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$550/mo + tax. Is this a good deal?
What is a good range to look for on this configuration. For Example $300 - $400, where $300/mo is an exeptional deal, and $400 is border line, where you can still get the car, but its border line being a bad deal.
Thank you.
Looking for 15K miles per year
First dealership was not even showing me residuals or money factors just coming up with various different "deals" - none of which were very good. By emailing another dealership I am getting some idea of what they are trying to do to me. They are quoting a money factor of 0.00219 which seems way out of line with the 0.00169 that is being thrown around on here. I assume this is another way they attempt to rip you off. Should I just tell them I want a 0.00169 money factor and walk away if they won't agree?
Does this sound right, or does this sound way too expensive when putting $5000 total drive off???
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Hi - can someone give me the latest MF and residual for the A4 Avant Premium Plus 2.0 Quattro, 3 years, 36K.
I was told 56% / .00192 for Oct and now being quoted 54% / .00212 for Nov. Given the economy I can't see how both the residual and MF would have gotten worse.
Thanks!
AD
I have had a blast driving it, but I'm ready to turn it in. No mechanical problems. My teenage boys are 6 feet tall (much taller than I am) so fitting in the back seats is too tight. The Audi dealer in Norwell Mass. has been great to deal with.
I looked at a 2004 AllRoad with 33k miles, but couldn't find an extended warranty program that didn't make me feel like I was being taken advantage of, so I'm looking around until I return my A4
Carman, the lease deal was sweet, so was the ride.
Thank you for your advice nearly 2 years ago.
Still having fun!
MSRP $43800 (A4, Prestige pagckage, navi, quartz color)
$4100 total drive off for 36mo lease w/ 15k miles/yr.
$540/mo including tax????
HELP please, I don't know if this is a good deal or not?
BTW, I just got an 08 A6 for much less than that (as in over $5K less). If you are in SoCal let me know and I'll hook you up with an honest salesman.
36 month lease
15000mi/yr
$4100 Total Drive Off (bargained to this from $5000)
Residual - 50%
Money Factor - 0.00169
$540 including tax
Car is A4 with Prestige, Navigation, Quartz
Dealer is telling me this is a very aggressive deal, I'm thinking to go take it, because others were offering in the mid $600s.
Comparing close out deals on leftover 08 A6's is different than new body 09 A4's.
I offered the info about getting an A6 as an aside and a comparison of car deals to give a point of reference. That's why I wrote 'BTW' before it.
Price: $36844.00
Down: $2000
Rate: .00169
Term: 36mo 15k m/y
Residual: 0.54
First month paid
$598.76/mo it just seems like the monthly is a little high
I think its $500 above invoice, he joked about making the deal at invoice price but it seems like people are getting it for under invoice? Thanks for any help!
Questions...
1. MF: Is .00169 a good mf. It seems like around 4%. What would be considered to high?
2. Residual: is 50% or 54% better. I would think the higher the better. Not sure how to calculate this.
3. Purchace price: What should a person be aiming for? You need to negotiate the purhase price first correct? I hear under invoice is possible... anyone having that experience?
Any small print or "catches" I need to be aware of? Thanks. I'm trying not to get nailed.
The car I'd like to get is the A4 Premium Plus Quatro: MSRP is $37,175 according to the Audi website.
Thanks for any advice!
1&2. Here is the info for the MF & Residual for a Premium Plus (according to CarMan): 2009 A4 Sedan Premium Plus with 10,000 miles per year are .00169 and 56%, respectively. If you want additional mileage per year (12k or 15k), the MF and residuals change. The higher the residual the better for your lease rate. You want to get the MF and residual the Audi Financing publishes. If they are giving you different numbers (worse numbers), they are trying to make money off of you.
3. You want to aim for as close to invoice as possible. You do need to negotiate the purchase price first.
I highly recommend Carlsen Audi in Palo Alto. I leased my current '07 A4 from them and had a great experience (paid $101 under invoice, proper MF and residuals; no haggling). Ask for the sales manager. He is great to deal with.
Good luck!
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I am coming to the end of my '07 A4 lease 2.0T Quattro, Premium and Convenience package. The purchase price on my lease is listed as $26,013.55. Adding CA tax onto that, the total payoff is $28,751.21.
Looking on Edmunds and Kelley Blue Book, the trade in value ranges from $23500 (Kelley) to $25350 (Edmunds). Private party value is basically the same from both sources - $26,650. Suggested retail is basically the same from both at $30, 850.
So, the question is, do you think it is worth it to purchase this vehicle? We have only put 12,000 miles on it in the two years of ownership. It is in very good condition. We do have dings on the bumper and hubcaps (which the dealer thinks we will be charged for) but that is about it.
I called AFS and they said they do not negotiate the purchase price. Not sure if this is true but how do I get around that? As for financing deals, they are offering 3.9% on a 36 mo loan, as well as a $1000 gift card. We would most likely finance for a bit then pay it off in a few months (simple interest, no pay off penalty).
At the end of the day, we really like the car. We did get a nice offer on a new A4 but even though we really like it, it is pretty big and we aren't sure we like that aspect of it.
Any input would be great. I appreciate your help!!
Meg
2009 A4 Avant Prestige
$42,125 ($1,000 off MSRP)
36 mos
10,000 miles/yr
$1,500 loyalty rebate
$648.02/mo (no tax in OR)
(Don't have MF or Residual, but hoping to get that today.)
Our A4 Sedan is worth about $24,757 certified used. We owe $20,167 and they offered to make our last payment of $570.
The Avants available in OR are slim pickings, but I still think they ought to be able to make a better offer than this.
What we wanted was a black Premier Plus (which they said would be about $587/mo), but they don't have one in stock and nothing coming. Only silver. I haven't haggled in 3 years and could use your help with how to tackle this and what ballpark is feasible.
