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Are you treferring to CPO ( certified pre-owned) - they explain it costs them 2K to certify...
Anyway - as you saw my email they said it was a mistake and it is 23,500 for CPO not including taxes... ( but they give 0.9% financing)
Michael
In San Diego where I am, there is over 100 used X3s to choose from within a 50 mile radius. That favors the buyer. Not sure where your location is, but something to factor.
To give you can idea, I'm shopping between a couple of X7 models and negotiations are right around $24k. They have sport, premium, xenon, and bluetooth.
Again, I'd keep shopping if I were you unless you love your car and like the convenience of buying it outright.
2007 X3 Auto
20,900 Miles
Sports
Premium
Xenon
Heated Seats
Gray Poplar Wood Trim
Park Distance Control
Navigation
Premium Audio
Looks like a good deal to me... I'm not fond of PDC, though..
What color combo?
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Silver Gray Metallic / Gray leather with the dark wood trim. Looks sharp. My wife and I will be sharing since I sometimes need a bigger car for work related trips.
They had a black on black that looked really sharp, but no options other than sport and xenon.
Next is to find me a loaded 2006 330ci with a MANUAL transmission. They are few and far between.
I wish I could find a way to turn the PDC off, but no luck... It is useful for parallel parking, but that is about a once per week occurrence... Would have much rather had the Sport Activity pkg, or the full cold WX pkg, than that... but, it's hard to be choosy when buying used..
Concentrate on Performance Pkg 330Ci... most of them are manual, I think..
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I'm scouring the ads daily for a 330ci. There just aren't many to go around. Thanks for the tip.
I have purchased back my X3 2006 after the 3 year lease:
2006 White X3 premium leather, privacy glass, heated front seats, otherwise standard
29,000 miles
Residual value $25,700
Purchased at BMW Manhattan for 23,500 with 0.9% financing
as a CPO (with extended warranty)
At BMW Brooklyn I was quoted 29,000.
Michael
It has nothing to do with the Sport Package..
Hope that helps!
kyfdx
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For 09 they are all XDrive 30i, but it is the same car as the 3.0si.
There was no pressure whatsoever to lease, and my wife's cars average about 35,000 miles per year (mine are at about 50,000) leasing just isn't an option.
We also looked at the RX350, nice car, but she preferred the feel of the X3.
I need your help again. I am looking for 2007 X3 and have a few 'preliminary quotes' from local dealers here in the Bay Area.
I also have a quote from a VW dealer -- the car is a lease return which the VW dealer says bought from BMW in an auction.
And finally, I have a quote from a self-described 'small, independent used car dealer'.
Note: All cars in question (i.e. BMW dealer CPOs, VW, and indie. dealer) advertised on Craigslist.
Here is my issue. Since I just started the process the local BMW dealer quotes are on the higher sides as compared to the those from independent used car dealer and the VW dealer.
Questions: What are the pros and cons of buying a CPO from a BMW dealer? Under what scenario would a deal from VW dealer or independent used car dealer make sense? Is it safe do buy a BMW from a non-BMW dealer?
I have never bought a CPO before and I am unable to assign a value to it. This forum helped me with my previous new car purchases: a new 2004 X3 and again last July for a '08 Acura TL. (Thanks for all your help!)
KYFDX and others: Looking forward to your insights and replies.
Best,
newBmr
However, if you take it, you won't be turning it in, and you won't be able to collect on your damage waiver, or get the bumpers painted on their dime..
I'd wait for them to call back.. Tell them you aren't sure you want it for $25K... maybe, they'll up their offer.
regards,
kyfdx
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I purchased a 2007 Bentley Continental GT from Jack Price at Ferman Wholesale/BMW (deal 47369 on feb 27 09) for 94,799.95, which was paid through wire transfer. I found Jack through eBay and contacted him directly to negotiate the price. I was told that the car was immaculate and that they have a wholesale guarantee that if the car is not as describe they would void the sale. I did a car fax and auto check on the car. I was also sent info from Jack on how the car was already pre-inspected.
http://ferman-bmw.ebizautos.com/detail-2007-bentley-continental_gt-3404921.html
I was told that we would agree on the price, send a deposit, make payment and then I would bid on eBay at the agreed price. I sent the deposit & full payment by wire transfer. I told jack that I would still do a full Bentley dealer pre-purchase inspection when the car arrived. Jack reassured me that the car is perfect. The car arrived a week later and upon receipt I noticed that the engine was making weird sounds. In addition, the car had dents and scratches that were should not have been there given the descriptions from Jack. I contacted him right away to mention these issues. Jack told me that they would pay to have the scratches and dents removed. He was surprised to see the damage when the car left.
