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Bringing my 2000 Intrigue in to have them look at the temperature gauge again. It was fixed a month ago, but has started moving around again for no reason. Engine temp is fine and car runs great. The dealer said they replaced the gauge. Motor Trend had the same problem and they had the thermostat replaced. I will ask for the same. Wacky stuff. Coming up on my 1 year anniversary with the car in next week.
one2one, I know what you mean about the passing power, I was not a big one to pass on two lane highways when we had our '93 Voyager with the 3.0 but this past week end I made a road trip to the UP of Michigan and after I got around the first slow-poke I was hooked!
white6, mine is a 98 so it has the 3800 V6. Next time I talk to the guy at work who recently bought the 2000, I'll ask him if he has noticed any flickering.
The '97 GM 'W' bodies (Grand-Prix, Regal, etc.) had serious wiper failures and a subsequent recall but that problem also didn't carry over to later model years.
Since wipers are probably shared among all GM 'W' bodies you might enquire in another 'W' body forum, especially the Grand-Prix, as there are a lot more of those on the road than Intrigue.
00-05-22-002 FEB 00 (Warranty) Brake Rotor Service Procedure
I thought it looked promising.
Anyone know another source of TSBs for 1999? I have emailed Oldsmobile, asking them about getting the TSBs.
Lindsey
Talked to my salesman yesterday. Said that they were getting a bravada in next week.
I asked him why they only had two intrigues on the lot when the incentives had been extended until October. He said, "because we are idiots."
He told me that the dealers that have the stock are doing great. He agreed that they need to order more.
I think that Olds had one of its best months ever in January.
Your front rotors are warpped pure and simple; there is no TSB for front rotors and I assume your dealer stated that story..
At 34429 miles dealer turned front and rear rotors--no charge!!! However; I am on my own now even though car is covered by an extended warranty. Its a 99 GLS w/3.5--loaded up with goodies. I also had a 98 GLS w/3.8--loaded up with goodies and rear rotors were replaced at 3,000 miles. GM purchased the car back at 26k miles..
Update on the new I-6 270hp engine and preproduction testing results-6 engines were on on test bench conditions-wide open-for 300,000 miles each without failure. They put 50+engines through the 150,000 mile.
burns..
one2one::::::You had the accessory belt replaced??
Did it break or did the dealer tell you it was cracked???? After you get the 3.5 engine broken and it frees up with miles; it is a fun runner and does not complain. Its not a 0-60 killer but on the open road it is a ball.. Totally different than the 3.8..I find the 3.5 more fun than the Northstar; maybe its not proper to abuse Caddies so I get my kicks from the 3.5. Its less money if it blows--but I don't run near redline ; for one doesn't need to strain it..
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Lindsey: Have you had your tires rotated? By whom? I am really curious to get to the bottom of these "warping" rotors.
One thing about the Intrigue - we will never have an outdated body style since there will only be one! I kind of like that...
It might give the dealer a starting point for tracing the problem.
The doors locking are control through different voltages passing through the Body Control Module (BCM). Has your dealer done a BCM diagnosis? It will also store error codes for 100 ignition cycles. Next time it happens, try to get it to the dealer before too long to check for any stored codes.
Good luck
Let's face it, if the 3.5 and the transmission were problem prone in the early stages we would have a mess; so its only redeeming qualities are few.
Revision of gas mileage figure posted yesterday for the last 198 miles with speeds of 2500rpms-2750 the average over 198 miles was 29.22mpg.
This is outstanding and a tribute to the SLP exhaust system..maybe a little????
BTW, the weatherman says we may get hit with another big storm (snow for me, probably rain for you). For us they're waiting to see if it will come up the coast and hammer us like it did in '93 & 96. They're hoping it moves out to sea and just give us flurries or rain. B4z, I believe it will be moving thru your neck of the woods. If the fluffy stuff does fall, take it out on an empty road and "play in the snow". Ahhhh, visions of my childhood...
