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Nissan 350Z

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 16,895
    RWD sport coupes .... so let's throw the corvette Z06, Dodge viper, Jag XK, and a handful of porsches into the comparison.

    the options (and price) difference is a big reason why they are very different vehicles. The bimmer STARTS at about $13k more than where the Z starts.

    If you step up to the Grand Touring Z, you still save $5k over the base bimmer. The equipment difference can almost be considered a draw because each vehicle at that point comes with equipment the other doesn't.

    I'm not sure why you wouldn't be comparing the G35 instead.

    Honestly, if you can afford the bimmer, I don't see where the decision lies. And if the Z has ANYONE thinking twice about their 335 purchase, again I say GOOD FOR NISSAN!! That's an incredible feat, in my opinion.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '08 Town&Country

  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 16,895
    hmmm... i wonder how much it really would help the 0-60 time on a stock vehicle. I found the biggest enemy to acceleration in the Z was traction, not lack of power. Of course, with aftermarket tires, we could see improvements, and I'm sure even more drastic improvement with drag slicks, but I'm pretty confident you won't see that happen in any magazine comparo. ;)

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '08 Town&Country

  • anon954anon954 Posts: 11
    5K difference is not much! You have to compare equal features also. If 5,000 dollars is too big a gap for you you should not even be a car enthusiast. Comparing a top of the line nissan to entry level(3-series)BMW is fair. Comparing two cars made by the same company which both have the same engine, frame, and engineering is a stupid comparison!Oh yeh, all the cars you mention (z06, xk, viper, porshe) those are unfair and in completely different price ranges!
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 16,895
    Comparing two cars made by the same company which both have the same engine, frame, and engineering is a stupid comparison!

    who is doing that? You realize I was saying to compare the G35 to the 335, don't you??

    You have to compare equal features also.

    I would if I could, but a base bimmer doesn't come with leather and a limited slip differential like the GT Z. Likewise, a GT Z does not come with memory seats like the base bimmer. WHY? because the 335 is not a sportscar like the Z and the Z is not a luxury car like the bimmer.

    Oh yeh, all the cars you mention (z06, xk, viper, porshe) those are unfair and in completely different price ranges!

    ummmm... EXACTLY my point! glad we agree.

    Do you realize that a base bimmer is only $3k less than a base vette. SO... if $5k doesn't mean that much, then why not extrapolate your position and compare a vette to the Z?? Oh, and, hell, the Cayman is only another $5k beyond that, and a Cayman S is only a couple grand more than a loaded 335. I could go on and on. The fact is, you have to draw the line somewhere.

    If 5,000 dollars is too big a gap for you you should not even be a car enthusiast.

    LOL! See my statement above. Hell, what if I said I think you shouldn't be an enthusiast because you are picking a weighted-down GT Z rather than the lighter base model or more sporty Track model? Everyone has their cross to carry. Some folks find it more important to put $5k in their child's college fund. Others may rather use that $5k to mod their vehicle.

    Right there is a heck of an idea. If you really want to cross-shop the 2, you should be considering a GT Z with a twin-turbo mod. That would bring the prices right in line with each other. (although i'd still argue one is a luxury car and the other is not, at least you'd cure the price argument)

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '08 Town&Country

  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Forest Lakes, AZPosts: 3,207
    You're giving this person far too much credit.

    That he/she can understand what you just posted is highly unlikely.

    You have more patience than I.

    I'm down to the G35 coupe & 3-series BMW for my next vehicle, but the longer I look & listen, the closer I get to the BMW.
  • rennie4rennie4 Posts: 52
    nissanews.com charting the changes
  • anon954anon954 Posts: 11
    The infiniti lacks in all aspects, and IMO especially in looks. Now you mention BASE cayman(not S) BASE corvette not Z06. You keep changing what your comparing. All of the BASE models are NOT comparably equipped as afore mentioned in ALL the posts. Your math of BASE is only 3,000 extra and a comparable model is only 5,000 beyond that. With that logic you could compare all cars in the same price! Oh, a twin turbo mod now eliminates an already inferior warranty/service contract!
    What this all comes down to is that the new 335i is a much more impressive car even considering the slight price difference.
    BTW- yes have drove both 350z and g35 and the Z is a better car IMO so I would not even consider an entry level infinti over the historical Z car.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 16,895
    *yawn*

    alright, I'm done with you. I can't compare base models, but you can? (referring to the base 335)

    and, yes, i changed my comparison because (and this would have been obvious to the most dense reader) you originally stated you were comparing RWD coupes, which would include all that I listed, then YOU changed to mention price, which I originally mentioned, but you dismissed as unimportant.