I sent the car to Bentley to have the pre-purchase inspection. The car had significant damage to it. They found that the undercarriage was heavily damaged through some sort of impact and had rusted. The damage even hit the brake line and exposed the line. They also found that the brake rotors & pads were heavily scored and needed replacing. They also found that underneath the rear of the car there was two holes cut out to attach a towing or bike rack mechanism. They also found that the windshield had a rock chip and other chips & scratches on the car. The car also had multiple spots where the paint's clear coat was peeling. They mentioned that the front bumper was removed ad then replace with non-standard Bentley screws & nuts, which are now rusted. The wheels of the car are worn on the inside edge to where they should be replaced. Overall, they said that the damage would cost about $9-10k to repair.
I contacted Jack to request that they void the sale. I am not interested in a car with so many issues / stories given the price that I had paid for the car and how it was described to me. Jack turned me over to Jeff Stern, his manager. Jeff told me that returning the car is not an option. I showed Jeff the ebay auction and the link to the ferman site to show him the guarantee. He later told me that we did’t do the deal through ebay so it would not apply to me. Up until this point both Jack and myself were conducting the deal for the point of ebay. This was the first that I had heard of this and told that the auction was closed. I told Jeff that the auction and the ferman site listed above is how the deal was presented to me and thus should apply to me. I spoke with Jack who then told me that even if the guarantee applied, he would just take the negative feedback from ebay and not void the sale.
Jeff told me that I only have 3 options: 1. Use the 500 towards the car repair, 2. Pay for the repairs myself or 3. Sue them. I was appalled and shocked that he said this to me. This is no way to do business.
Jeff suggested that we work with a friend of his who works for a dealership Los Angeles to do the repairs at cost on the car. However, they would need the car for a few days and that I should drive it to them. Jim needs the car for a few days so I shipped them the car and told Jeff that it would be unreasonable to drive from where I live in Berkeley, Ca. I was quoted the cost of the repairs to be $2,892.50 including the cost of shipping. The repairs exclude replacing the wheels or the brake rotors & pads. Jeff has told me that he is only authorized to contribute $500.
Their contribution to the repairs of the car is not acceptable and an insult me. I was lied to and the car was misrepresented. I have been told that Ferman's GM, Peter Gulotta is angry and wont contribute more to the repairs because had a higher offer for the car after I sent the deposit.
Buyers Beware! For the amount I paid, I shouldn't have to have any of these issues. If they would do this on an expensive used car, I can't imagine what they would do to other buyers of used or new cars. Their verbal promises mean nothing and their written promises mean nothing. I have put everything I have into this car or otherwise I would sue them.
Thanks
Has anyone obtained this? Going by what I am reading (about getting best price on a new vehicle), should I be aiming for "Invoice - $4000" as the true dealer cost?
Many thanks,
Andy V
http://www.cars.com/go/advice/financing/calc/incentivesCalc.jsp
Along the same lines, I would stay away from less known banks/finance companies any dealership may try to steer me into. All cars where I have took dealers' finace options were with the car manufacturers - example: Lexus/Toyota Financial.
AV
Good luck.
https://www.penfed.org/productsAndRates/loans/vehicleLoans/autoLoans.asp
My 39 month lease is coming due Aug 1st on my 06 x3 with premium, cold, xenon lights options. I will be about 4,500 miles above my mileage limit of 32,500 (total of about 37K or less). The vehicle has a few minor scratches etc. which I suspect they will ding me for, and my tires will be borderline as well. I have pre-inspection scheduled in two weeks to see if/what I am up against on minor damage repairs.
I got the BMWFS call last week and they were surprisingly eager to offer me a $5k discount of the residual price of 28,300 (offered at $23,300) plus $1k off the "normally priced" $2,900 extended warranty through 6 yrs/100k miles. They also offered financing at a mediocre sounding 6.4%.
We like the car -- had no real issues with it and it fits our lifestyle well. If we buy it, we avoid mileage and any damage costs, and get back our $400 deposit. So, I am pondering my options. The relative ease by which they offered the $5k residual price discount in our first convo suggests they may be willing to do a bit more e.g. package 0.9% interest rate and/or warranty etc.
I would love to hear from anyone who has negotiated more favorable lease-end purchase terms than what BMWFS offered initially. Also, is the BMWFS 100k warranty typically worth it? Thanks in advance!
They came back the next day and offered $23,110 and that will include them making it a certified pre owner vehicle so it will have they extended warranty (100,000k miles) built in and I qualify for the special interest rates which range from (.9 to 3.9) based on the term of the loan. Only catch is I may need to buy need tires to qualify if they dont pass.
I should add they forgave the last month on my lease.
Maryland or in southern PA? I remember reading about 4K incentive to the dealers back in May. Is that still available?
