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Isuzu Axiom

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  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    I just got one for my Armada from Lund. Do a search on the web many web sites usually have them for about $60.

    -mike
  • rcopa1rcopa1 Posts: 24
    Yea, now that i have had the tires awhile (about 9 months) they have worn very nicely. I just took my first long trip with the tires and was amazed at the highway ride. The vehicle gave me a great smooth ride. They especially ride nice when set to isuzu recommended PSI presure. You'll be very happy with this tire, and it gives the vehicle a nice beefy stance. It's a shame that this vehicle dosent have better steering/ride, i still cringe when i see a pot hole cause i know im going to feel it to the bone. A vehicle this good looking and one in it's orignal price range should have a much better ride - SUV or not. The gas still freaks me out, 13-14 mpg in the city. It's at least 2 mpg worse than the 99 rodeo i had. But that's another whole post lol. Other wise this vehicle has been great.
  • mjayemjaye Posts: 13
    Im sorry I didn't realize. It is now set
  • mjayemjaye Posts: 13
    I want you to know that Isuzu wanted to sell me a Car Care extended warranty at purchase. The dealer did not offer Isuzu's warranty. The dealer lowered the Car Care warranty from 1200 dollars to 300 dollars and I would not buy it because it was not Isuzu's warranty. I would like to know if anyone has an Isuzu extended warranty. Isuzu wanted to pass the warranty issues and problems on to someone else. 55% of my 02 Axiom was built by GM. The ABS system. Ascender included in GM's recall May 3 2005. My 2002 Axiom will be included in the recall also for the 1999 to 2002 vehicles.
    Prime time May 3 2005.
  • cptsessocptsesso Posts: 116
    What recall are you talking about? I can't find info on any recent recalls for the 02 Axiom.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    In fact most of it was not at all built by GM. The only thing GM is the 4L30E transmission. I personally bought the Warranty-Direct extended warranty. It has already paid for itself on my trooper.

    -mike
  • chabechabe Posts: 5
    just wanted ta say hi to all :
    Am trying out an 2002 axiom w/35000 miles - loaded with everything but the kitchen sink ( nav - leather -cd changer, tow package etc ) from a dealer friend of mine for the sum of 14,900 - we just got back from our 1st test drive and have to say I'm err i mean were quite impressed,my wife loves it immensely and so do I except for 1 thing--I'm 6 feet and my foot dosnt fit the accelerator real comfortable which isnt a problem on long drives what w/cruise cntrl -- I guess I 'm just used to driving my dodge ram--but all in all its a tight and reasonably sweet ride--any things I should look for in paticular before I make my decision would be helpful...thnx Steve C
  • cracoviancracovian Posts: 337
    As the second owner you will lose Isuzu's extended warranty. Also, there's no NAV on this vehicle unless it's been installed separately (The orange screen is a glorified clock and HVAC control.) It's way too much money for a discontinued used vehicle. Is it at least 4WD? I'd suggest looking at a few "new" 2004 4x4 XS that are still left around the country for $20K+. Those come with a much better direct injection engine (250hp), Japanese transmission with a dipstick, a few other minor improvements, and a longer warranty (for whatever it's worth.)
  • recently purchased a new Isuzu Axiom, like it a lot but.....checked the oil at 2000 miles and it was about a 1/4 quart low. Didn't think anything of it as I never checked the oil after we bought it....well, topped it off, then checked the oil again at 3100 miles and it is again about 1/4 quart low. There are no leaks (garage floor is clean). Ok, so I called the dealer to schedule an oil change and asked about oil level...thinking maybe it uses a little during the 1st few thousand miles "break-in" period. I was shocked when the service rep told me on the phone that all the Isuzu's use abut 1/2 quart of oil every 3 thousand miles, its nothing typical of Isuzu engines! I asked again just to be sure and he said yes, it will use about 1/4-1/2 quart between oil changes! I told him I did not believe that to be true, and proceeded to schedule the oil change for next week at which time I will see the service rep in person ...and the saleman who sold us the vehicle as well! Has anyone ever heard that a new vehicle will use oil between oil changes? A friend told me to call another dealer and ask the same questions to see if the service rep was just mis-informed or that's what every Isuzu dealer says. Any advice on this would be appreciated.
  • cptsessocptsesso Posts: 116
    It is true. Almost all Isuzu's will burn some oil between changes. My 2002 Axiom burns about 1qt every 7500 miles (usually add 1/2 qt at 3200 miles). Some times it is only about 1/2 qt for the 7500 miles.