    fine. whatever. you obviously have your own agenda and no amount of sane and logical reasoning can change that. As I've said, the mere fact that someone would pit the Z to the bimmer in their mind is REALLY good news for Nissan.

    good luck to you.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '08 Town&Country

  • anon954anon954 Posts: 11
    Good, if you submit you have no need to respond anymore with your foolhardy opinions. The only base model I compared was the BMW due to the price and the fact the 335i base model is already pretty loaded with *options since it is the top of the line 3-series (not including M).
    I never changed the price, look back at the posts.
    It is your own unappreciative outlook of Nissan that makes it inferior to BMW in such a way to be overjoyed at a comparo of a 335i and well equipped Z.
    A better kick in the pants for Nissan fans would be the many Z to M3 comparos, but since the dropping of the new 335i with a much more competitive price, this comparo is only natural.
    Read over the posts and look at how much you change stance on this subject.
    OH... don't forget your "done" with me :)
  • Advantages: Every inch the tyre-shredding muscle car. The 350Z provides barrel-loads of poke and a thrill-a-minute driving experience. Plenty of grunt from 283 hp V6.

    Disadvantages: Strictly a two-seater where some rivals offer four, and boot space is compromised by suspension strut.

    Verdict: Works brilliantly as coupe or convertible.

    Information from: http://www.car-catalog.com/sports_cars/nissan_350z.htm

    What do you think about this car? Please comment!
  • Does anyone know when the 2007 350Z will make it to the dealerships? It's more than half way into the first month of the new year, and there's still no information about the '07 Z on Nissan's website!
  • Well, at least Nissan updated their website to show information about the 2007 Z today.
  • dat2dat2 Posts: 242
    I just noticed carmax nissan in baltimore has a whole slew of them in now, all priced at invoice. http://www.carmax.com/dyn/newcar/newcar.aspx

    Has anyone driven this car yet to make comments about the added power of the new motor and any other changes?? I think the "power bulge" hood looks a little goofy but I've only seen it in pictures, and besides it is probably necessary for the twin air intake system.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 16,895
    I just looked up one there real quick and it came back at $100 under invoice. Interesting that they would price them so aggressively right away. I guess they feel the minor changes aren't enough to drive sales up any from last year.

    I can't confirm the invoice is accurate, however, since neither carsdirect nor edmunds has pricing for the '07s yet.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '08 Town&Country

  • dat2dat2 Posts: 242
    The invoice prices at least seem pretty close to what they were last year so it must be fairly accurate. I kinda wish I had waited now because the 07 updates are very appealing to me!! The only drawback is if you go on the nissannews site and look at the specs of the 07 model, the curb weight for the touring model is now up to 3400lbs! The original 03 model was "only" 3150lbs...
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 16,895
    yeah, this car really didn't need more weight. It needed to drop a few.

    I thought it was always over 3300, though. But, according to edmunds and msnautos, the '03 Touring was 3247. You may be thinking of the base model, which was 3188.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '08 Town&Country

  • hello, im looking into buying a 350z at the end of the year. So i guess it'll be a 2008 model. Does anyone know when these will be seen at the dealership?
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 16,895
    ya know, i could be wrong, but i seem to remember reading how the '07s didn't arrive till very very late in the year (like December) because they had a tough time getting rid of all the '06s.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '08 Town&Country

  • mrdennismrdennis Posts: 6
    i'm in iraq and it's july 07 i wanted a grand touring black on black but could only find a touring, so i brought it. had a friend pick it up in virginia, put it in storage for me until about nov. i'm look forward to driving it, but i cant seem to get the answer to one question. will the 350z do donuts, can you smoke the back tires. thank you
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 16,895
    you absolutely can smoke the back tires. I'm not sure, however, about doughnuts in stock form. Problem is I believe I've read that the VSA is not truly completely defeated by pushing the button to turn it off. I believe, however, there is a fuse you can pull to make it happen.

    When I attended Z Day at Raceway Park in NJ, a gentleman with a twin-turbo 350z had installed a manual kill switch to disconnect the fuse and completely defeat the VSA.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '08 Town&Country

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