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Anyway, did the new transmission Ford put in your car fix the problem? Do tell.
Thanks.
I love these kind of posts:
********ATTENTION ALL 05 MUSTANG GT OWNERS********
The "3250 vibration is now solved"! This should please many GT owners. It seems that it is a faulty exaust hanger...and vibrates violently at 3250 and 1200 RPM. We found the problem this morning at my dealership. I'm sure Ford will issue a TSB in the next few days....I knew it was probebly something silly and it was. Similar to the very same probem I had with my 98 Corvette.
Still working on the "2900" problem (probebly rear-end or driveshaft), and are currently working on the "slow RPM drop rate issue". More info as soon as I get it.
Sucess!
Other than a really LOUD squeeky/crunchy noise I have (sounds like its coming from the trunk) every problem I've had has been fixed! I haven't taken my car in for the squeek yet.
I LOVE MY CAR!!!!!!
Ford had only 7 GT owners OFICALLY ON PAPER with the "3250 RPM vibration" complaint...but Ford claims almost EVERY 05 Mustang GT has the problem!! So why only 7 complaints on paper? Because Ford couldn't find the problem, so they advise the dealers to tell customers that it is "normal" WTF? :surprise: :surprise: Could that be true? That was what some annonomous people around the service dept. were saying.
Obviously, they didn't tell my dealership that it is "normal". For some reason in my case, they decided to push and try to find the problem. When they realized that it wasn't the tranny mounts, they asked my technician here to "push on" and try to figure it out. Here is how the technical description reads on the invoice:
"At About 1200 1300 RPM 3200 3300 RPM A Vibration All Over The Veh. Can Hear It More Than It Feals Any Gear Or Neutral. EVA And Diagnosis And Verify Concern And Run OASIS And Found 108 And 82 HZ At 3250 RPM Per Ford Neutralize Exaust At 6 Connection And Redrive" Blah Blah Blah (I'll translate the rest into english ).....
It seems that Ford advised the my technician to check all mounts including motor-mounts tranny-mounts and exaust-mounts and brackets...and it was an exaust hanger that did it (slightly twisted I beleive). It was my service tech that found the problem and corrected it, but it was Ford that encourged him to try. Why the sudden about-face from Detroit is beyond me. Anyway, one problem down, two to go!
Yippie!
I'll post the result afterwards.
When I brought it in for the brakes we heard a noise coming from the front near the dash. The dealership first replaced the separator plate which didn't help. We brought it back and they replaced the rear gear shift, which didn't help. Finally this last time when we brought it back again they had a engineer from Ford look at it and they are in the process of waiting for a new transmission to come off the line so that they can put it in. We'll see if this helps. :sick:
I saw a lot of people having problems with rear noise, but any have the same noise it the front? It really sounds as if it's coming from behind the radio and it's almost like a rubbing/grinding noise, but it's only audible when the car is quiet. You can't hear it over noise from the radio or with open windows.
1.Gas tank issue.
2.Brake fluid reservoir leaking on the plastic that holds the brake fluid.
3.Brakes squeeking a bit.
4.When from park to reverse or drive on my automatic shifter it makes a clunk sound.
5.When taken off on freeway sounded like gears were shifting different from when I bought it
6.Whineing siren noise come in from back when I accelerate on freeway.
All Keep you all posted after I get it back to let you know what happened thanks again.
One was the "shaker" stereo, which Ford fixed quickly on the dealer level (TSB issued) and the production level.
The other was the "slow fuel fill" of the gas tank. Again, Ford issued a TSB to fix at the dealer level and made running changes in production.
I've seen a few who've reported some sort of "popping" sound coming from the front, but that has been sporadic.
Mine was built March 23rd. I've experienced none of these problems. That tells me that most of the issues have been addressed quickly on the factory floor.
I subscribe to about 5 other Mustang boards. Since they probably represent 100s, if not 1000s of '05 Mustang owners, I take thier reports of problems a little more seriously. That's not to say I don't think others here at Edmunds don't have concerns. It's just that I've not seen any of the issues mentioned here duplicated in those other boards.
I've bought many new cars, both foreign and domestic, for myself and family members over the years. Based on those experiences, I'd say the biggest stumbling block to owner satisfaction comes from the dealer's service depts. Some are good. Some are bad. If you have a dealer service dept that doesn't satisfy you, by all means, go to another. Any Ford dealer will honor your warranty. Find one that you like....whether it's at your selling dealer or not.
