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I enjoyed reading your posting. Just for the sake of discussion let's assume that there are only 35 complaints at NHTSA about the trans issue. If this group is VERY VOCAL on this and other boards, wouldn't it behoove Toyota to take some action ASAP to correct the situation. As stated in your posting, the new 2007 Camry has 450,000 new owners. If we subtract 35 from 450,000 owners we have 449,965 owners that do not have a trans problem. QUESTION: --- What is different about the 35 vehicles that have the trans problem? This should be an easy fix. Take 35 NEW transmissions off the assembly line, and install them in the vehicles in question. Then take the old transmission and find the problem in these units! This would solve two problems. First the customer would be satisfied, and second if there are more vehicles out there with the problem, a solution to the problem would be established! Customer satisfaction is the most important part of the solution. Any company must view every issue from both the corporate and the customer side of the problem. ----- Best regards. ------- Dwayne
> In this way no region is forced to take vehicles it can't sell.
Therefore people in Florida don't order 4-wd vehicles. Very simple.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Of course no one can "know" the other vehicles don't have the same problem.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
the issues people are experiencing and reporting now with the '07 camry are not really new.
now when people report their '07 camry transmissions being replaced, and their problem is gone only to return later, people take notice.
a real stretch in logic - just because there might be only a few dozen VOCAL complainers as you say - it doesn't follow that that the balance don't have the problem - indeed the laws of mass production would generally support that ALL the cars must be the same and should exhibit the same behavior. As the owner of an 05 Avalon with the same purported problems found on the Camry 5 speed (that doesn't incidentally, bother me), would suggest that since the issues are not reliability (failure) related, it may be a case that many of the 449,965 owners either adapting to the car or in some other manner simply accepting it!
I'm certain that there are a lot more than 35 dissatisfied in the performance of the vehicle. The problem that arises is 'who has a problem and who doesn't?'. The only way to solve it is on a case by case basis. If say 5% or less are having problems in performance then that's 20,000 customers or so that need to have a solution found.
I feel that number is too high but there's no way for we the public to know for certain. Some as reported here have been satisfied, some not at all, with the service. TSB's and adjustments including new valve bodies, new software flashes and new trannys have solved some problems but not others. Some may be over-sensitive reactions on the drivers part as well.
As these new DBW vehicles start to become commonplace with every maker these types of issues are arising across the whole spectrum. The Camry is a huge volume model so it also has potentially a huge volume of complaints. However perfecting the technology is something that has to be done to improve the driving experience for every driver.
an example - a friend with a new Subaru Forester (5 sp I think) complaining about 'hesitation' on gear reengagement. Takes it back to his dealer, is told 'that all these new trannies do this', is treated to a quick 'reprogramming', and has been fine ever since.
As these engineers are chasing the FE and safety grails, somehow driveability is taking a back seat, and as user777 notes - Toyota/Lexus are in the lead pack of chasers....
On Sunday, I drove over to the local Toyota dealership to see what they had on the lot. Sure enough they did have a 4 cyl LE with alloy wheels however it was the 15 spoke wheels not the seven spoke. I'm personally not too fond of the 15 spoke wheels, I prefer the 7 spoke.
I was surprised to see that the dealer had a 4 cyl SE with the 17 inch wheels and the 7 spoke alloy wheels. It's really a nice looking car. I thought finding a 4 cyl SE would be difficult so I was happy to see they may be more common than I thought.
I'm going to make a car purchase this summer, and I'm trying to decide between the 4 cyl 07 Accord, 4 cyl 07 Camry LE, 4 cyl 07 Camry SE, or wait and buy the 4 cyl 08 Accord.
they've been pushing the envelope at least 4 or 5 years with this on the lexus line, then bringing it more mainstream. in the case of the '07 camry, it seems to me a good deal came together a tad too quickly and wasn't thoroughly tested before its introduction. engine and transmission control is something you need to be bullet proof on right out of the gate.
I just purchased a new Camry Le out here in Philly. Will take deliver on 26th. Now this is my first car ever. What kind of things should I be doing to take care of the car in this winter (ending soon!!!) season. Like before driving it to work everyday, should I warm up the car for a few mins etc...
Is there a discussion thread for these type of questions as well?
You can ask just about anything Camry related in this general discussion. But have a look at the discussion list here and see what specific subjects have their own discussions.
Keep us posted on how it goes!
That's what they say. That's what I do...and my '95 Camry still runs like a charm....so good, in fact, that I'm almost afraid to buy a new car.
If that was true, then all cars should be tuned to run on premium since premium fuel gets so much better gas mileage that there is real no cost for it. On top of that, if that were true, having only one fuel grade would save the cost of distributing and formulating different grades of gas, making it cheaper yet.
Are you taking issue my (or anyone else's) ability to calculate a fairly accurate mileage figure over thousands of mileage of driving? Are do you just like to argue? These are rhetorical questions. You don't need to respond and if you do, I won't. Have a great day.
V6 transmission flaring
DBW hesitation
Cold weather startup and Dashboard noises
Windnoise on freeway (very subjective)
did I miss anything else?
My car's been made in Nov 06.
Is it affected?
1622 of 3238 Re: A/C [damon34] by drjames Sep 13, 2006 (3:11 am)
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Hey damon34,
You probably already know this, but there's a TSB for the '06-'07 Camry equipped with the 2AZ-FE engine and U250E automatic transaxle (ATM) or I4 5A ... it's TSB TC010-06 dated August 11, 2006.
The Volvo S60 2.5T would be 2005-2006 not brand new.
Can't decide. Drove both of them. Like Volvo better, however reliability is a big issue.
Any experience out there ? ...