BTW - had my 2000 Bonneville's auto door locks disengaged this week at dealer. No more locking very time it shifts into gear and then unlocking when it goes into Park. Maybe my 45 year old mind is starting to play tricks on me but I could swear I also had that intermittent automatic locking problem when the car was left parked and unlocked. Will have to monitor that now.
Ken
What I need is a TSB on struts--to authorize replacement at no charge to eliminate the "jounce bump". Any one had such a deal!!!!
Any modifications to the exhaust system, or did it fit right in? Any increase in top end power?
Called Olds Central, they called the Service Mgr. and he told them that all Intrigues have noisy front ends and that ones off the showroom floor are the same. This dealer buys service loaners at the auction; 98s which are noisy but not like mine; besides who cares for it is an Olds problem.
The Olds people called me back and relayed the story which I already knew; I told them to check with their Engineering experts and call me Friday morning.
If Olds refuses to address this problem then I cancel the extended warranty w/o charge and get performance struts installed or sell the car in the present condition..
I told the Olds people this is not a new problem and it has been fixed by engr. revisions; what a crock???? Just install the 01 struts on my 99 and we will live happy forever!!!! I understand why Olds keeps their head buried in the sand for the liability to replace 200,000 front struts is awesome.. This is not a safety item and Olds will fade in 24 months so their attitude is; screw the customer?????
Funny story. I was driving with a buddy from work today going to lunch and we were driving behind an Acura 3.2TL. The Acura shifted over to the next lane cutting off another driver (who had to slam on brakes to not hit the Acura). My buddy says to me.. "see what that guy in the Accord just did"?? Too funny!!
I feel for those impala guys.
JR
white6: Other than a couple of oil/filter/lube jobs, I have had all scheduled service, including tire rotation, done by local Olds dealer. You would *think* their mechanics would know to use torque wrench to tighten lugnuts.
temp gauge, mine typically stays right below the 1/2 mark. Even in city traffic on 95 degree days, it seldomly gets above the 1/2 mark. I've actually noticed that when the A/C is off and I've been in traffic and then park and sit with the engine idling for a few minutes that it creeps slightly above the 1/2 mark then the fans must kick on as it will drop. With the A/C on the fans stay on and it never does go above the 1/2 mark. My father's 95 Aurora will climb almost to the 3/4 mark when idling in traffic in hot weather.
didndak, funny thing I too was behind a TL 3.2 today. I was stuck in traffic so I got to examine it's rear end very well. Certainly not as attractive as the woman driving it, but as for the car I see alot of the last generation Legend in it from the rear. Side views look alot like an Accord, but the rear looks like the last Legend. And it suffers the Japanese billboard syndrome with "A-C-U-R-A" in large letters on the rear of the car. The tailpipes were the same thing you see on a V6 Accord.
1415, how mush does Cadillac charge to do a serpantine belt on a Northstar? My father's 95 Aurora still has the orginal belt and it has alot of cracks. He is a "do it yourselfer" whenever possible, but has determined that he cannot do that as it packed so tightly in the car. I did help him replace the water pump belt last summer as it was literally coming apart. I had the engine running one day and kept hearing a "ting ting" noise under the hood so I popped the hood and stuck my ear down closer to the engine and determined where it was coming from. The belt was like $9 and it took an hour or less to replace. It was not hard at all. To bad the 3.5 doesn't have it's water pump mounted where it is on the V8. I think that is a very good design and the water pump itself should be a fairly easy job should it need replacing some day.
The Toyota Sienna had several chronic problems that carried over several years after introduction (and may still not be dealt with) such as steering 'pulling', malfunctioning sliding doors, interior rattling, washer fluid leaking, and others. Check the Sienna problems topic to see the frustration owners have had getting Totota to come up with a fix for these problems, or even to acknowledge they exist.
My local newspaper's ombudsman went to bat against Toyota for one owner with the Sienna steering-pulling problem, and many readers wrote in about having the same problem, spread over several model years, and not getting anywhere with the manufacturer.
There is a similar story with chronic problems in the Honda Odyssey. That model has 30 sections in the main Edmunds Odyssey topic and 7 problem sections. A lot of owners found the same problems year after year not being fixed.