The 2nd biggest stumbling block is the actual owners. Some owners either don't understand what they've bought or they have expectations of the car that are outside the realm of what the car is supposed to be or do. I've seen a couple of posts regarding "strange sounds or vibrations". While I'm sure they exist and that there may be an issue, I do think they're clearly fixable at the dealer level. On the other hand, this car has a powerful V8. Ford purposely made it "rumbling" in the way it sounds. Those of us who are sports car fanatics, want and like those sounds. We didn't want a Buick or Camry.
Best advice I can give, find a service dept you trust and understand what it is you bought.
For one, no progress can be made if a technician won't admit that there is a problem. For another, it makes you feel like there is something wrong with YOU when your told 'nothing is wrong", and that can be degrading. But mainly, when you spend $30K for a car, you WANT THE DAMN THING FIXED as fast as you can, because it puts a damper on owning your brand new car you worked so hard for, and you find yourself asking "why didn't they test the car more throughly BEFORE they released it to the public?...and "can they fix the bugs before the new car smell wears off"?
:mad:
I know we are all human and make mistakes. But the bottom line is this: Any new car design will have many bugs in it. Ford should of tested this more througly before putting it into showrooms. That was just sloppy.....
My previous car was an RX8. Rotaries are notorious for "flooding". Post upon post regarding the engine flooding was made. Using that as an example, the dealer should have warned the buyer that you have to warm the car up first if you're taking it on a short jaunt (less than a couple of miles). They didn't. I blame some of that in the dealer. The owners should have also read the owner's manual warning against shutting down the RX8 when cold. That would have allevaited much of the problem.
Talking about the Mustang (specifically the GT), I've found it to be smooth running. If you've got some untoward vibration, then by all means, have the dealer service dept. take a look. If one can't find the problem, go to another.
Having followed the '05 Mustang's development, over the last 3 years or so, I'd say it's one of the most thoroughly tested and engineered cars Ford has brought out in recent years. From what I've read about (in numerous other Mustang boards), whatever issues the Mustang has had, Ford made running changes at the factory to fix quickly. For the most part, those built from March on, have had few, if any problems.
While I know you must be frustrated with the vibration you're experiencing, I don't think it's as common, nor as widespread as you believe it is. It sounds like your dealer service dept is "hot on the case" and has narrowed down, at least, part if the issue. They sound like they can get the rest taken care of, too.
Personally, my GT is probably one of the best built cars I've owned over the last 5 years. It's been perfect since the day I drove it off the lot over 2 months ago. Talking to other owners both locally and throughout the country (via the other Mustang boards), I think the vast majority of us feel the same.
The only thing I've had mine back to the dealer for was to activate the "windows down from the remote" feature that comes with active anti-theft option. That was done the day after I took delivery (and after reading the owner's manual where I found out about the feature in the first place). It took all of 5 minutes.
Mabey it was well tested...but mabey not quite well enough. Those little bugs are not earth-shattering I know, but it is frustrating to order your car, wait two months only to have several "bug-a-boo's" when you get it. What's worse is that Ford was hiding this one , according to a guy who posted earlier around page 4 or 5, and according to my tech! However, your right my tech is on it, and over time I'm sure we will work the 3 bugs out that I have. Now that I have said that, let me agree with you on this...
This is one car WORTH finding the bugs and fixing! It handles like a track car, it rides like a luxory car, it sounds very sweet, runs very smooth, and the looks....well more people in this town will turn to look than they did when I owned a new 98 Corvette! The interior is wonderfully nostalgic, very functional, and quite beautiful. I'm having more fun with this car than I did my Vettes, and the tires for this are a LOT LESS.
All in all, this 05 Mustang GT is a very nice package. If it wasn't, I guess I wouldn't have been so upset at the 'bug's" in it.
05 Mustang GT Premium
Built in May '05
Mineral Grey - Interior upgrade
pretty much loaded..
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I just got my first '05 gt automatic transmission last thursday 02/06 and allready seem to have my first problem. It's the same described here; When form park to reverse or drive on my automatic shifter it makes a clunk sound.
Anyone had this same problem and if so, anyone got it fixed allready? What was the cause?
Besides that, it runs gr8!
Thnx..
I've been having the gas tank problem since I first bought my car. I have since had it replaced and now the new gas tank is having the same problem as the original.
Also I am about to have my 3rd radio installed. The original would eject the CD and say bad disk and also while playing a song it would stop and skip to the next track for no reason. The 2nd radio installed worked fine until I realized that the lights wouldn't work and the speed volume doesn't work either. Without checking it out they told me that they would replace it again.
