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.00125 MF and 56% residual... $2000 build out cash, and $500 loyalty/conquest cash.
2014 320i sedan
.00125 MF and 62% residual.. $500 option credit and $500 loyalty cash.
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what do you pay for your model?
what in your opinion would be a "fair" price for the model i want?
sorry for all the questions but it is truly appreciated.
just seeking other opinions... thank you!
Other members are probably a better resource for what is a good deal.
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I am interested in leasing a BMW. I am a returning customer, so I apply for the loyalty cash. This is the offer I got. I previously financed a 2008 328i using these forums as a resource to get as close to what I thought was a great deal as possible.
Cash due at signing: $5,599
This includes $2750 downpayment, 1st month payment, acquisition fees, MV fees, Doc fees, taxes.
Monthly payment of $315 for 36 months (10k miles)
This is information on the car:
2013 BMW 320xi Mineral Grey Metallic with black dakota leather. It has heated front seats and premium package which includes moonroof, power seats comfort access and satellite radio. MSRP $41,175 selling price $35,000.
Now... What is everyone's opinion? I apologize if I seem novice, but this is a new venture for me (Leasing).
Thanks for any help CarMan or others can provide!
.00125 MF and 61% residual
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Could you please give me some information about lease rate in October for 328i xdrive (both coupe and seden, 24 months, 10k/year).
I appreciate your time and help.
Thanks.
.00125 MF and 65% residual...
The coupe has the same money factor and a 69% residual.
The 36 month residuals are just 6% lower, and a much better deal..
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On a fair price, if you are ordering custom, I would shoot for $1200 over invoice, with base money factor and $725 Acquisition fee. I don't know your exact build, but you should be able to go online and price it out. I also see they padded the cost with a $199 doc fee, pure profit for them. Also, definitely use the MSD's, I found that the guys in Hawaii really aren't all that educated about them. For example, when subtracting the .00049 from the money factor takes the payment to say $495, then it is $3500 for the 7 msd's. It is a really good return on your money, totally refundable after the lease, even if the car gets stolen or totaled, you still get your MSD's back.
Finally, put down MSD's, multiple security deposits, instead of a down payment. You can put down 7 MSD's, which each one reduces the money factor by .0007 for a total of .00049, which lowers the payment $30-40 dollars a month and is totally refundable to you at the end of the lease. Plus if something happens to the car, it is still refundable.
Does anybody know what the current lease rates for the 2014 Activehyrid 3 for a 10k/year lease?
Thanks!
.00125 MF and 57% residual
$750 of option credit cash.. $3500 option credit and $500 of lease loyalty available.
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Does anybody know the current (October) lease rates for the 2014 BMW 435i w/ Xdrive for a 15k/year lease?
Thanks!
.00125 MF and 60% residual
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I'm not sure if you want to start a separate thread for the 4 series.
What is the MF (good credit) and RV for a 2014 BMW 435i with M sport package, 15K/year.
Thanks again!
2013 328i RWD sedan; and
2014 328i RWD sedan
Thank you in advance. I'm in Southern California if that matters.
I am looking for the October money factor and residual for a 36 month lease, 10K miles per year, for a 2014 335i XDrive M Sport.
Also would like to confirm incentives. I've seen $750 option allowance and $500 loyalty -- is there an additional $500 "turn-key payment credit" towards first month's payment?
Thank you!
.00125 MF and 60% residual
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.00125 MF and 56% residual... $2000 build out cash, $500 owner loyalty
2014 328i sedan 36mo, 15K yr lease
.00125 MF and 58% residual.. $750 option credit cash, $500 loyalty
Other term lengths are not competitive..
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.00125 MF and 61% residual.. $750 and $500 is correct.
I don't have information on the turn-key program..
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What are the rates for...
2013 328xi 36 mo, 10K/yr lease
and
2014 328xi 36 mo, 10K/yr lease
Thanks!
.00125 MF and 59% residual
2014 328xi 36 mo, 10K/yr lease
.00125 MF and 61% residual
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Car With Options:
Manual Transmission
Mojave Mettalic or Mineral grey metallic
Sport Line
Black SensaTec/Red Highlight
High-Gloss Black Trim
Technology Package
Driver Assistance Package
Harman Kardon surround system
Term: 36 months, 10K/year miles
MSRP: $46250
SP: $42, 870
Total Capitalized Cost: $43, 795(SP + $925 Bank Fee)
Money Factor: 0.00125
Residual: 61%
Capital Reduction: ($542.85)
Rebate: $500
License & Registration: $374.75
Doc Fee: $80
Drive off: $500
Due at signing: $0
Monthly payment: $581.70 (inc. tax)
The agent tells me this price is based on invoice + $500 (invoice: $43, 210) and includes a $750 option discount.
The cap reduction & rebate basically negates my first month payment + license/registration + doc fee...meaning $0 due at signing.
Is this a good deal? Why is the cap cost reduction negative (is he giving me a credit?). Is the $500 rebate what he is alluding to as option discount?
I know reading the forums that the base acquisition fee is $725, I guess that is the bank fee in the quote?
According to true car, the factory invoice with these options is $42, 955. Do I still have room to negotiate?
Can I still pay multiple security deposits and bring the monthly payment down?
Sorry for all the questions, just trying to make an informed decision!
What other information is needed to take any uncertainty out of the calculations?
I will surely get a quote from Greg, thanks for the pointer.
2014 custom order 328i Sport line, mineral grey metallic
Leather seat upgrade
Lighting package
Driver assistance package
MSRP $44,575
Selling Price $40,080 + Lease acquisition Fee $925= 41,005 Capitalized Cost (8% off MSRP)...this includes the $750 October options credit.
