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Anyone else have a similar issue with GM not supplying a build date?
Major points:
1). Throttle tip in is much more refined with the new I6 because of the drive by wire accelerator pedal. The 4.3L V6 tended to be too torquey from idle and would jump off the line making it difficult to accelerate from a stop smoothly.
2). The I6 is among the smoothest engines I've ever driven - Japanese ones included.
3). The I6 is among the freest reving engine I've ever driven, and does so without the loud racket that many 4 valve/cyl engines produce. It has a low exhaust note that is sporty but subdued.
4). It definitely accelerates much more quickly than my Blazer. When you get on the engine, the throttle control kicks in and you get the torqueyness you need. When you are taking it easy, the throttle control lets you ease the power. Zero-to-sixty times I haven't measured, but I barely get to look at the speedometer under acceleration before I have to back off (or exceed the speed limit).
5) When overdrive kicks in, it loafs around 1200rpm at 45mph. For many streets, you torque around at 1200rpm and the tranny never downshifts because there is plenty of torque. On the freeway, it also loafs around, but zips to 3000rpm easily to pass. I haven't had opportunity to get above 3000rpm.
This web site will help...
Kirk
Just don't get a good feeling about these colors, like are they having trouble with them? Just seems like bad planning or maybe they're trying to rush these out. One gets to wonder.
http://www.arifleet.com/production.html
My husband checked all the fluid levels when we brought the Bravado home. It used a quart of oil before it even reached 3000 miles. I called today to schedule an appointment for it's first oil change and I mentioned this to the service manager. He told me that G.. states that it is acceptable for "these trucks to use a quart of oil every thousand miles or so." I told him that we have never had to add oil between changes, and believe me, we do keep track of these things. He said that from now on when I need to add oil I have to drive it the 35-40 minutes to the dealership so he can check the oil and write down the mileage for documentation for G.. in case anything ever becomes of it. First time it was on a Sunday, several states from home. He is going to have to come up with a plan for vacations and holidays because I plan to be gone a lot this summer.
The only other person that I know that also has a 2002 Bravado used a quart of oil by 2000 miles. It is definitely worth keeping track of.
By the way, anyone having trouble with the engine racing for the first few blocks when you first start out. Did it to me today for the first time. Please let me know. Thanks!
I have notice the Engine Fan running running hard the first couple of miles. The manual mention this on page 5-17:
"This vehicle has a clutched engine cooling fan. When the clutch is engaged, the fan spins faster to provide more air to cool the engine. In most everyday driving conditions the clutch is not engaged. This improves fuel economy and reduces fan noise. Under heavy vehicle loading, trailer towing, and/or high outside temperatures, the fan speed increases when the clutch engages. So you may hear an increase in fan noise. This is normal and should not be mistaken as the transmission slipping or making extra shifts. It is merely the cooling system functioning properly. The fan will slow down when additional cooling is not required and the clutch disengages. You may also hear this fan noise when you start the engine. It will go away as the fan clutch disengages."
Now the temperture here has been in the 90's for the pass couple of days. I have been getting this high fan speed everytime I start to drive my car.
Could I have a faulty engine fan clutch? It make a fairly loud fan noise from the engine compartment. I'm planning on taking to the dealer for a check up.
My GMC ENVOY also burns more than normal amount of Motor Oil.
I live in Central Florida where the temperature from 6/1 - mid October never goes below 72 degrees. The garage temperature in the early morning is at about 85 degrees. My V6 Blazer frequently exhibited the excessive fan noise for the first 1/4 mile or so after startup. My new TB has yet to exhibit it.
What in the world is making a couple of paint colors so hard to get? That certainly doesn't seem it should be in the rocket science category.
rpageau. How did you get the 5/60 extended coverage? Are you the one in Arizona that had another dealer pick it for the recall? If that's the case, I remember all the problems you had and you deserve the extra coverage. I wrote a letter to GM requesting it and shortly after received a phone call from them that they were not extending the warranty.
Does anyone know enough about vehicle paint to explain the reason behind the delay with specific colors? I'm not knowledgable in the area, but am curious about it.
Anyone know about upcoming incentives from GM on 2002 TB? I'm in California.
Please see accessories and modifications posting #7 for info on this topic.
I have noticed the fan noise but not nearly as bad the loud ROAR of my '98 Blazer for the first 1/4 mile or so.
Has anyone noticed how totally worthless the front drink holder is in the Bravada? I cannot understand why they put it in front of the rear wiper control and in the way of the shifter while it is in park. I cannot understand why they did away with the column shifter like they had in the Blazers. And why put the parking brake lever is there instead of by your feet? What a bunch of wasted space on the console.
I agree with you about the cup holder in the console. Someone didn't think that one through. I am pleased to say that my Bravada has not used any oil since we added the quart. Hopefully this was a one time deal. It's in the shop right now getting it's first oil change and a few "fixes". They are ordering a new console for it because the lid was crooked, and a new seat belt. The service guy was very nice and admitted that they don't know much about these vehicles because they have a new motor and etc. He said that they would be learning on these for future reference. Scary, but I appreciate his honesty. The price we pay for buying a first year vehicle...but my Bravada is worth it!
Steve
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Had to get the owners manual out to find how to override the shift interlock You pull the shift boot and press a orange lever. Droped it off at the dealer this morning we will see what broke.
Allen
His first question was to inquire if my gas cap was on tight. Sure enough, the cap was on, but not turned all the way. A few minutes later, the service engine light went off.
Allen
Anyway, that prefaces the Envoy deal. I decided upon the Envoy, of course, just time for a RIG!
The GMC dealer gave me 20500 for my trade. $500 above invoice on the Envoy. Free winter mats and Onstar Premium Service upgrade for 1 year, 2 tanks of gas, let me drive it home last night before the deal was complete just to make sure I and my friends/family approved of the choice. And gave me a lease with a money factor of .00205 or about 4.9% APR equivalent. GM Smartlease with included "free" GAP Insurance and no disposition fee. Fees upfront 1381.12 incl. license 149.25, acquisition fee 595, 1st mo 581.87.
Keep in mind, my lease payment is high intentionally. I pulled all cash out of the deal since my business is leasing it and it is a write-off. Taking home about $6100 from my trade-in after loan payoff.
Overall my RENTAL fee is 3639.12 for 36 mos/15,000 mi per annum lease. or about 109 a month. Not bad in my mind. of course could always be better, right?! residual is 17985.60 or I believe right around 50%.
Have never leased before, but my accountant said that with a factory incentive lease it is almost stupid in MY situation not too since it is so easy from a business standpoint, unless I want a rig over 6000 lbs GVWR for instant equipment expensing and quick depreciation schedule. Not ready for the Denali, although I drove it and it was nice, like the Envoy better.
BTW, Monterey Maroon with Dark Pewter, 1SH and Moonroof pkg.
Thanks for listening, feel free to comment on any mistakes I made in this deal, we only learn by doing and improving next time!
Kirk