Now here's one thing that I haven't heard anyone talk about and I was wondering if anyone else has had the same problem...... When my fuel gets down to 3/4 tank full, my gage will go to E and my gas light will come on. It's happened on my original gas tank and on my new gas tank. Ford has ordered me a new fuel sensor and I'm waiting for it to come in to replace it. I'm about to the point that I am starting to check out the :lemon: laws for some information.
This same thing happened to me and it really pisses me off that the technicians don't read TSB's when you bring in your car. Shouldn't that just be standard operating procedure whenever you bring your car in? Now you are about to take the trouble to bring in your car and be without it for a day because some lazy technician didn't read the TSB that SPECIFICALLY says if your don't do the proper programming the lights on the buttons won't work. :mad: .
Exhaust Vibration - fixed
Front End Popping
Paint Stripes Peeling
Slow Fuel Fill
Passenger Air Bag Light Stays Lit
Hesitation in Acceleration
Clunking Sound From P to R
Other than that, I love the car.
I have it in the shop right now for a couple of issues, but they called and said it's ready to be picked up now.
The only thing major is the fuel tank. I have filled my car about four times so far and it’s only done it to me at the Kroger pump.
I went to fill it from about 1/8th of a tank and it cut off on me twice right away. After that, it filled fine until I got to $14.99 and it cut off. I didn’t figure this was enough gas, so I tried to add a little more and it overflowed.
I got in the car and I had only about 5/8 tank. I went to Citgo and filled it the rest of the way without incident.
They’re going to replace the tank.
Anyways, the only other issues I’ve had are that there is a small part of the driver’s floorboard that pops when pressure is applied to it. Like a piece of the metal above the floorboard, but under the carpet, is bubbled up or something. Similar to those little popper things that you train a dog with or use to “buzz in” in a board game.
Also the passenger door is rubbing against the striker when the door closes. This isn’t a big problem, I just want to get it fixed. When you close the door slowly you notice that it rubs it and the door actually lifts up ever so slightly as it closes.
The last thing is the drop glass on the driver’s side is rubbing against the frame when it opens.
No driving problems at all. I’ve got about 1,100 miles on it so far and it has driven flawlessly.
Anyways, they said it is done now and they replaced the tank. The driver's door drop glass is fine. They looked at others on the lot and they rub the frame as well. They adjusted the passenger door and I will have to schedule an appointment with the body shop about the popping in the floor board.
I'll let you know all the details after I pick it up.
Anybody have any luck with the hesitation problems on the GT automatic? I swear there is a hesitation in the low gears. Also when I am in stop and go traffic seem to rev engine after braking and getting that feeling of a "thunk" from the engine. Do you guys think driving with overdrive off would give the GT a smoother ride in the stop and go traffic.
Any ideas?
That said, the Mustang is NOT going to ride like a Lincoln. What you should notice is the ride is firm and the suspension planting the wheels firmly on the road.
Mine was built March 23. I've never noticed any "bounce" in the suspension at all. Maybe the one you drove had a broken shock from hard test drives?
I do think some earlier builds had the slow fuel fill and skipping shaker stereo, but I believe the changes made at the factory from the end of March going forward, fixed these issues.
No changes to the '06 aside from colors and wheel/tire options.
I order my GT in a beautiful "Mineral Grey" and pick it up, and I notice the light bounces differently off a small part of the front of hood (about the size of my hand) then it does the rest of the car...so I take a closer look. I go to the car wash and the problem is still there, and I realize my worst fears are confirmed: It looks as if some DOPE mechanic shut the hood leaving a bit of dirt on the hood, so then stupidly wiped the dirt and grease off with a rag, destroying the clearcoat in that area. I don't kow if it was in Michigan, or here at the dealership, but after spending 30K this IDIOCY does not make me happy. Going to FORD right now and see about it...
Well, I'll say you and the salesman must have an awful sensitive bodies. Today was our day to go an p/u the long awaited GT convrt. My wife (who's car this is) drives a Chrysler T&C Ltd Minivan and I drive a Taurus. Neither had ever driven the GT prior to ordering. We drove it today for the first time and let me state that one of the first things that impressed both of us was the smoothness of the ride (particularly on bumpy roads). My wife even indicated she thought it rode much smoother than her Minivan and that doesn't have IRS. Maybe because it's a convertible, but we were both impressed.
"More I use the Honda, the better I like it, and the chance of my ordering another Mustang seem to be fadeing away" I'd say go drive the convertible it'll make a believer out of you.
For fun tonight, I really jumped on it leaving an empty parking lot (back end of airport), had TC set to off, then put it to floor (acting like an imature little kid, this car does that to you) and although super quick takeoff couldn't spin the tires. Seems like should have gotten the Stick if wanted to that eh? Just curious if anyone else tried this and is that just something not going to happen with an Automatic? Also, car does seem to hestitate (when stepping on gas) little bit which surprises me, but when talked with Sales guy he didn't have any ideas, other than engine is new and maybe needs to have some time on it to eliminate the hestitation? Appreciate some feedback on this and wether I should be concerned at all.
