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Does anyone know any good dealers in the Minneapolis area?
I think I'll plan on emailing a number of the dealers in my area and try to work them against each other. I've got a co-worker that did this and got $9400 off her jeep rubicon, lifetime oil changes and car washes, and a few freebie accessories.
p.s. I wanted to spend about 15k less than what I expect to, so that I can still afford a Chrysler 300c in a year.... but this might put the kai-bosch on that.
You should be able to get that kind of price anywhere in the country. Most dealers will clear off their 2004 inventory for close to invoice prices. I thoguh there was a $1500-2000 rebate from VW on the T Regs. The base T regs are just under 36K. But you may have a hard time finding just the base model and they may be loaded up with options.
I was just quoted $32.5K for a base Touareg (no extra options). This is about $800 less than the Carsdirect price (for the Chicago area) and ~$1000 less than invoice.
Can anyone comment on whether this price is attractive to other quotes you've seen / received for a base V6?
Thank you!
I bought it at Boston Volkswagon in Brighton, Ma. the sales manager was great.This is what i got, V8 with bi-xenon, winter pkg.and sound system I. Msrp. $45,255.00 i paid $38,072.00 and this is with the $2,000 rebate. It was a great buying experience.GREAT CAR
Does anyone have an opinion about the lease special on the vw.com site for the V6 T-Reg? Is it a fair deal for a lease? Here are the specifics of the offer...thanks.
2004 Touareg V6
$399*/month
42-month lease
$3,874.00 due at signing
(plus license, tax and dealer fees)
$4,099.00 due at signing for
New York State residents.
Includes difference in acquisition fee.
(plus tax, license, options and dealer fees)
Or, see your local VW dealer for one of the many other great lease deals available.
*US cars only. $399 first month's payment, $2,500 down payment, and $400 refundable security deposit and $575 acquisition fee due at lease inception. Monthly payments total $16,758.00. MSRP of $36,665 for a 2004 Touareg V6 with 6-speed automatic Tiptronic transmission. Closed-end lease offered to highest qualified customers by Volkswagen Credit through participating dealers. Supplies limited. Offer ends August 31, 2004. Requires dealer contribution of $1,400, which could affect final negotiated transaction. Lessee responsible for insurance. At lease end lessees responsible for $0.15/mile over 42,000 miles for damage and excessive wear. Additional charges may apply at lease end. Purchase option at lease end for $17,599. Dealer sets actual prices. See your Volkswagen dealer for details.
Lets assume that you are getting this car at invoice of $33,665. The interest rate you will be paying over 42 months is about 3.75% when you should be looking at an interest rate close to 1.75%.
VW has to get their act together if they intend to even remotely compete against the likes of Mercedes or BMW in shopping experience. You do not push a Touareg like you push a used Golf. You are not selling to people whose overriding concern is "how good" the monthly payment looks. It insulted our intelligence, wasted our time, and in the end confirmed my wife's snobbish suspicion that VW as a brand represents a step down from her current ownership experience.
Alas, the Touareg was not to be, and thus does not figure in our plans. It is a wonderful car. But seems to be sold in the entirely wrong dealership by salespeople unqualified in the art of selling a more upscale car.
I just stuck to my guns and got the invoice deal from the close dealer on the last day of the month. Plan on 4 to 6 hours of nose hair pulling, double teaming, triple teaming, F&I, etc before you drive home. I knew for a fact that the car I wanted had been on his lot for at least 4 months. It's too bad there had to be so much chicken dung spread around. I dont see why we couldnt have come to a deal in about 10 minutes, wrapped up the paperwork and F&I in another 30 minutes and out the door. They just dont realize there are a lot of people out there that are operating businesses that are at least as big as theirs and wouldnt dream of putting their customer through all that crap.
Oh, and by the way, when you take it in for the inevitable issues, they will treat you like you are the first one with the problem, they've never heard of it, or you're crazy. Things change when you expose them to a list of Technical Service Bulletins for the car, which of course they're familiar with. It's amazing the games they try.
Why did I buy the car? I love it. There is nothing else like it. I knew I was getting a first year car and so far, the pain has been worth the gain.
