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For the deal I got it almost could be a ride!!
I've had almost the same problem with my F150 Supercrew and it's CD Player heating the CDs. When ejected they are extermely hot to the touch. Every once and a while I have problems playing CDs and I am starting to think that it is related to the heat ... I have yet to have the unit generate the error message you state, but I have not played for extended periods of time - next long road trip I will.
Regards ...
Engine:
The screw has the 5.4L, my '98 GMC had the 5.7L. The 5.4 seems to do the job but at times sounds like it's struggling (gasping sounds). I really liked the 350 in the GMC, it seemed to have power when I needed it, sounded great and felt like it would last forever. I'd have to give the advantage here to GMC.
Interior:
The screw has leather seats while the GMC had cloth so of course I like the leather better but that's comparing apples to oranges. I think the layout of the dash goes to the screw. Of course the rear seating area goes to the screw, no contest. As does the door arrangement. Four doors that open "normal" are much better then a "hidden" 3rd door. The advantage goes to the screw.
Ride/handling:
The GMC rode nice, it seemed to compare to many cars. But the screw rides even better. It just seems to ride more comfortable and also seems to be more responsive on in changing lanes and corners. It is also a little quieter on the highway (even though I'd still like a little less wind noise). Advantage screw.
4x4:
The GMC had part time 4x4 which changed by a lever on the floor. I did use it off road and in the snow. I never got stuck and once even pulled a 150 out of mud (to be fair, I would have been stuck if I'd been in the same exact location). I have not used the screw off road yet but have used it in the snow. It operates by a switch on the dash. Very easy to use and does not make nearly as much noise as the GMC when in operation. However, I would have liked a all wheel drive option on top of the part time. Advantage screw.
Overall quality:
This is tough because I have not owned the screw for a long time. The GMC had no major problems. It did have a leak near the 3rd door that I found before the trade in. It also had a load squeaking noise from the spare tire that started when I lowered and raised the spare. Something just didn't go right "together" anymore and I could seem to fix it. The screw does have a problem that I'm going to take it in for, it sometimes makes a thumping sound that I can feel when I first start moving in it. Doesn't happen all the time and only after I've parked it for awhile (could be parking brake related). No advantage to either make.
Misc:
The brakes are much better on the screw. After 20K on the GMC I needed new front pads. The screw just seems to stop much better due to the 4 disk brakes. The screw is much taller and is longer then the GMC. I hit the wall in the garage the first time I put it in there. I do like the taller stance (who doesn't when driving a truck). Gas mileage was truck like for both vehicles, but I do seem to be stopping at the gas station more in the screw. Hopefully that changes after the engine breaks in. The auto lights on the screw are nice as are the adjustable floor pedals. Advantage screw.
Overall I like the screw better but that's not to say I didn't like the GMC. I loved it. In fact I would have bought another one if they'd have a full size cab with 4 doors. I'd like the screw even more if I could just put the 350 in it. Hopefully the 5.4 will get better as it breaks in.
I went with the 2000 GMC Extended Cab Z71. So far no problems with the truck but I didn't even consider the Screw and now I wish I would have.
I think two weeks after purchase I found out I had a baby on the way and Screw would have been a better fit because we always cart the two dogs with us.
I looked at the SUV route but I really don't want to give up at least some bedspace. Oh well, maybe next time.
Mbrim's comparison, while well thought out, really isn't valid because the new Silverado's are nearly a totally different truck than the 98's. They may look similiar but thats where the similiarity stops. For example, the single third door isn't a valid complaint. All new Chevy extended cabs have 4 doors as do all Ford ext. cabs.
In regards to quality, I believe they are pretty close. Most of the posts you see about Chevy problems are due to the '99 and '00 models. While Chevy needs to do a better job of getting it right the first time, they've fixed all the major problems for the '01 model. The '01 model is definetly a good quality truck and Consumer Reports bears this out.
I compared the two and really couldn't justify the extra $$$ for the few more inches of rear seat space. I'm also fan of the Chevy powertrains. The Chevy 5.3l felt more powerfull and had much smoother shifts than the Ford 5.4l. I do have to admit that the Ford definetly has more modern styling.
