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I would still take the BMW at more per month but not at $200+ more.
Thanks!
Some BMW dealers just have a higher markup, and one sales girl admitted it to me. After I offered a fair price, she quoted me at least $1,100 more than other dealers! Later, she found out I was talking to another BMW dealer (they all talk to each other), and she called wanting me to buy from her. I told her, "sorry, your price is way too high." She admitted and justified it by saying her dealership offers more "perks" and some people are willing to pay extra for that. Even if I was a millionaire, I wouldn't pay more than a $1,000 for the same car.
Advice: Avoid Crevier BMW in Santa Ana, CA.
I ended up getting a sweet deal on a 2009 335i sedan, fully loaded, colors I wanted, for the same price as a 2010 328i. Actually it was a little less!! It was a factory owned late model 2009, and was driven for 3 months by a BMW exec. I will post price and all info in another thread for 335i prices.
Some more sound advice...go to at least 3 dealers, and get 3 quotes. Also, Edmund's TMV is way too high for the 2010 328i, and other cars. You can get that car for $500 above invoice with floor mats (usually extra cost). Yes, beware of the "car mat curveball!!" Many sales people will try to add that on at the end, after you've already come to agreement on price!!
I was told that the $1500/$2500 Holiday Cash could be applied to the 09 cars.
But the dealer told me that I need to have my credit app in by yesterday to qualify for that cash. So I faxed my App in last night before leaving the office only to come back this morning and find a Transmission Verification Report which states that the Dealer's fax line was busy and the fax, thus, could not go through.
Now the dealer is being inflexible and telling me I missed out on the cash. Does anyone know if there are any new cash incentives/programs on the 2009s? Any information or suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks
I am new to here and hope to get some suggestions.
Today I got a email from a dealer and he offer me this:
2009 Black Sapphire BMW 335i
Loaded with Sport Package, Sunroof, Steptronic, Sat Radio, IPOD, Bluetooth
MSRP: $46,920
Sale Price: $38,445
Savings: $8475!
is this a deal or not? can I still negotiate with him? thanks!
It depends on how many miles, and condition. Last Saturday, I got the following:
2009 black sapphire BMW 335i, saddle brown interior, excellent condition, 6300 miles
Options: Sport, premium, xeon w/ adaptive headlights, comfort access, steptronic, sat radio, Ipod, bluetooth, fold-down rear seats
MSRP: 50,620
Price before tax, license, etc: 37,995
Price after tax, license, regis, 2,500 rebate toward down payment, and before interest: $39,800
I think I stole that car for that price.... Use this as a good example for your shopping. I think the finance manager made a mistake on the rebate,... I'm not sure if I was supposed to get $2,500 on a 2009 335i. The BMW website listed that rebate for the 2010 model, and 1,500 for the 328i.
Does anyone know how much the rebate was supposed to be for a 2009 335i?
Are you saying that the rebate for a 2009 335i is in fact $2,500, and not $1,500?
When I bought my 2009 335i last saturday, the finance manager made it look like a "mistake" in my favor when he added a $1,000 to the downpayment to make it $2,500! He was trying to sell me the 2 year extension on the maintenance, and I kept refusing. I felt so good after, thinking I got an extra grand.... but then I'm finding out I was supposed to get $2,500 after all!
I did get 3.9%, even though the bmw website stated 4.9% for 2010 335i .... not sure if this means for 2009 335i also? Who knows?
I forgot to add: Check www.kbb.com for blue book value. Price it as a used car even if sold as new. Add miles and as may options as possibe. If price is below "private party value", that's a good price.
Thanks for the confirmation! My dealer made it sound like they were giving me a "special deal"... they were just playing games, but I still got a great deal.
Even though the holiday sales event ended on 1/4 (and rebates), the BMW website lists lower financing rates for most models.... 2.9% instead of 3.9%. Not sure if the rebate offer will come back until next holiday season...
Thanks a lot for your nice suggestion. I will call the dealer to ask for details!
btw, so you actually paid $39800 finally, right? or you just only paid $39800-$2500? I am a little confused about the rebate.
The deal was part of the Nov/Dec incentive. BMW must have had a very strong finish to 2009 if the level of activity was similar at other dealerships.
328i Wagon w/steptronic, M-package and Metallic paint
or
335i w/steptronic, M-package and Metallic paint
It seems that either car with those options will have to be ordered. Do I still have room to negotiate when ordering in a car? Are these cars really going around invoice?
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i found out yesterday that they cashed my down payment AFTER i said i do not want the deal. I called them and was told it would take them "2 weeks to process a return for me". Is that even legal?
This dealership is very shady, when i was there to sign the contract, they gave me a contract for lease instead of purchase. afterwards i found out the numbers are diff. from what the salesperson originally promised me. the salesperson is very unprofessional and was yelling at me for not taking their car despite their hard work. i would not recommend it to anyone. stay away from this dealership in glendale!!!!!
how did you contact with dealer? by email, or phone, or go to the dealership?