Thanks!
http://www.teamspeed.com/forums/auto-leasing-financing/13241-audi-auto-lease-rat- es-november-2008-a.html
I'm turing in my old 07 A4 for
09 A4 Prem Plus Quart
36m / 15k
485 down + taxes + fees = $2854.26 at signing
$485.01 a month
Thank you
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I personally probably wouldn't exercise my purchase option on a leased vehicle at this point, but it might be worth it to try to negotiate with AFS again. Some times consumers who are shut down in their initial attempt to negotiate their vehicles' purchase prices have better luck if they work their way up the ladder to a manager. Give it a shot, you don't have anything to lose.
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I have more info and a new price on a new lease for an 09 Avant Quattro Prestige:
MSRP: $43,125
Invoice: $41,757
Selling Price: $42,000 ($40,500 minus $1,500 loyalty rebate)
Acquisition Fee: $625
Res Value: $20,700
Money Factor .00222
Terms: 10K/42 mos
1st month paid on new loan, last month paid on current lease ($570.03)
They're telling me it's $623.56/mo. Really wanted to spend less money and stick with the Prem Plus, but can't find one in OR. If I try WA, I pay sales tax.
Thanks for any help...
When will December rates be available? The car will probably arrive at the dealership after the end of Nov.
Thanks again.
MSRP: $49,550
LEV% 47%
Residual: $23,288.50
Adj. Cap. Cost $43,864.25
Lease Factor: 0.00210
Base Pay $630.92
Tax: $58.68
Total Pay $689.60
Down: $6000 ($4,500 from you and $1,500 from Audi)
I believe those are October rates. For example, I was looking at the A4 Avant and the numbers that car_man quoted vs. what is in that posting are different. When i compared it to October they matched up exactly - i didnt take the time to match all cars, but that would be my guess.
AD
I just got 09 A4 Prestige with Nav with 15K mi/yr and only $3000 down for $518 incl tax. The MSRP was $44,500.
I am considering a new Audi either A4 or A6. I have an A4 lease that is will go back mid-Dec so I will qualify for the $1500 loyalty cash. In addition, I quality for the Audi Supplier Discount program though my employer. I was wondering how this figures in with other discounts, incentives and possible negotiations? Should I be able to negotiate a price and then get the supplier discount and loyalty cash on top of that?
Thanks,
Ron
http://www.socalaudidealers.com/audi/regional_aoa/socal/extra_hero.html
is this really zero due at signing? I don't need to bring a checkbook?
Also, what happens if I give up the car sometime during the lease? What am I liable for if I return the car prior to lease end?
I am going to make a deal on an A4 2.0 quattro sedan, either Premium or Premium Plus. Do you have the Audi Financial buy rate lease money factor and residual for each with 12k miles and 36 month term?
Your help would be greatly appreciated as I think my dealer is playing with the numbers.
Going in I believed most dealers would be happy to move their current inventory at invoice right now and I would get the 1500 off - so thats the deal I offered them to take a car off their hands that day. After some back and forth they agreed.
MSRP: $49,550
LEV% 47%
Residual: $23,288.50
Adj. Cap. Cost $43,864.25
Lease Factor: 0.00210
Base Pay $630.92
Tax: $58.68
Total Pay $689.60 WITH TAXES
Down: $6000 ($4,500 from you and $1,500 from Audi)
A4 Convertible - only extras are Heated Seats, Metallic Paint, & iPOD connection
MSRP: $45,125
Sell Price: $43,500
36 month, 15,000 miles
$850 out of pocket (current Audi promotion - no security, no first month?)
$638/month
To add navigation & convenience package: $677/month
A4 Quattro Premium Plus and nav and audicare
36 mo
15k/yr
MSRP 40025
Sale price 35,900
$0 down
.00169 MF
54% residual
$605/mo and that incl. 6% tax on total sale price of car
i hope this helps
Is $36,900 include the $1,500 loyal discount? also what is your total drive-off payment?
I went to dealer for quotation, I got the followings,
09 A4 premium plus, deep sea blue
36 M
12k/ yr
MSRP 38900
2,500 drive off
$580/ mo without tax
I know there are rooms for negotiation. Thanks for your help.
Would you be able to provide the latest MF and Residuals numbers for the A4 Prestige and Premium Plus Trims / 36mo / 10,000 miles per yr lease deals?
A dealer in NJ offered the Prestige for $41,500 sales price, no money down, $469 out of pocket up front, and a monthly payment of $699 after taxes. The Premium Plus sales price was $39,011 and monthly payment of $619.
Both of these deals sound really high to me.
Thanks.
the $35,900 did not include the $1500 loyalty because i was not a previous Audi owner. however, there was a $1000 competition conquest credit because i was a previous Acura owner. also, there was absolutely $0 drive-off. right now Audi is paying the first month lease payment. all my taxes and fees were included in the monthly.
i'd push for a $0 down deal if i were you.
I got my 09' A4 2.0T black on black with Premium +, nav and sport package a week ago from a local dealer in MD. An exact match of what I was looking for and the only one in the area. Details are below:
MSRP: $41,475.00
Selling Price: $39,084.00 ($500 over edmund’s invoice/$100 over the dealer's invoice)
Costs Added to Lease: $3,941.00 (Tax-$2,345.00; Tags/Title-$331.00; Audi Care-$650, & Acq Fee- $615)
Cap. Cost Reduction: $650
Residual Value: 55% + 1% (for Audi Care)= 56%
MF: 0.00169
$650 due at signing, First month free
Monthly payment of $642.00 (including 6% tax)
The dealer's initial offer was a monthly payment of $690.00. It took about two weeks to get to the final offer. Since it was the only one in the area and also not wanting to wait for a delivery of an order, I pulled the trigger.