move back several inches and my knees still wouldn't be broken. This is more than i can say for the other cars i test drove.
Wear your seatbelt and put the seatback as far as you can and still drive comfortably.
dwg
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L8_Apex
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david161 : Odd problem. Make sure you get it fixed before the warranty is over. Take it to another dealer if need be.
I had the intermediate shaft in the steering column replaced (under warranty) and the problem
has been fixed!
It is also possible, but unlikely, that interference from some nearby transmitter is at fault, e.g. an Amateur Radio setup or someone else's remote coincidentally on the same code. Does it only occur in one location?
Jibes with what the Olds dealers told GM at the recent NADA convention in Vegas, that sales are way up with the new warr. and incentives, and why kill it? GM said its final, no way and will offer 3k to dealer per unit sold, grandfathered back to late 1999. If any one dealer sues GM, the brand mgr. threatened to cancle all incentives! (nice huh?).
Anyways, told the show Olds reps. about Zarrella (GM North America head) and how he told my brother recently how Harley Davison (sp?) bikes were a bad business model and not doing well (!). All the Olds reps laughed, and said Ron isn't too well respected. pretty funny.
Sad for Olds though. Did see the new Sterling Silver and did not like it, preferring the Silver Mist as it looks classier and less showey.
Different strokes for different folks :-)
I believe vcjumper also put Pilots on. He should have a few thousand miles on them now. Perhpas he may post his experiences.
I hate Silver Mist. Can't decide if it looks like a glass of Alka-Seltzer or a dead fish washed up on the beach.
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
I got my $1500/$1000 loyalty certificate. I like how they included spec sheets on all the '01 models and the '02 Bravada. The '02 Bravada looks pretty sweet, but I bet it will be expensive. With my GMO/GMS + $1500 certificate I might be able to get a pretty good deal on one...
Now if only I found a way to turn off the traction control permanently. My last car with ETC you could turn it off and it would stay off next time you started the car.
Saw a white '99 with the old style chrome wheels, it looked really good. Not a combination i have seen before.
The current Goodyears are at 36k and have developed a rumble at high speeds on smooth black top surfaces. Tires are wearing evenly and no evidence of cupping; in fact they are very well balanced. I think that there must be a slight cord overlap in one of the tires that creates the rumble.
Has anyone read the Edmunds article on the Aurora dtd 1/16/01. Was a fair writeup, however the interior didn't win awards and the 4.0 is a little on the sluggish side. When my Aurora gets in; I shall fax the negative portion of the report and cancel with regrets..
In an attempt to eliminate the horrible front rattle before signing up for the extended warranty; I have offered to rent the lift for one hr. with a mechanic and have the front tires removed so we can totally scan the front end..The warranty pricing for 75k miles $100 ded is $845 for GMs finest Major Guard. That should cover the abuse which I intend to dish out on the Intrigue and take care of any major failure along the way over the next year while I enjoy those high cruise moments.
I have had three posts removed by our esteemed overlords during the last few days. The diversity of the forum is gone so the only thing left is car babble!!!!
The key fob problem experienced by David161 is strange and last fall I had to have the 96 Cad reprogrammed due to the failure of one unit..I have noticed with the Intrigue that the trunk is open a high percentage of the time..Would appreciate a warning on the instrument panel to cover that condition. The trunk lid is not a work of art nor any engineering achievement; in fact it might be easy to pop and gain entry thru the fold down rear seat.
The old style Aurora was a silly looking tank with a cramped interior and I really didn't want another Northstar V-8 in the garage.. Two premium gas cars in my garage is not cost effective..
White and black covers the color range with the Lincoln ivory flavor next on my list.
The only silver car was a 57 Porsche 1600S with a red interior. My British Racing Green car with a Tan interior was 58 Porsche 1600S. Great fun, the carefree single days.. Took delivery in Germany while protecting the country..
Mon roe offers a Sensatrac strut and a Reflex strut. Apparently, the Sensatrac has soft calving.
I'm going to research these alternatives and also whether different springs would suffice.
I guess I'll be the guinea pig here but it won't be right away. I want to know exactly how my ride will be effected. I do know this: It can't get any worse than it already is.
It appears that the Reflex strut is new etch and the valves open and close in 12 and 15 milliseconds, respectively. Maybe this is why my car thrashes over small bumps (the valves take to long to open and close)??? I wish I could try a few different options.
Man, what's the matter with this thing. Spelling was correct before I sent it
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L8_Apex
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my popping jounce bumpers.