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I seriously researched buying a new car for 6 months and the fact that I purchased an MPV indicates how impressed I am with the van. However, it was very helpful reading the postings on this forum because the engine shortcoming was discussed in a fairly objective manner. I imagine offering an optional larger engine would probably raise the price by $1000 or so, still very competitive with Honda and Toyota, particularly if one decides not to purchase other options in order to keep the price down.
You are correct the current engine is acceptable, but a 3L would be more appropriate for a vehicle of this size for those who drive lots of miles over hilly terrain.
It costs about $50 to service the transmission. I would recommend having that done more often than scheduled.
--java
1. Open your windows, then lock the doors using the key fob (or the "all doors lock" button).
2. Then reach in through the window and unlock any door by pulling up on the manual lock stem. The alarm will go off!
3.To shut it off you must have the key fob, or put the key in the ignition.
I don't know if it goes off because of a vibration sensor or a contact sensor. If its a vibration sensor it would also detect other types of "forced entry" .
PS- If you run into the Wawa leaving your spouse in the car, you be better off remembering NOT to lock the doors with the key fob, just in case they decide to get out!
Vanmeister
You should be able to do better than $1,000 off the invoice, but under no circumstance should you accept less. From my and my co-worker's experiences, be prepared to walk away if the dealer appears unwilling to deal initially. You will get a return call within a day or two with a much better deal.
BTW, we are just a couple of states over from you in Michigan. Hope this helps.
Regards,
JB
Sorry for the rambling here..but as you can see I'm in a quandry here.. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
Regarding the problems noted to date, here's what to look for:
1. Pulling to left
2. Vibration in front end at highway speeds
3. Frayed seat belt in 3rd row seat
4. Lean to one side
5. PCM reprogramming
6. Low city gas mileage
7. Front bumper recall
Those are all that I can remember thus far. If anyone can add to the list please do so. Most of the problems seem to have been fixed on later manufacture dates.
I have only experienced a very slight vibration in front end at speeds between 70-80 mph which appears to only be present on a bituminous coated (as opposed to concrete) expressway. I'm going to see if the vibration persists during a road trip this weekend. If it does, I'll have the alignment checked as other posters have indicated.
Regards,
JB
--java
With regard to pricing I paid $23,750 in New Jersey. Included was lev,4 seasons,roof rack,mud guards, 3 in 1 audio and pin striping.
I think invoice pricing is here to stay for those who are prepared, and big incentives will return to the same extent as 2001 unfolds.
On point, fairly or not, the cause of the existing incentives are the underpowered 2.5 L engine and size of the van (bigger is better?) The vans that are in short supply (HonToy) seem not to be viewed this way.
imho.
Also isn't there something wrong w/certain tires?
Thanks.
Had to do a quick replacement because the stock tires from yok..... are a special brand and take two week for deliverly. Changing the tire was very simple and after about 5 min looking for the donut I final found it under the van. On the passenger side rear door there is a little cut out under the floor mat and there is a special tool in the bag where the floor jack is to lower the tire. I kind of like this idea, much better than where the honda had there tire just in case the van was full.
Also I ordered the new tire and I will look for a replacement rim and see if I can keep the full size spare under the car instead of the donut.
tboner: Any thoughts on this?
Anyway, to share my pricing information with you all, I got the 4 seasons, fogs, roof rack, 6 cd changer, and power moon. I got the $1,000 rebate and an additional $700 for the dealer meeting his quota's. He had a nice inventory & i didn't know about the $700. MSRP was $28,500, invoice was $25,800 and my cost was $24,100. I have the sand mica w/beige leather...it's a beautiful machine, as many of you already know!
BG
Geeze, what a waste of good goofing off time work is!
TB
Regards,
JB
I have liked what I have heard on this site about the MPV's..except for the problems ...so I think this is the way we will go..have also considered Plymouth or Dodge but from what I can see here most people feel that the MPV will prove to be more reliable in the long run. (Is this the first year for the MPV??)
We live in northern NJ--anyone have any dealer they reccomend? I am thrilled to see people are getting invoice minus $1,000 minus another $750 or so customer rebate and am hoping to do as well.
Thanks for any help---by the way we would love an LX but for affordability may have to settle for a DX ..with 4-seasons--I did learn alot here ...thanks!!!!
We went on a Monday night and the place was crawling with people. They have a large inventory of MPV's (at least 30 when we went). We found what we wanted, negotiated a good price (about $1000 below invoice, using the dealer incentive)and took it home the same night, all prepped and with a full tank of gas.
Good Luck!
Our LX doesn't have the 4 seasons package. The only options we have are rear air, floor mats, rear cargo net and 3-1 stereo.
I don't think too many were made like this. When we were looking, another couple had their eye on the one we were test driving. We just got to the dealership a few minutes earlier and lucked out I guess.
Obviously it all boils down to what you want and can afford.
Good luck.