They had the car I wanted. I told them a price that was reasonable but not the lowest I've scene here. They said "no problem, we can do it for that". And that was it. Deal done.
Service has been incredible. Just got back from my 10,000 mile service. When I arrived, they offered a loaner. When I said I could wait, they put a rush on the work. They said it would take three hours and in 2 hours and 59 minutes they pulled up with my Touareg, washed. I waited in their leather chairs in the waiting area watching the Olympics. I left with a rose as a thank you for my business. Incredible.
I'm sure it is frustrating for the good VW dealerships to see posts about how bad all VW dealers are. Some are bad, others are fantastic. Shop the service center more than the few bucks you may save on the purchase.
Love my Touareg.
Thanks,
To Touareg: If you are buying a Honda, shop for the absolute lowest price. If you are buying a Touareg, shop the service center. Buy from the best one.
they offered me a loaner for service.I also got great deal over $7,000 off msrp. for a v8.
It,s a great car
On the other hand, the RX330 is the closest thing to a minivan masquerading as an SUV as I've ever seen. We are seriously considering the GX470, which has decent capabilities, as well as the Touareg, XC90, etc. IMO, even the Honda Pilot is a more "serious" SUV than the RX330. The few RX330's in our immediate neighborhood sat parked during the 6"+ snowfalls we got in DC the last 1-2 years. But if it works for you, go for it.
But from reading other dealer stories around Town Hall, it doesn't sound like there are a lot of great dealers (of any make) around DC.
Steve, Host
From what others are posting, that seems like a reasonable deal.
Just out of curiosity, are you in the Chicago area? (I think I may have gotten a quote on the exact same car :-)
Disagree with statements about the poor resale value of VW in general. In fact the opposite is documented. In the wagon category, the Jetta TDI has the highest resale. In the SUV category, The Porsche Cayenne has the highest return - and we all know the T-reg is a first cousin to the Cayenne.
Incentives and rebates
Steve, Host
As far as resale, I'm not too worried. Overall, the truck is of very high quality and a treat to drive on any surface. What's a few thousand dollars if you are driving the car you really wanted? There is a price for driving something that does not appeal to the masses. I am not interested in an RX330. When it came out this winter, there were at least 6 in my immediate neighborhood within the month. They are perfect for people that are not car enthusiasts. Consumer Reports is for those people. I personally think they are a chicken doo doo organization. Look at their ganging up on Isuzu and Suzuki, but leaving Ford, GM and Chrysler alone on SUV rollovers. I don't believe there's any substantial difference in rollover propensity for any of those SUV's, circa 1995. I've driven them all and lived with many of them.
Are you nuts? There is not a car made today that does not have enough acceleration! Just another bogus upgrade to empty your wallet. In this day and age the V8 should not even be available. BTW all suvs should have diesels available with a tax rebate.
Umm, I didn't write the article, Consumer Reports did - as I clearly stated.
"There is not a car made today that does not have enough acceleration!"
First off the T-reg is not a CAR, it is a 3 ton SUV. With what criteria is the rest of your statement based on? Your own?
" In this day and age the V8 should not even be available." Maybe on your planet choices are not allowed, on this one we can actually choose what suits are needs the best! Amazing, huh?.
"Just another bogus upgrade to empty your wallet" Another of your value judgments. This is a T-reg forum. If your worried about your wallet and tax rebates, you're in the wrong forum.
BW
im looking to buy a v8, wondering if anyone has been able to get one for 3500 below invoice?
thanks
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I spent way more on my Touareg (V6) than I would have on the 4runner, with no regets. I decided against the BMW's mainly because I do a little 4wheeling in the mountains, and sand dunes at the lake, and they are not really appropriate for off road stuff. If you are deciding between these two, I assume you need off-road too. I think you have the two best ones out there. Don't forget a Chevy Tahoe or Suburban. You get a lot of truck for not much money.
I guess this only confirms my suspicions about car salesmen with ponytails. Just curious to know what dealership in Boston accomodated you so well.
i dont think thats a great deal...i think u can get 3500 under invoice on a brand new v8...