I wouldn't think that anyone who is a performance car fan would be satisfied with an Accord or Camry or any car of that ilk.
Enjoy your Accord. I don't think a Mustang or GTO fan would consider one to meet our expectations of what we want out of our cars, though.
Besides that, now, the dashboard (interior upgrade package) has been tickling sometimes by the passenger side. I think/hope this is easy to fix by my dealer. Also when running like 30 minutes and then taking a left turn, I've starting to hear a strange noise in the back. It's like a gear on gear sound.
Anyone has heard this sound? Besides these ones, I still DO love my 2005 GT.
Looks like the typical two to three year blues for domestic new model cars. Oh
well, the more things change, the more they stay the same. - Loren
It was bugging me and I just could not figure out just where it was coming from. Then I noticed when I shifted into second gear, the sound "broke" for a second. My radar told me to look at the shifter. It seems I had the shifter twisted to the left (toward me), which is something I did on purpose weeks before because I liked the way it looks (the manual shifter is easliy turned either way if you haven't noticed). It seems the leather shift boot which was slightly twisted (because I had slightly twisted the shifter) and it was the SHIFT BOOT making the sound! :surprise: I strightend the shifter and no more problems....
While I have no recent experience, I've had less than sterling ownership experiences with 2 Hondas. I don't consider those experiences indicative of the brand, however.
Personally, the Accord wouldn't be to my liking for various reasons....mainly to do with performance. I'm certain your Accord is a good car, however. They're nice cars for what they can do.
I'm used to very good handling cars, and prefer those over ones that are more "middle of the road" in their performance. My previous car was an RX8. While the Mustang won't outhandle that car, the ride is better in the Mustang. Mine has had no pops, creaks, groans, squeaks, rattles, vibrations, runs, or errors.
The ability of GM to bring out a Camaro is a dead issue (they certainly can't build them in Canada and their's no plant here capable of making them. They've said numerous times they have no future Camaro plans. It is a shame since I think healthy competition is good.
But, the closest to hope for would be the GTO to survive with an update in the '07-'08 timeframe on one of the General's more modern platforms.
To say the Mustang is somehow "not right" isn't right. It has ferrocious acceleration (GT model). Handles well. Rides nicely. It's comfortable. And, is built well. No excuses need to be made for it.
If it's not your "cup of tea", I don't have any issues with your assessment. If you like your Accord more, you chose your purchase with your pocketbook. That's the right thing to do. But, I think if you took something like a 350Z, RX8 (or any other high performance gear) out for a test drive, I'd bet you may have the same complaints about their suspension, too. They all ride firmer than your Accord.
The Mustang GT will certainly outhandle and ride better than any recent Camaro/Firebird examples (based on some seat time in a Z28 SS).
You might want to take a look at the GTO as it's more softly sprung than the Mustang is.
After reading other peoples posts i also have a skipping Shaker 1000, "thud" shifting from park to reverse and cant fill my tank up with petrol at nearly 50% of petrol stations I stop at.
I also find that even with TC off i cant spin the wheels off the line. should have gone for the manual tranny.
By the way, I second graphicguy's opinion on the person who got an Accord coupe. My brother's 350Z is harsher in ride. the G35 coupe too. The Mustang, for me, was actually too soft. My Eibach Pro0Kit fixed that and it now feels like a sports car. Thing is, there are concessions to be made when getting Mustang, 350Z, etc...part of the package of getting sports car, not a sporty car.
Also, my shifter boot is noisy only in second gear, I will try moving it around because it sound like something is rubbing and making a obnoxious noise. I still have the rattle from the passenger side dash, under the aluminum because when I press down...it disapeears. The good thing is I don't hear it much when the windows are down. UNfortunately today is raining! :mad:
Joe,
I HAVE CONTACTED FORD, TO HAVE A VERY SNOTTY PERSON TELL ME THEY CANNOT DO ANYTHING, JUST KEEP WAITTING FOR MY DEALER TO CALL ME BACK! :lemon: :lemon: :lemon:
I've never heard any noise from the shifter boot. But, I treated it with leather conditioner. No noises out of it.
While I've not driven an automatic GT, the manual tranny in the Mustang GT will smoke the tires easily with a little RPM action and a clutch dump. I would imagine the same would be true if you built some RPM with your foot on the brake in the automatic version and then let it rip.