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tccowboy
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Mackabee
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
FYI -This is a response I got from the folks at Scion when I asked about the s/c and the '06 models/colors. "Thank you for contacting Scion. The TRD supercharger option for the Scion tC should be available by
before the end of 2005. At this time there is no information available about the 06 models. They should be release in June/July for the tCs."
The drivetrain is not refined, its not in the same league as the Japanese brands. The back seat suffers from lack of leg room, unlike the tC which has lots of leg room. The stang also lets in lots of road noise. I was very surprised to find so much road noise in an American brand. The light colored interior is easy to dirty.
Overall it was a positive experience. Things I would like improved. The drive train (smoothness). They need to fix the fan issue. You can't turn off the ventilation fan. It will only go to the lowest setting. Ford also needs to address the road noise and color of the light colored interior. Fix these issues and the Mustang will be a very good coupe. Also, stop selling it to the rental companies. It cheapens the vehicle.
So far the tC has nothing to fear from the V6 Mustang. They are two very different vehicles, for very different customers.
I decided to go back to the Scion dealer for a longer drive on a different tC, not the one with the door issue. Unfortunately, the sales rep got the keys to the defective tC. Oh well, we got on a road similar to the one used for the RSX test drive. It had a very quit ride and on one 45 MPH stretch of road I got to 60 MPH. I noticed my speed after looking in my rear view mirror and seeing the other traffic way in the distance. I commented to the sales guy, "Oh s..t, I'm doing 60 MPH. We said, "What! It feels like we're doing 30 MPH". Needless to say, we were both surprised. In short, the tC retest removed the doubt I was having. Even though I test drove a tC with a known hardware issue the car felt solid. My tC deliver date is in early June. Once I purchase it I'll keep my eye out for that door handle flex issue. :surprise:
I too ordered a tC, exactly three weeks ago... the wait time was 3-5 weeks then, we shall see. Thanks for the forewarning on a possible door handle defect, I will keep an eye out for that.
BTW... what color did you opt for?
The deflector really does need to be addressed. It should be an unbreakable material rather than glass. Have not heard anything from Scion yet. Will write them again. Even if it hasn't happened to you - yet - tC owners should begin a campaign to have this fixed, because it will get you sooner or later.
I hold my breath now every time I have that open and I am trying to avoid opening it on the expressway - shouldn't have to do that! Fortunately (or unfortunately) it hasn't been much of an issue yet as the weather here in Michigan has not been condusive to open-top cruising - typical crappy Michigan weather!
Hope this leads to a fix.
Scion doesn't dicount or offer any incentives, that I've heard of.
What will happen in October to unloved Scions? Buying a 2005 so late in the year, without incentives is not fiscally responsible.
DrFill
Toyota can also support the leftovers, maybe a free option, or cheap financing or lease deals?
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Mackabee
Mackabee
On my few highway trips, I have gotten about 30-32, running +/-70.
Yes, the tC doesn't get quite the mileage it could (or should). Blame the gearing, and the curb weight.
Still, 25 overall local driving isn't bad, considering the performance it offers. If you want better, trade it in on a Putt Putt Corolla CE, and maybe you will get 30-32 overall instead.
Just do the math to see if the $5-10/month you save will be worth the trade off!
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Numerous audio upgrades/improvements are mentioned, and the cars are supposed to begin arriving in dealers next week (according to the Car Connection). Wow!
I'm still bummed that they were unable to install my auto dimming mirror in combination with my side curtain airbags..
The tc is a great value and a great driver...plus I want to screw up Toyota's age demographics for the Scion brand.
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Mackabee
I've seen reports of people claiming to get in the low 20's and think they must be driving at full throttle on a 45 degree grade at all times. Maybe I have a freak, but I could not be more pleased with my mileage. Heck, I would have been happy with the sticker 23 MPG after 2 years in a Jeep that got 15.
What gives? I've never seen such a disparity in reported fuel economy on a car. The car mags seemed to have trouble getting the 23 MPG. Based on my experience thus far, if I got 23 I would be looking for a hole in the gas tank.
Okay, my question requires brutal honesty, so fire away for those interested.