The examples of Toyota/Honda/Nissan igonoring problems goes way back. The only reason cars like Camry and Accord are as reliable as they are now is because they eventually ironed out problems over a decade or more.
etharmon::::::Never had a Cadillac belt changed; the Northstar water pump belt is not part of the serpentine setup. It is off the opposite end of the motor--backside.. At 39k miles or so they wanted to replace the water pump belt for $65, why?? Its the same game of scaring us old folks--so you know what I said; if its covered under the warranty; do it!!!! The other service hype of Cadillac is when they are changing the engine oil; the oil jockey relays to the service writer that the transmission fluid appears to be burnt, must be changed; $175.00. Rough idle--injectors need to cleaned $150.00.. This starts around 25k miles.
The 3.5 temp gauge stays below 1/2 way..The Caddy gives a digital readout on temp as well as rpms.. Going through Tenn the temp in mountains ranged from 197 downhill to 205 uphill.
Speaking of 1993 we left Delray Fla that Saturday morning and finally reached Detroit the following Wed. I-75 through Georgia was a parking lot of cars and Tenn was a total log-jam.. So we checked into a Altanta Ga downtown hotel and saw the city for Sunday, Monday and Tuesday..
February auto sales at Olds showed just a 5% drop from a year ago; while Buick was off 25% and Cadillac dropped 22%.. Toyota +1%, Honda +9%, and Nissan -6%..
America is becoming to look less like America!!!!
Fixing problems---not holding my breath!!!!
Need the name of a great aftermarket strut!!!!
Dropped off my car this morning. I hope they can fix this temperature gauge problem. Hopefully they will just replace the thermostat.
etharmon : I noticed the flicker once on a VERY cold night when the car sat outside. Never done it since. The car is always garaged and from what I hear.. the cold is what causes the flickers.
Honda was up 5%, probably stealing Toyota sales more than anything. A lot of that was MDX sales which are hot.
source : www.autonews.com.
My source was the "Detroit Free Press"; business section. Just can't trust a liberal newspaper to print the truth..
On my 3.1 in a 90 cutlass, it was the same type of deal as the 3.8, you would just put a 1/2 inch ratchet in the tensioner.
I don't know about the 3.5.
Might explain the blank face you encounter at the service dept. when you complain about your warped rotors, etc.
Are you? :-)
Pat
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At least I'll get the chance to play in the snow if I can get out the house.
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I guess my next car purchase is even less likely to be a GM now.
Here come more rebates or an earlier shutdown..
How long did the twin-cam 3.4L engine survive; I believe it first came out in the Chev Lumina???
To tell the truth, the GM folks are costing us money messing around with throwing darts for their product planning exercises.
I have heard that GM will be using a Honda engine soon. Will we all be driving Japanese cars? Will Toyota or Honda rescue Chrysler from the Germans?
The thought that i not only own an orphan car but an orphan engine is more than i can take.
I had pretty much decided that i would get another intrigue and now i am really concerned that it might not be such as smart thing.
What the heck is the electron family of engines?
I think i will go watch the F1 race that comes on at 9pm on Speedvision. I am not a happy camper.
Perhpas they aren't aware of the V-6 Aurora that also uses the 3.5. The V-6 Aurora is expected to be the volume seller btwn the 4.0 V-8 and 3.5 V-6. Therefore, if GM is dropping the 3.5 after the Intrigue, they're also saying that the Aurora is being dropped as well. Think about it: Why keep selling the Aurora w/V-8 when they purposely dropped the price and inserted the 3.5 to lure more women in. Drop the 3.5 and they're right back where they were with the Classic Aurora, an expensive car that has to compete against the likes of the I30 and ES300. I don't think so.
Don't forget too, we were told about a year ago that Olds was going to be around and rumors about it's shutdown were false. We all know how true that was!!! The only other conclusion is what 1415 said... Olds is closing a lot sooner than everyone is being led to believe.
"Although the engines are regarded as delivering excellent performance, the 3.5-liter units are expensive to manufacture and service, whereas the new High-Feature V-6s to be unveiled in 2003 or 2004 won't be as costly, the GM sources said."