    Some people experience greater oil usage. It seems like, from reading these boards, that switching to synthetic reduces the oil usage.

    I use Mobile 1 synthetic 5w-30 and it seems to work well.
  • So, I bit the bullet at 44K and replaced those nasty Goodyears slip-and-slides with some new Michelin MXV4 Energy Plus tires. Got them special order from Sams Club for about $175 plus 9 each for installation.

    In a word - they are wonderful. THESE ARE THE TIRES THAT SHOULD COME WITH THIS VEHICLE. Gone is the slip 'n slide effect that caused many a fishtail in the Florida summer rains. Yesterday evening there was a tremendous Noah's Ark-like downpour and my Axe with its new Michelins was rock solid stable.

    So, if any of you want to get tires for your Axes, get the Michelin MXV4 Energy Pluss. I bought the exact same size as came on the car originally and they look and ride great.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    My 2000 Trooper uses about 1Q/2500miles very common and most manufacturers allow up to 1Q/1000 miles. Other than that these motors run forever. When I switched to synthetic it jumped up to about 1Q/3500 miles so not too bad. If that's the only problem with it I'd just keep tabs on the oil level and add as needed.

    -mike
  • rcopa1rcopa1 Posts: 24
    Glad to hear you like the tires. I must have been caught in the same rain storm. I was on the Florida turnpike and it was pouring. You'll enjoy them most on the highway. Thats were i've noticed the biggest difference. Nice smooth ride doing 80. Interesting that they are the same size as the OEM's but seem so much wider. Those goodyear are the worst tires i have ever owned!
  • mjayemjaye Posts: 13
    It is on my purchase sticker 55% US/Canadian parts. The recalls (ABC Prime Time) May 3 2005 was for GMAC ( Trail Blazer, Envoy,Acsender, Escalade ETC years 1999 -2002, ABS not stopping the vehicles soon enough. My 2002 Axiom makes a grinding noise and jumps forward not stopping the vehicle. I sent pictures of the changed parts to the NHTSA, and I received a return call today and will talk to the Defects Investigation Office June 14, 2005. I was awarded $6000.00 in arbitration April 28, 2005 for the number of time that I had to take my Axiom to the shop. View the court records at the following link.

    http://198.173.15.31/onlinecases/casesnapshot/casesnapsearch.asp?Database=1&case_no=&=&=&=- &PLtype=2&sname=American+Isuzu&courtdate=

    I rejected the arbitration decision because, All my problems still exist and I am concerned about you guy's with 2002 Axioms too. I want them to admit to the problem and recall all of our vehicles too. My ABS comes on too often and does not stop my Axiom soon enough. It makes a grinding noise and jumps forward when I need to stop. My court date is set for June 20, 2005. I will be back to check for responses
  • mjayemjaye Posts: 13
    I could send you my purchase sticker 55% USA/Canadian parts
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Is absolutely ZERO proof that it's GM built. The Axiom is assembled at the former SIA plant in Indiana, where the Rodeo was also built. The engine came from Japan, transmission from France (GM), however the rest of the car is not GM parts for the most part, and it definitely was NOT assembled by GM. So before you go spouting stuff get your facts straight.

    Your ABS issue may or may not be related to the tires and suspension. The subaru guys have a similar problem with their ABS until they upgrade to better than factory tires.

    -mike
  • cptsessocptsesso Posts: 116
    "It is on my purchase sticker 55% US/Canadian parts. The recalls (ABC Prime Time) May 3 2005 was for GMAC ( Trail Blazer, Envoy,Acsender, Escalade ETC years 1999 -2002, ABS not stopping the vehicles soon enough."

    The Isuzu Ascender is listed in this recall group because it is a 100% GM product with an Isuzu badge on it. All Isuzu did was have GM make a few cosmetic changes to their Trailblazer/Envoy platform and they call it an Isuzu Ascender. The only thing the Axiom has in common with these GM vehicles is they all have 4 tires.

    The problem with the Axiom/antilock brakes is the p.o.s. Goodyear Integrity tires they put on it. They are definitely the worst tires I have ever had and definitely do not belong on any SUV.