I ordered an '05 in late April and received a call yesterday that it will be in early next week. However, I will be on vacation then and I was told they can hold it until I get back. I recently caught wind of the '06 changes and I am starting to have my doubts about the '05. A security deposit was not required, so I have nothing "down" on the car right now.
Here's where I need your honesty... would it be unethical for me to not take delivery on the '05 and have them put in another order for me on the '06? My guilty conscious has my paranoid, but I don't want to lose money on new additions that could add to the resale value down the line, plus depreciation I would be losing on the '05 since there is no "discount" for older models. I know I'm showing up late in the game with these realizations, I was just wondering if you were in my shoes, what would you do?
As a side note, these cars are selling like hotcakes at this dealer... I've never seen a tC sit on their lot more than a couple of days.
Thanks in advance!
keep in mind that there will possibly be a price increase though.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
I just got off the phone with my dealership, they were very understanding and didn't hesitate at all to help me. Since the wait on the '05 silver streak was 5 weeks, this will probably sell as it is delivered.
Now that I've put in a new order, the wait time will be 3-4 more weeks, hopefully it will arrive at the end of June.
I don't mind the $200 price increase. With the modifications and the fact I won't be losing as much in depreciation, I feel this is a better situation for me.
Thanks again, I appreciate your input.
Sales don't need a spike now! Maybe in the fall, when most '06 are released.
DrFill
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Also, over the weekend, I saw a tC in bright red (looked goofy IMO), and also that light tealish-blue. Couldn't get into that one either.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Mackabee
That being said, I will change (probably Pirelli PZero Nero) when these wear out. The Potenzas are donig well enough to keep me from the added expense of early replacement, but I won't buy them when I have the choice. No help on the Yoko's, but I'm interested in what you find out about them.
I nixed the dedicated snow tire idea. Given this type of car and the urban setting I'm in (snow gets cleared rather quickly) another set of tires and wheels just doesn't seem worth the expense.
Also,
Anyone know anything about the color changes? I kinda liked the Indigo, I was looking to get Flint Mica myself, but that blue was pretty sharp. Is the Nautical blue going to be any different really?
Only problem I have had with the roof is some creaking/groaning, but I also have a very early build.
there have been a few posters that had a problem with the wind deflector part breaking will driving on the highway.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Definitely not a road car unless you like to feel every bump in the road and plenty of road noise.
Drives fairly well, but not a screamer off the line. It is a tenny boppers go to school or college kind of car, sporty, but definitely not a real sports car.
Price is right, if they discount the sticker price.
I recently drove a Honda Civic EX SE coupe on a trip and liked it much better, but, hey, different strokes.... Both good cars I am sure.
The radio cover? I'm a little tired of the band-wagon of whiners crying about this. Yes, it could be a little more substantial but I find it no more "cheap" than some plastic parts in some cars costing twice the price. While mine is open most all of the time, I have not experienced any problems when I do use it. My only beef is that if there is a door over the radio, there should be controls on the wheel. Something that has apparently been addressed on the '06. Certainly no need to remove it.
I agree that this is a "sporty" car and not a true 'sports' car - but then again it isn't meant to be one - either is anything else in its class, which is what it should be compared to.
"Teeny bopper", "College kid" car? In todays broad markets I think it unfair to generalize any car like that. My daughter is a 'teeny bopper - college kid' that drives a Silverado. I am a 52 yr old professional that drives the tC. So much for that thoery.
The tC is thousands less than comparably equipped cars in its class. People that 'guesstimate' the cost of my car are consistantly in the low & mid 20's (it cost 17k). Hey, I'd love to see it offered at below sticker too, but it is undoubtedly the best value in its class - even at sticker.
None of the 160 hp cars in this class are screamers off the line. I am somewhat agressive and have yet to find a situation where the car felt underpowered when I asked for or needed some umph. Again, these cars aren't designed for the track, but do offer more than adequate power and handling for some fun.
As you say, to each his own. I drove them all while shopping and couldn't top the tC for its overall characteristics and value. And while styling is certainly subjective, I turn a lot more heads than any Civic does.
Happy motoring.