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The third alternative, besides parking alone or driving a Saturn, is live with dings. It's transportation. They run fine with dings.
Here in Canada, it "retails" Cdn$100 for the 1st ding, and C$50 for subsequent dings. As long as your paint is not chipped, it can be repaired in ~2 hrs.
Here is a Cdn site that explains it with some sample videos: http://www.autocosmetic.com/retail-media.asp
You can also google "Paintless Dent Removal" for service near you.
My friend knows a freelancer who repairs it for C$50 each and will come to your home to do it while-you-wait.
I've never had a problems parking anywhere after that.
The finance guy offered to do that for me when I picked up my new Camry a year ago.
Mackabee
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Mackabee
True. You can also get killed while wearing a car seat belt. Will that cause you to say seat belts are useless? I don't think so.
Yep, side molding will not protect against all, maybe even most, dings (anymore than seat belts provide perfect protection in crashes). But they protect against some dings, and that's a step in the right direction for some of us. I'd rather have fewer door dings than more door dings, but the choice is yours.
The ride in the SE was also very jittery, no doubt because of the stiffer suspension. But, even the smallest ripples in an otherwise good road surface was clearly transferred to the interior of the car. The XLE was a MUCH soother ride.
I had my heart set on a new black SE V6 with charcoal leather. Now I'm not too sure. My current 01 TL is quieter and smoother than the new Camry.
Just as an aside - I drove a Subaru Legacy 2.5GT Limited - every bit as quiet as the Camry. The Subie is a bit smaller though and it seemed cheaper inside.
I find the front end of the 06 Accords to be ugly. What to do next????
As for noise, it is quieter than my Volvo, and I felt it was right there with the 2006 TL that I test drove. The numbers don't matter, because it is subjective opinion that sells cars.
What difference does it make if you just don't have dings along the the one or 2 inch strip where the molding is when the car is still riddled with dings above the molding?
If you choose not to make the effort to park away from other cars and walk an extra minute to your car at the end of the parking lot, at the end of 5 years you have 8 dings with the molding vs 10 dings without it.
Maybe you could put 3 or 4 different moldings on the car at various heights and that would then stop most dings.
It's not that the Camrys were so noisy, but I expected them to be much quieter than my current car. I found the SE to be significantly more jittery than my car. I like the car so much though - I can't cross it off the list yet. :confuse:
Where are all the 5 speed Manual Camrys currently being built? I am looking to purchase one, but I want it to be built in Japan, not in Kentucky.
Did you just try the SE? What about the LE/XLE V-6?
My local dealerships are now full of 2007s - each store has over 30+ units in stock. I wonder if they are dealing though. One manager told me that in May they'll have better discounts off of MSRP.
~alpha
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I drove the XLE right after the SE. (both V6) The ride was MUCH smoother in the XLE. The road noise was less, but there was not a significant difference. There are more nice gadgets in the XLE - lighted steering wheel controls - automatic climate control - rear seat air/heat vents.
The dealer I went to, was at 500 over invoice. NOT alot of Camrys on the lot. Maybe 5 all together.
Must say, the guys at the dealership were nice to deal with, and talk too. No pressure, which is always a good thing, and a plus for them.
Another dealership also has a healthy amount. However, they always put the LEs on the lots without the wheel covers. You would think that they would put the covers on. This dealership has the rudest personnel also.
All details at http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/recalls/recallsearch.cfm
using # 06V096000 as corkscrew provided. This recall affects 133 cars total, only 1 of which is a 2007 Camry (the rest are other model years or are Lexus). The affected VINS are listed. The one affected 2007 Camry is in the Denver region. Free loaner car provided if needed while awaiting parts.
As for my golden years, I am 42yo. I do not know if that qualifies me as golden, but thanks anyway.
bob
drive it along with the Camry. I've had such great luck with Toyota that it would be hard to buy anything else, but I think it would be short sighted not to look at everything out there.
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Mackabee
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Mackabee
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I could see how a large person (not saying you're overweight) might think the side bolsters are a little aggressive.
I really wanted to buy a Toyota but their seats are pathetic. They make their bottom cushions for people about 5' tall...hits me about mid-thigh.
The BMW was an interesting case - an awesome blend of road gripping, atheleticisim, yet a very compliant ride. I suppose this is why car makers use the 3 series as their handling yard stick, against which their own car must measure.
Having owned several 'sporty' cars, especially the 325i, I'm not in agreement in the thinking that a 'sporty' ride has to be a shaky, jittery experience every time a bump is hit.
Then again - I could be wrong.
You mention no complaints with your Hondas. What do you think will happen with a Buick?
is the brake pedal creates too loud a noise when the
pedal is released quickly. I looked under the dash
and it looks like a poor design; the brake pedal arm
has a plastic button insert that meets the plastic
housing of the brake light switch. I think Toyota needs
to install a rubber stop to eliminate the unnecessary
noise. The Toyota may have quiet doors when they are
closed but it certain does not have a quiet brake pedal
when it is released quickly. P
Can this welcome message on the stereo be changed some how?
Thanks for replies!
Congrats on your new car. It's not shallow at all to care what your car looks like, especially on the inside where you will be spending alot of time. I did test drive the Accord this weekend and it was nice. Thanks for your info. The Accord is still on the list.
I laughed when I read; "All I can think of was the smug salesman telling me that toyota doesn't have to offer incentives,since the camry sells itself.", because that is exactly the same thing the salesman told us.
closed but it certain does not have a quiet brake pedal
when it is released quickly
This brings to mind the following:
Some of you may be old enough to remember (as I AM, unfortunately) the Toyotas and DATSUNS (now called Nissan) of the mid-to-late 1960s...Datsun 510 (now that was quite a car in it's day!) Toyota Corolla and Corona (now evolved into the Camry!) Their turn signals made a CA-CHUNK!----click, click---click,click---click, click sound everytime you activated the left or right turn signal, and the brake light switch made a loud CLICK! everytime you stepped on, or released, the brake pedal. These sounds were heard over the much higher ambient noise level of the cars of those days.
The Japanese suppliers for those parts eventually found a way to quiet those sounds down...I bet they will for your brake pedal now...or maybe your's needs some lube or a replacement switch? have you driven any other 07s to see if they make the same sound?