The price of a 2000 LX with no options and current rebates/incentives could be around $18.8k, versus the $17k I've seen strippo DXs advertised for. If you can find an LX with little or no options, it's the way to go.
They seem to have a good inventory to choose from.
It would seem to me you would be better off waitng until after the 5th. The incentives may even be better since the '01s will be out soon.
Good Luck..it is a nice vehicle, so far. No problems.
Steve
The Mazda brochure describes exactly what it includes and the features refer to under the hood items, such as heavy duty battery.
Here's why: The pkg. includes larger radiator, rear heat, larger windshield washer capacity, heavy duty rear defrost, and auxillary transmission cooler. If you have rear a/c, you can't adjust the temperature (only the fan speed) without the rear heat. Our rear a/c is freezing cold and we regret not being able to adjust it's temperature. The 4/s pkg. is the only way to fix that problem. Also, consider this: The engine is probably underpowered and the tranny works pretty hard sometimes. The auxillary cooler that comes with the 4/s pkg. should help the tranny last longer. For only $344.00 extra (invoice pricing), I believe it's worth every penny -IMHO! Cheers.
Steve
Our van is a green ES with the following options: 4 seasons; roof rack, fog lights, 3 in 1 stereo, rear bumper protector and luggage tray (whatever you call the liner in the luggage area - we have a dog who sheds). Price was $23,900 including delivery fee, not including tax and registration. I think I could have gotten it for a little less but I was under spousal pressure to close the deal pronto! Delivery is in the next few days. Dealer was Mazda Gallery in Norwood, Mass.
We have 2 young kids who are very excited. Our current car is a 1992 basic Taurus wagon and this is a big step luxury-wise. My only real gripe is that the driver's seat has no power adjustment, which seems lame for the high end model. My wife is about 5' and I am 5'8" on a good day so there will be a lot of readjusting whenever we switch. My wife is also disappointed that the passenger doors are not power operated, but they feel pretty light to me, so that shouldn't be a problem. I'm looking forward to joining the Cruisers' Club. Thanks again to all the detailed posters in these forums.
Steve
Thanks for any additional info you can share and welcome to the club.
Regards,
JB
I wish the the best in your decision making whatever the choice.
Regards,
JB
Steve
Last I heard from dealer this morning was that the incentive/rebate had not changed on the MPV.
My two cents...CALL FIRST!
Enjoy.
Also, I wanted to address some posts that I just read from a couple weeks back about the tether anchor points. PLEASE be sure that you are using the correct tether anchor spots (they are not automatically installed in the U.S.) although they have the pre-cut areas. If you use a hook that is not meant for a tether anchor (such as a cargo hook) it is probably not strong enough and could allow the tether to fly around the van during a crash and injure someone! One of the tether bolt anchor points is right next to a cargo hook (that gray plastic thing). DON'T USE THAT! The force of a collison is immense and a tether strap could break off of the hook.
My dealer installed my tether bolts for free (the parts were $7.40) and it was well worth it. Yes, I got a universal kit with my Safe Embrace but this thing looks great in the van (they match them to the interior and have a cover for when not in use).
Steve
I used the www.mazdausa.com website e-mailing my quote to several dealers. E-mail negotiations is so much easier and efficient than dealing with in-person strong-arm tactics. Highly recommended. Although only 3 dealers were hooked-up to receive e-mail and only 1 actually responded in a timely manner (1 said they'd call and didn't and the other never contacted us).
The deal I received was $23,759 plus DMV & Dealer Admin Fees of $78 on a Highlight Silver LX with Touring Pkg, 4 Seasons, Power Moonroof, 6 CD Changer, Rear Air, and Roof Rack.
The Fleet Dealer originally quoted me invoice plus $250 dealer markup less any applicable rebates. So $24,909 (which included destination charge) minus $1,000 dealer incentive netting out to a total of $23,909. Since the vehicle just arrived on the lot and hadn't been unwrapped and inspected yet, I counter-offered at 23,750 since the 2% of base msrp ($445) would be pure profit since they wouldn't have to pay for inventory/showing costs. They came back saying $23,759 would be $100 over invoice.
I too was hoping for better incentives today, but hadn't been able to definitely confirm anything. Can anyone confirm the rebate and/or incentive situation with the MPVs?
shinebo
The $1000 customer incentive may be a special offering in some specific areas/regions but is NOT a nationwide offer (like Mazda financing or the manufacturer's $1000 rebate). Perhaps some areas have rephrased the orig $1000 rebate.
On another subject, their service department has a free scheduled oil change at 1,000 miles. I recall reading elsewhere that it wasn't necessary, but since it's free, what the heck.
I was feeling a little stupid about buying the car just a few days before the extra incentives were reported in the recent postings, but it seems that they don't apply here. Glad to see that many other readers are taking the plunge now that dealers are eager to sell. I swear I've seen more MPV's on the road since we bought ours and I haven't even got it yet.