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arivand
Unfortunate timing for those coming out of leases.. not just the '06 models, but cheap 24 month leases on '07s are coming due, as well...
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A pretty good discussion about end of lease options on an X3 starts here.
The gist of it is: Check with your dealer... they may make you a better deal than BMWFS. (Though, be warned... if your dealer buys the car and re-sells it to you, you will be liable for end-of-lease charges).
regards,
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Replaced defective radio
Replaced steering wheel (possibly related to defective radio?)
Replaced defective muffler.
Dealer's sticker asking price is $32,990.
Clearly, they're going to have to negotiate. I'm not terribly concerned about the stuff that was fixed because she'll still have about two years left on the original warranty and then will go into the CPO for the remaining two years.
Any thoughts would be very much appreciated! Her oldest brother (me) has owned a 2002 530i and a 2001 740i, and we're almost there in converting her but she's got to have the right deal.
Thanks!
Offered at 27.9k.
Their initial offer was to take off about 300 $.
Considering what I have read so far I would think they should be able to get below 25k. What is a fair price for the car?
Just for giggles, asked about selling it back to the dealership after 1 month and <500 miles on it.
Loss: 20% of purchase price.
Not so much in the giggle department. :lemon:
We are so delighted with the build quality that when I trade in my Mercedes early next year I'm going to look for a nice CPO 2007 or 2008 X3 for myself.
Of course my great experience doesn't make the X3 a troublesome car line any more than your experience makes it a troubled one.
The fact is the X3 uses largely the same parts as the previous-generation 3-series, a well-liked and reliable car if ever there was one, and the engines and transmissions from the current 3-series, also a rather highly-regarded car. There is nothing about the X3 that makes good engines and transmissions bad.
Face it, you got a bad one. Maybe your car was put together on the Monday morning after Oktoberfest, but it is hardly representative to the entire line.
Exactly!
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-2021 Sahara 4xe-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Did I ever say it was? I am talking about my car and my personal experiences.
I am trying to figure out what is wrong with my car and how to fix it. Since my car will eventually be up for resale as well, I do not have a vested interest in outlining its problems either. However, the situation is bad enough that I am willing to take the risk of poor resale in order to figure out what the heck is wrong with it.
So far, I have found (through talking about my car) that it might have the well-known transmission problem causing rocking, it might have a cv joint problem causing bucking from the front bumper, it might have asthma or allergies....I do not know. I am currently trying to figure out if there is something amiss in the seat as I feel the side to side swaying behind the driver's seat after going over minor imperfections in the road.
Who knows what I will find today? The hunt continues until I figure out what it is.
Does anyone know when it makes sense to sell a brand new 2009 X3 AT in favor of a different car from a different manufacturer?
Right now, to sell it back to the dealership costs about 20% of the purchase price. That means that driving this :lemon: :lemon: :lemon: :lemon: :lemon: around for 1 month cost 20% of the purchase price. It also means providing more profit to the dealer and BMW which just adds insult to injury even though I do not blame the dealer.
Caveat BMW.
I suspect that driving it around for 6 months, unless I am putting more than 1500 miles on it in a month i.e. significantly more than average, doesn't cost much more than 20% of the purchase price. Has anyone actually done this with a
BMW or similar car?
I'm just looking for options. I don't know yet if this qualifies for lemon lawing although it still may since it appears to be picking up new ticks.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
This HOJ may head back to the dealership yet again this week as the cold weather apparently exacerbates the well known problem with the AT. Unbelievably, things could actually get worse with this HOJ.
I will say that that along with others who have been saddled with BMW JUNK, I am happy to relate my personal experiences with as many people as I can. I could have paid 1/3rd of the price and not had anywhere near this kind of headache.
BMW is not a premium brand, it is just a car company selling over priced, under performing cars. And, no, I do not think BMW cares one iota about disgruntled customers. Note the huge number of transmission problems in a variety of BMW models from earlier this decade at noreverse.org. There, you can read a litany of complaints about new transmissions costing thousands of dollars to replace because one day the BMW simply refused to go into Reverse,
You can also go to the forums on the BMW X3 Automatic Transmission problems. There are also a litany of complaints spanning three years about this same set of problems.
What a nightmare.
$38000 OTD
is this a good deal?
OUCH.
Have you driven it yet? It isn't a good deal if it has the AT and ride issues which it should. Have you looked at a less well-endowed X5 instead?
I would really drive it over varied roads at various speeds and up and down hills to see how comfortable (or uncomfortable) it is. Does it jerk back and forth when accelerating? Does it slow down hard when coasting to a stop? Does it hesitate when accelerating from a stop? Does it bounce around on less than perfect roads?
All I can say is OUCH. 25% over 11,000 miles?