MF .00125 base rate, 60% residual for 36mo 12k per year
Monthly payment $480.80 per month before state sales tax
Drive off first months payment and $487 fees+insurance ($331 DMV reg, $80 doc fee, $7 tire fee, $20 county fee, $29 electronic filing, $20 smog abatement fee)
This actually seems like a really good deal and I'm quite tempted but thought I would post and hopefully get some of the valuable wisdom from the internet to be sure I'm not making any mistakes since this is my first lease.
Finally...I'm applying for the college grad $1000 rebate, hoping for an increase in incentives on the order of $250 (usually $1000 holiday cash hor the 328i historically) for Nov/Dec when the car gets ordered, and putting down 7MSDs for a total monthly payment $411.93 +$4480 drive off (largely the deposit...not cap cost reduction)
Any thoughts?
Can I please get the MF & Residual for a 2013 335i convertible? Also what are the kinds of discount one can expect over MSRP..
I am looking at either a 24M/10K or a 36M/10K lease..
Thanks!
N
.00125 MF and 63% residual... Residual for 24 months is 69%
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Does anyone have the residual and money factor for a 428i, 36 months, 10k/year? My dealer is quoting 63% and .00165.
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Msrp: $61,775
Sale price: $58,500
You will also get another $1,000 in incentives
60% residual value, MF 0.125
36 months / 12,000 miles per year
$749/month
$2,200/total due (just the start-ups)
Can someone help me with this. what does he mean another 1000 in incentives? (I currently have a bmw lease for a 2011 335)
and are the start ups high?
Should I be asking for more? this seems to be close to target on edmunds and truecar....
Thanks
REg
51,048 msrp
47,956 is invoice plus 500
-1,000 ultimate drive
46,956 total
I qualify for 1,000 in other rebates turn key/loyalty
$1,119 cash down out of pocket and a doc fee $150
36 month 637 with tax mo. .00165 money factor 60% residual
Numbers look ok? I'm days away from pick up... Any input is appreciated.
Your numbers would imply a payment of about $715 + tax... Does $749 include the tax? If so, then depending on your tax rate, it looks like the incentives may have already been taken into account.
Startups? That can mean almost anything the dealer wants it to.... but, you've got $750 1st payment, $725 acquisition, title/license fees ($100-$500), and maybe a dealer or doc fee.. So, $2200 might have a little padding, or it might be about right..
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Does anyone have the residual and money factor for a 328d sports wagon, 36 months, 10k/year and 12k/year?
Thanks much
Add 1% for 10K/yr
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2014 Estoril Blue BMW 328i + M Sports + Nav w/ touchpad + Driver Assist pkg + Harman Kardon system
MSRP $46,2501
Selling Price $41,610
36 mo/ 10k miles per year
.00076 Money Factor/ 61% Residual (MF was 0.00125 before MSD's)
License and Registration fee - $406
Bank Fee $725
Doc Fee $80
First Payment $459.24
Multiple Security Deposits $3500
Total Due at Signing $5226.24 (MSD + Lic/Reg fee + Bank Fee + Doc Fee + First Payment)
Monthly Payment = $425.22 + tax ($459.24 including)
2014 335i 24/15k
2014 335i 36/15k
2014 435i 24/15k
2014 435i 36/15k
thanks in advance.
.00125 MF and 58% residual. 24 mo. residual is 64%
2014 435i 36mo, 15K/yr
.00125 MF and 60% residual. 24 mo. residual is 66%
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Can I get MF/Residual on lowest mileage lease available for the 320i. For 13 or 14 model year. for 24 month lease.
Also, what is excess mileage charge for BMW? I was reading on a forum from an "expert" in the field that he always recommends leasing with the lowest mileage available, even if you plan on driving more than that. He had numerous rationale but the main one that stuck with me was that you can sell the car for more than the residual in most cases and avoid paying the excess mileage fees. I drive about 18K miles per year. I mean if you drive 30k miles per year I don't think his rationale is going to hold up, but I find it interesting and would have to do the math. Does anyone have any input into this? Does BMW charge a fee for selling the vehicle...I understand some leasing companies do charge a fee so it would make this less plausible.
.00125 MF and 54% residual $2000 build out cash and $500 loyalty/conquest cash.
2014 320i 36mo, 15K/yr lease
.00125 MF and 60% residual $500 option credit cash and $500 loyalty cash
I quoted 15K/yr, because the higher mileage tiers are the cheapest miles you can buy, and you said you drive 18K/yr... BMWFS charges $0.20/mi overage, last I checked... Up until 6 months to go on your lease, you can buy extra miles from BMWFS for $0.16/mi. Extra miles (over 15K) are $0.15 each upfront.
Always take the highest mileage tier that you know that you will use.. Because BMWFS allows you to buy extra miles later in the lease at a discount, I woudn't purchase any extra, upfront..
If you have a really cheap lease, it usually means the residual is unrealistically high, so the chances of selling the car for more than the residual becomes less likely.. (this is the kind of lease you want). Assuming that you'll be able to sell a lease for more than they payoff is a gamble, and leasing companies keep making it harder to flip your car before the lease is up.
It might work out the way your "expert" says it will... but, it might not. On a $35K car, the extra 15K miles you get from going from 10K/yr to 15K/yr will cost you $1050 (3% of the MSRP in extra depreciation) That is only $0.07/mi.. If you don't take the 15K/yr allowance at lease inception, you can't change it later..
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Higher priced models may have differing per mile charges..
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But, many NY leasers say they've leased from NJ dealerships, and have had no issues with MSDs..
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