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rigt now where i live i should be able to get that 325i for 33800.
thanks
I don't think you'd be that happy with a "stripped" 330i.
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like i said i would love to be able to drive the car all summer when i can really enjoy it
and i want to be able to still have my color choice.
your help is appreciated
325i, auto, cold/prem/sport/hk/xenon w/o metallic paint for 33,890...invoice is 34,090 in my zip code
The "dealer incentive" (not rebate) is $1200 right now. A deal around invoice should be possible. It will probably go up in the fall, but selection will be less. If you can find the car you want now, I wouldn't wait. Have you found the car you want? Or does it have to be ordered?
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325i, auto, cold/prem/sport/hk/xenon w/o metallic paint for 33,890...invoice is 34,090 in my zip code
dealer says not many people get the sport pkg, thats why they don't have any in stock
do you have to pay extra for it to be ordered??
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what do you drive by the way??
Sport Package is designed for the "above average" buyer who expects a lot more out of their car. It is for people who love to drive but don't have the money for M. Very rare for a BMW dealer to order a Sport Pkg, esp. with manual transmission, equipped car for inventory.
Is truly sad that so much of BMW's USA dealer network doesn't treat their cars like the Ultimate Driving Machines. They focus more on softer luxury.
Most, too many, dealers cater to the average rather than promote the cars and marque.
325i, auto, cold/prem/sport/hk/xenon w/o metallic paint for 33,890...invoice is 34,090 in my zip code
So there's a good 600 more to fight to get off that price!
I drive an '02 Honda CRV. My wife has an '03 325i that we bought used in December. It has steptronic, sport, premium, HK, Xenons, leather, heated seats, fold down rear seats, and M68 wheels off a 330i. Winter tires are on the stock sport wheels that came on the car. (I get to drive it on weekends, if I get out of bed first.)
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Steel blue w/black leather
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dealer #1 also told me the upfront cots for the 325CI would be 1772 inc. 1st and last payment or however they do that. then mentioned it would be alot cheaper for the 4 door. do you guys have any idea how much cheaper??
I like the look of the coupe better, but I couldn't see paying an extra $1100 to lease it over 3 years. You'll have to check with your agent, but it is possible the sedan is cheaper to insure as well.
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He wanted me to pay a higher MF on a lease,(0.26, instead of the agreed on 0.22). Needless to say, I walked out. I just wish they hadn't wasted my time in the first place.
I have since read many horror stories about Peter Pan - they are probably the worst dealership in the area (lowest rating on roadfly etc). The manager was unprofessional, uncouth and discourteous. Stay away !
Check out Allison BMW in Mountain View. My brother claims to have had a good experience purchasing there.
just checked carsdirect for my zip code for 325ci
auto/cold/sport/prem/xenons
they says 35,270 and 34,895 for invoice
i'm guessing this includes the incentives for june
is it possible to get this car for 34,000?!
i will be paying in cash, if that helps
We recently ordered a car. We were initially thinking of ED, and met the ED guy @ Allison BMW (BMW of Mountain View) and he was very nice with us. He said it had to be ED invoice + $1400, else it was not worth his time. We finally gave up due to lack/price of tickets. For US delivery, the best offer he gave me was US invoice + $1000. He said if any dealer in the Bay could offer me lower, I should take it, Best of luck!
The best way to get a good deal is to go to carsdirect and go through the process of buying a car. At the end of stage 1, there is an option to "Allow dealers to contact me". This request goes to internet and fleet managers at major dealerships in your area. Also go to edmunds and as for quotes online. The online quotes I got were among the 5 lowest. The costco auto program is also good, but the best offer I got was invoice + $1400.
An actual agent we saw was not ready to come down invoice + $2000. When we tried to tell him a low price of another dealer, he blew his lid and came out with expletives. Another dealer tried to tell me how he was going to use an order allocation from "his" dealership and order a "tailor-made car built to my needs" and so I needed to pay him more!
I finally ordered my car through the fleet manager at Stevens Creek BMW, and it was a very good experience. He is a very kind and well-spoken guy and he offered me the best price, invoice + $500.
Lesson learnt: Internet and fleet managers offer the lowest deals. I also personally prefer email communication to face-to-face real-time deals and this was a good experience for me.
Regards and all the Best!
Thank you.
hpowders
The uncommon option that I was looking for was the fold-down rear seat. Nobody seemed to be ordering them for dealer stock.
If you think sport packages are hard to find, try finding one with the Sequential Manual Gearbox! They are more common now, but when I was looking, they had only just become available on non-M cars.
I dug around, and got them to check on the computer for the car I wanted (330i, Electric Red/natural brown, Premium package, SMG, Fold-down rear seat, Xenons.) They found a car in Arizona. It didn't have fold-down rear seats, and I was damned if I'd hang my custom Holland on a bike rack (apart from the aesthetics).
After I resigned myself to a special order, they checked one more time and discovered that the dealer in Arizona had a coupe. All coupes have fold-down rear seats! I decided I didn't need the two extra doors (Kids are grown up and driving their own cars!). I flew to Phoenix that Saturday, picked the car up and drove it home.
Couldn't be happier!
Don't mess around visiting dealers. Go to http://www.bmwusa.com/ and check their dealer list for dealers in the radius you quoted. You may have to use the zip codes for nearby cities to find dealers there.
Get a pre-approved loan from your bank or credit union. The dealer may offer a better rate, but you won't know unless you have a real loan offer, whether the dealer is pocketing some points.