My 2007 V6 Camry is almost 6 weeks old and it has about 3,500 miles on it with NO problems! I already had the first oil and filter change. (It was done around 2,500 miles by the dealer). The next oil and filter change will be done by the dealer at about 5,000 miles or sooner, depending on my schedule, ----- (I have the Pre-paid Toyota maintenance program). I always warm up my engine before I drive away in the morning. This is my choice. I recognize that others have a different opinion on this issue!
The transmission shifts VERY SMOOTH and POSITIVE. There is a different "feel on the accelerator" as compaired to my 2003 four cylinder Honda Accord. The Camry is a "drive by wire vehicle", and the Honda was "hard wired to the throttle"!
When I step hard on the accelerator, the transmission downshifts very smooth, and the Camry accelerates very quickly! (It is one "hot" vehicle)! I notice a little "torque steer" under hard acceleration. This did not occur with the Honda, but the Honda was only a four cylinder vehicle.
At this point in time, I am happy with the purchase, BUT,---- I am still concerned about the transmisson issue that some people are discussing on this board. Maybe Toyota corrected the problem, or maybe the problem will show itself as the mileage accumulates on the vehicle. Time will tell!!!!!
Since I do a lot of driving during the year, I plan on having the transmission serviced at least once a year by dropping the pan, changing the filter if so equipped, and refilling with fresh Toyota fluid. I WILL NOT HAVE THE TRANSMISSION FLUSHED! I will have the "service" performed the old fashioned way!
I will keep everyone advised as the mileage accumulates! ---- Best reagrds. ------ Dwayne
Once you develop a feel for that unshift event reliably then if you apply throttle immediately thereafer you will undoubtedly encounter the 1-2 second delay/hesitation as the car does the required downshifting.
I respectfully disagree with changing oil at 2500 mile intervals, since you put so many miles on the car so quickly, and I disagree with warming up the car, especially if it's garaged. It's your car though, so it's ultimately up to you.
As I said before, he has a good car without symptoms, and he should just enjoy it without being paranoid about what MIGHT happen. Just my 2 cents.
Drive and enjoy. If a real problem comes up, it will be noticed in due time.
Think about your own reaction the very first time you experienced the "throbbing" of the brake pedal upon ABS activation.
The ABS braking warns in the manual about the pulsating pedal, and some suggest trying it out on slippery surfaces at low speeds to see how it feels.
My parents have a 2005 Camry and they were told they must use at least plus grade. Thanks in advance.
Yes, and many of the questions posed here are a really good indication of just how many owners bother to read the owners manual...
I always have in the past but now that it's a ~600 page volume..
Then again, I don't buy complex cars with complex options, so I can skip over the parts about the fancy audio systems and since my children are grown, I can also skip over the part about child restraints.
But my original point still stands -- no reason for someone to find nits in a car that's driving just fine.
I like driving a warm vehicle and based on my experience, any car drives better and shifts better if it is warmed up.....versus having the rpm's go up as you drive or sit at idle.
For example, the info on VSC is almost identical in the Camry, Highlander, Tundra, and Scion xB manuals, all of which I have partially read [and owned] - who needs to read up on a CC stalk operation, etc.
Our New Camry came with a DVD version of the owner's manual. Just point and click like a TIVO.
I found this with a quick Google search:
EPA:
Idling gets 0 miles per gallon. Cars with larger engines typically waste more gas at idle than do cars with smaller engines.
Edmunds:
Avoid Excessive Idling.
When a car is idling, it is using fuel, yet not going anywhere. This translates to 0 mpg. When you leave your car running while you are waiting in line at the drive-thru, or as you wait outside your kids' school, you are wasting fuel. It is more efficient to turn the engine off while you wait and then restart the car. If that's not practical (like in the line at McDonald's), then park the car and go inside instead.
Iowa State University:
Most vehicles do not need to be warmed up. In fact, no matter how efficient the car is, unnecessary idling wastes fuel, costs money and pollutes the air. If waiting for more then couple minutes in a drive-up lane, turn off the engine. Also, do not leave the car idling while running into a store for a "quick" errand. This is especially hard on a car during in the hot summer months and is an open invitation for auto theft.
Car Talk (Click and Clack):
What's your MPG when you're idling? It's negative! You're actually burning gas... and going nowhere.
If you're sitting outside a tattoo parlor waiting for your grandmother, and you know it's going to take her a good 15 minutes to get that new Komodo dragon tattooed on her left butt cheek, turn off your engine. You're just burning money. Some people have heard a myth that it takes more gas to start a car than to run it. So they use that as an excuse to leave a car idling. It's complete B.S. If you're stationary for more than a couple of minutes, shut it off, and save gas.
This tip also applies to warming up the car. Unless it's below freezing, cars don't need to be warmed up at all. Driving them gently is the best warm up there is. If it's 25 degrees out, you might want to let it warm up for 30 seconds. If it's 10 degrees out, warm it up for a minute. If it's -10 degrees out, move somewhere warmer.
Only Click and Clack could mess this up too. Idling gets 0 miles per gallon. It's impossible to get "negative" gas mileage; your tank would overflow would be one interpretation. Grin.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Nu Finish was my former liquid wax and the clear coat scratch remover from the same company worked well on a door scuff last weekend.
Seems like back in the day one had to let a newly built vehicle "cure" for two months before laboriously waxing it.
Rain X is in my detailing quiver. I don't know how I ever got along without it either!
I was just curious what you meant.
Thanks again.
Do you guys think its something serious?
Did any budy report same problem in 2007 camry 4 cyl?
2oo7 camry 4 cyl made in japan
your inputs are appreciated.
have a nice weekend