    Change the tires and your problems will go away. I only wish the rest of us who were smart enough to drop these tires could get our tire money back from Isuzu.
  • mjayemjaye Posts: 13
    Which Subaru ?
  • mjayemjaye Posts: 13
    Did you check the court case link, full docket? Why was I awarded $6000.00 by arbitration? It was not because of the tire issue.
  • mjayemjaye Posts: 13
    I encourage everyone with the stock tire issue to log on to the NHTSA web site and report all incidents of failures. This is where the recalls are generated. I could have traded the vehicle, like some others did. Go to the NHTSA website and read the consumer complaints. go to this site also.

    http://www.mycarstats.com/auto_Complaints/ISUZU_Complaints.asp
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Which shipped with RE92 tires which are decent but not for the enthusiastic driver of the WRX.

    My guess is they gave you the $6k for some other reason and without knowing the full knowledge of the case, can't really comment on it.

    But as was noted above the ASSENDER is a GM re-badge, not the AXIOM.

    -mike
  • chabechabe Posts: 5
    same problem w/the goodyear integritys as everyone else seems to have/had, did a long research on the net on tires and thier performance and ratings. A good place to check ratings is www.tirerack.com as they sell and supply many of the tires to retailers in many parts of the country--- the ratings on the integrity's are great for dry roads--but thats where it stops- the ratings drop from there to as low as it gets--the michilins held decent ratings,except for snow conditions-and price,for my axiom I found the best all around rated (from excellent to superior in all categories ) to be the BF Goodrich traction TA/T all season touring which sells for 75.00 apiece thru tire rack plus 10.00 apiece for shipping! thats alot less than 175.00 for the michilins which don't rate as high--I purchased them and last week had them high speed balanced and mounted and they are so far wonderful,they are quiet,handle great in the rain (which seems to be abundant so far this year where i live) they corner nicely--respond nicely to steering, great hydro resistance,have a 70,000 mile warrenty,and ship via fedex or ups in 3 days to you or whoever you have do your tires local garage etc...this is just food for thought and info on another tire for those of you who are looking,and it won't put a big dent in your wallet-----happy trails!
  • chabechabe Posts: 5
    the axiom in question does have an nav system installed (not oem of course) the final price was 14 grand --which is 1 grand over book trade in value,with only 35,000 miles, 4x4 and meticulously kept,is a decent price even for a discontinued model,as I searched extensively online and found nothing under 15 grand for any comparable axiom,and as this is what we decided on we are thus far quite happy w/it,we did however take off the goodyears and replaced them with another tire,thnx for your input---happy trails
  • I'm noticing some shuddering when stopping from time to time. I just had the brakes replaced and rotors turned within the past year. It's almost like the abs is kicking in....
    Any thoughts?
    Thanks!
  • cptsessocptsesso Posts: 116
    Is it wet out? Are you still using the stock Goodyear tires? If so, they are the problem.
  • mitikdmitikd Posts: 6
    Have anyone replaced transmission fluid? It's usually required @60K miles. However, there is nothing about changing transmission fluid on the Axiom manual, and there is no dipstick (at least on 2002 model) to check if it's still pink color. I have 2002 Ax with 65K miles and I think that it's time to replace a fluid. Any thoughts will be greatly appreciated.
  • cptsessocptsesso Posts: 116
    I had mine changed at 30k miles. I plan on doing it every 30k from now on. I had the work done at a transmission shop managed by a former Isuzu mechanic. He was very familiar with the 4L30E transmission in the Axiom and suggested it was a good move to have it flushed and filled every 30k.
  • newronewro Posts: 19
    I have a 2000 rodeo ls which runs great and always has. Been relatively trouble free, but with 82k miles on it, might be time for something newer. Thinking of a new '04 rodeo or the Axiom, My problem is Isuzu. They seem to be bailing out of the US marketplace and it makes me real uncomfortable.
    How have the Axioms held up qulity wise and it Isuzu staying or going? I had also heard that the Axiom is essentially the same as the GMC Envoy, is this true.
    Looks like I can get an '04 for next to nothing, loaded. Is this too good to be true? Thanks
  • wlbrown9wlbrown9 Posts: 838
    No more US Rodeo or Axioms being built. The Ascender is an Isuzu version of the Trailblazer/Envoy.

    I just looked and though it seems longer, the Rodeo and Axiom were made through the 2004 model year.

    Latest rumors I heard was that about 2007 Isuzu planned to bring out a new vehicle in the US of their own design...not a copy of some GM vehicle. BUT the real questions are if they will be in the US that long and if so, can they come up with the $$$ to design and build a new SUV that will be a marketing success in the US? Noone seems to know that now, probably not even upper management at Isuzu. (The last info I remeber seeing was probably over 6 months ago. Has anyone seen anything lately on Isuzu's plans for the US?)

    Bill
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