Do your homework. Go to kbb.com and build your car. Once you know the exact car you want, call the dealers. Ask to speak to the fleet or internet manager. (Ask the receptionist for a name.) When you get him (or her), be courteous. Ask if he or she has a minute (they are often in the middle of a deal).
Once you have their attention, thank them for taking the time, and tell them you ARE GOING TO BUY A CAR! (They don't like to waste time on the merely curious.) Then ask them if they have a car like the one you want.
They will tell you they can get it for you. Thank them for the offer, and say that you are shopping for a deal on a car "on the ground" first. If they have the car, ask them to give you the MSRP and their selling price. They may be reluctant. Reassure them that you will not 'shop' the price (tell another dealer what they quoted and ask them to beat it). If you don't do this they will say, "call me after you've talked to everyone else."
When you have done this with as many dealers as you can stand (It gets old pretty quick), select the deal that appeals to you (low price, friendly phone manner, geographics, whatever), and call the dealer back for an appointment.
If that doesn't work, or you need some help, e-mail me at optionsinmobility@yahoo.com .
GOOD LUCK! And enjoy your new Beemer!
hpowders
finally i took delivery of by 325i. the dealer had asked if i would be interested in the following
1. bmw maintenance program (maintenance covered for 6yr/100,000) costs $1400
2. paint protector for $499
i denied both but they have given me sometime to reconsider. should i get either one of these?
any inputs appreciated... thanx
The extended maintenance program has a list price of $995, if you have an '03 or '04. You can buy it at any time before your original 4yr/50K maintenance plan expires, from any dealer. I would pass on this also, as a lot of things can happen in 4 years. Also, once your car is out of warranty, would you want to do all your maintenance at the dealer and pay dealer prices for repairs vs. a good independent shop? Even if the answer is yes, I would still wait on this.
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Paint protector - Its some kind of teflon coating treatment put on top of the metallic paint.
I didn't know that I had 4yrs to consider the option of buying the extended the maintenance plan. And I have no plans of taking my car to the dealership for my car work outside the warrant period.
Some dealers seem to be using it as an additional profit center on new car sales as well.. Granted, at the list price of $995, they probably make less than $100, but anything over that is just a profit grab. Any dealer can sell it to you, as it is a BMWNA program and is good at any dealer. It is a relatively new program and I guess they could change the sales rules at any time, but as of now, anyone can buy it at any time before original expiration with no increase in price.
I say no to the teflon thing.... You could do it yourself with Zaino and a spare couple of hours for a lot less.
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The price they have quoted me for BMW factory alarm is $599. Is this the true price? thanx in advance for any inputs...
5 Speed
Sport Package
moon roof
Heated seats
alpine white leatherette
1200$ rebate included.Quoted price is 30,995
Dealer said that I would have to order this car because he doesn't have it in stock. And I must
take delivery by June 30 to get the rebate. so then He quotes me a price of 31,200 if I wanted to order it.
Them he comes back and says he has a
325 pi
alpine white
premium pkge
cold weather pkge
sport pkge
bmw assist
leatherette selling price 32,800
Can someone plese tell if thes are good prices
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As the resident experts, I'm checking with you on a deal I'm hoping to sign this Saturday:
330i Imola red perf pkg
Natural brown leather
Xenons
Heated seats
MSRP (w dest) = $42,445
Invoice = $38,845
June incentive -$2,400
Accepted offer by email was for $37.2K + TTL
**I'm pretty excited**
Insurance was surprisingly low at $770 a year, My wife's only beef is the hassle of swapping the sports tires for a $1k set of winter wheels.
And yes, there is NO moonroof, for those of you who wonder - this may be the only ZHP on any lot without one - I'm 6'5" - and prefer the extra headroom and one less thing to break.
If that is the one you want, you better grab it.
Xenons, heated seats and natural brown.. with the ZHP. Sounds really nice.
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If you get it, start looking for a nice used set of 330i stock wheels 17 X 7, or 325i Sport pkg wheels 17 X 8. You can pickup a decent set for about $500-$600 or even a little less. If you get the 17 X 7, you can put on 205/50-17, which should be cheaper.
For the wife: Every mile you put on the winter tires is another mile you get out of the stock set. On a ZHP, they will wear at about the same rate, so the cost there is a wash. When you get rid of the car, you can sell the used wheels for close to what you got them for, so minimal cost there also..
That all has a grain of truth to it.. That is how I explained it to my wife..... Good luck.
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I have a quote of 35K +tax and tags for a 325xi w/Prem Pack, Leather, Cold Package, Metallic Paint and Auto
That comes out to approx $200 over invoice.
Deal or not with the $1200 June marketing rebate?
Salesperson clarified my confusion on the web site price, which doesn't list packages, as car was invoiced PRIOR to 1 Jan $400 price increase.
'04 330i Base $34,800
Imola red ZHP $3,900
Nat Brwn Lthr $1,450
Xenons $700
Cold Wthr ZCW $1000 (vice just heated seats)
Destination $695
MSRP = $42,545
Invoice = $38.9K
My accepted offer $37.2K +TTL
(includes $2400 June incentive)
I was looking at a trip to Germany to do European delivery, but the June incentive made this a push financially.
kyfdx, Good words on the winter tires/wheels. Is the BMW jack sufficient, or should I invest in something better to do tire exchanges?
Anyone have standard/premium '04 330i takeoff wheels? Oh, wait, there's message boards for that, too....
Soon to be ZHP,
Jim
Any 17" wheel from an E46 BMW '01 and newer should work for your car.. For winter, stay away from the staggered setup off a 330i sport. 5-series wheels will not fit.
Congratulations!
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regards,
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