Can you elaborate what is the 1250 transmission? I can't seem to find that incentive on Edmunds. Thanks.
I want BMW 328 standard, MSRP is ~36K,
How much should I offer ??
I got a 2010 328i auto, prem, sports, xenon, heated seats, for invoice (39.2K). That doesn't include taxes. I also got the 1500 rebate for financing with BMW (3.9%).
After coming on this forum AFTER I bought I'm kicking myself because I think you can get one for BELOW invoice. People are not lining up to buy cars no matter what the dealerships say.
I would email all the dealers I mentioned above, ask which one can start with invoice and then ask which one can beat it.
Another side note: After I got mine from Roseville, dealer in Concord emailed me and told me I should have gone with him as he was going to offer me "8,000" off MSRP. I think he was just upset that I didn't do business with him.
START WITH INVOICE.
Good luck.
I'm still need to decide 328i or IS250
This way I eliminated comparing quotes across brands.
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- The local sales guy spent several hours with me and I wanted him to get the deal
- My opportunity cost of spending 3 hours to pick up the car and drive
- Persistence of sales guy
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MSRP $60,450 with selling price of $ 51,180
OTD about $56,455
MSRP: 44,125
Premium Package
Steptronic Automatic Transmission
XENON ADAPTIVE
HIGH-DEFINITION RADIO
HEATED FRONT SEATS
SPLIT-FOLDING REAR SEATS W/SKI BAG
COMFORT ACCESS SYSTEM
DVD-BASED NAVIGATION SYSTEM
I wonder what is the best bargain I can get it for?
I am approaching the end of my lease on a 2007 328i and am considering my post-lease options. I am currently leaning toward not purchasing my car because I am wary of the maintenance costs after the initial 4 year period during which these costs are covered. I do like my car, however, and my top choice would be to extend my lease by a year if possible. I saw at least one post on this message board in which someone in a similar position received a monthly payment quote for a one year lease extension that was more than double their initial lease rate. I am not sure if this is typical and wanted to get broader input on how feasible it is to work with BMW to have a reasonable rate for a lease extension. Intuitively, it would seem that the rate should be lower, since I would be leasing a used car, but there may be other factors to consider.
Regarding some specifics on my car, I opted for 15 K miles per year (45 K total over the lease period), but have only driven ~29 K miles and so will be well under the limit. Additionally, my residual was in the standard range (~59% I believe).
My primary questions are:
- Is it common for BMW lessees (or any for that matter) to extend their lease beyond the initial 3 year period?
- Is there an optimal strategy for approaching BMW regarding this option? Would I have better luck working with BMW financial services or a dealer?
- Are there tips for negotiating for optimal terms on a lease extension?
- Regardless of what I decide, I presume that I will need to go through typical lease end processes (e.g. inspection of the car). Do people have pointers on how to navigate this effectively? I have been told that BMW sometimes considers tires with what they determine to be insufficient tread to not represent normal wear and tear. This seems like it could be a fairly subjective and potentially expensive assessment.
Thanks very much for your help. Let me know if this is not in the right thread - I can re-post to the appropriate place.
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Try posting the lease questions in the discussion that I linked in the post above yours...
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VOB was the only local dealer that had a sparsely optioned car I wanted. The other dealers had mostly loaded cars that I really don't needed.
MSRP $36,800. Out of door: $29,870 + tax only, Plus a $95 tag transfer fee which they said is for the state for registration and license transfer.
No doc/processing/advertisement/training fees!
Base price 33600
Titanium Silver 550
Automatic 1325
Heated front seats 500
Dest. charge 825
MSRP: 36,800
Not much negotiation needed. The internet price quote was $30260. I asked the sales lady to beat the Edmunds TMV ($29,460). She came back with $29,870 and I thought it was reasonable. Went there and the car was ready for me to test drive. Completed the transaction in one hour! No add-on fees. She had someone installed the carpets for free, which I was not sure if they were included in standard BMW car sales.
Overall, I am pleased with the hassle free transaction. I am just starting to explore the car. So far so good, except that the front seats are too narrow. I also missed the build in garage opening from my old Benz coupe. But I really should not compliant anything about a BMW for under $30k! It drives WELL!
Specifically, how can I be sure the invoice is actually the true invoice (and not something produced by a dealer to look like an invoice and then passed around online)?
Also, where can I get the latest (trustworthy) info on the dealer's rebate?
Is it possible to get info on the buyback the dealer gets from BMW at the end of the year for each car it sells?
Finally, are there any changes/additions to this info I should be aware of if I am ordering the car with ED (European Delivery)?
Thank you very much for any help. Please note who you are and how you know the information.