Before my current Silverado, I drove a Ram and before that a Ford so I'm really unbiased when it comes to pickup shopping. My only advise is just to get out there and drive both trucks looking at whats important to you, and then decide on one or the other.
you mentioned a couple things about your s-crew that i've also noticed in mine. occasionally i notice a slight lurching/thumping when taking off from a complete stop. almost reminds me of a bad u-joint. is this what you are talking about?
also, you mentioned the gasping sounds. seems that the intake plumbing on the 5.4l produces these types of noises, especially when the engine is lugging at highway speeds. i've noticed the same noise on my truck. almost makes it sound like there is a leak somewhere in the air intake system.
The thumping sounds I was referring to may be different to what you have. Mine occur when I've started my screw after it has sat for a while (for at least 30 minutes or so). Then when I leave I hear (and feel) the noise. The vibrations/noise seems to come from the rear and may happen about five times before it stops. The funny thing is it has not happened since I posted the original message.
If anyone has any experience that they can share I would certainly appreciate it.
Thanks,
Texas4x4
THANKS,
TEXAS4X4
My question is this: Anybody Screw owners out there at 6'-5" own one of these trucks. Did your seats break in allowing the top of your back to settle in.
you apparently are comparing a 2wd s-crew to a 4wd supercab. there aren't any 4x4 s-crews with the 5.4l v/8 and 3.55 rear end that are rated at 19 on the highway.
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-Cliff
I've seen so many different answers from various dealers. Best to check with whomever you will be buying from cause even if the dealer is wrong, you don't need to pull teeth everytime you require warranty work.
I've added a catback, headers, cold air intake, aftermarket plugs and wires, performance mass airflow sensor, larger tires, and hypertech programming. To this date, my service manager has not once brought up the subject of the engine, transmission, or anything else not being covered under factory warranty. Where he does draw the line is if I added a supercharger or turbocharger as they consider "forced induction" to place additional strain on the engine parts. Funny though, some dealers across the nation install SC's as a dealer option with the warranty being provided by the dealer and not GM, Ford, or Dodge.
mtnmike.....are you out there? If I remember correctly from previous posts, you found a dealer in the Denver area that got you your truck for invoice. I'm in the Springs area and plan to solicit all the dealers in the area.
I plan on getting the 5.4l 4x4 with the tow group and off road pkgs. I guess I'm still unclear as to whether the Gen.III captains chairs are better than the bench with regards to the armrests. Also, has anyone gotten the rear entertainment (video) system? Have two little ones that would enjoy it on long trips. Just want to know if it is worth the extra $$ or should I wait for an after market item such as a dvd system?
Thanks again to everyone for all the good info.
The Screws with the adjustable head rests front and rear are the "ewer" 2001's. The "alder" models have adjustable head rests only in front and none in back. Also, you'll note that the 'newer" 2001's do have a spiffier interior cloth. Don't settle for the older..when you put folks in the back seat, they'll be grateful you've got the head rests.. keeps their heads off the rear window.
There should not be a price difference. I ordered my Screw thinking I'd not get rear head rests and when it came in the dealer was as surprised as I was when we saw the rear head rests. Dealers did not get a notice about the changes.. which is typical for Ford.
Good luck.. you're gonna love it when you get it!!
When I ordered mine, the dealer stated six to eight weeks for delivery. I must have hit it right because I had mine exactly six weeks from the date of my dealer submitted order!! I did stay in touch with the salesman via e-mail and phone..not being a pest, just "checking in". He was able to give me "build dates" and " expected delivery" dates and then a "confirmed delivery date".
Worked well for me and I wish you the same. I truly enjoy driving this vehicle more than any other I've ever owned.
And if so, when?
I'm under the impression that the super crew 2001 actually came out mid 2000 rather than late August early September 2000.. I'm evaluating purchasing a super crew, however, I'm not sure what impact will the fact that the super crew 2001 came out so early when it comes to re-sale value. I'm wondering if it would be best to wait for the 2002, taking into consideration when they will actually come out s. any special promotional financing going on now, availability, etc... (not to mention the fact that I already have the 'bug' to buy one.......)
Any input about this topic is appreciated.