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Are you happy with the car? It seems to be a great sporty ride and Im comign out of 2010 BMW 528i so Im hoping that this will be a good choice.
Thanks for any advice
Can the experts out there please evaluate this deal for me ?...thanks
2012 MB C300 4Matic Sports Sedan with in Palladium Silver with P1 package, navigation and wood trim.
10K mile/year lease for 24 months
MSRP is $43,370
Cap cost is $38,875 (including $1,500 USAA discount)
Money factor = .00167 (based on auto pay)
Residual is 73%
$458.27 per month (including two year scheduled maintenance).
Total due at delivery=$1900 (includes 1st month payment, bank fee, registration, doc fee, tire tax and tax on upfront items)
I'm looking to lease an AMG C63 sedan for 36 or 42 months, do you know what the Residual and Money Factor is for April? Is MB offering any lease support on this model right now?
thanks in advance for the info.
Sonofmer
C250W
prem 1 package with wood trim
MSRP: $38,500
33 months, 15k miles/yr with just 1st & tag transfer
$499.00 plus tax- $529.00
$876.00 due at signing.
How does this sound? Do I need to negotiate more?
Thanks in advance,
Melissa
Do you know what the price of the car is before any rebates or add ons (i.e. the selling price of the vehicle)?
You should find out precisely what the dealer is including in the lease.
Also, $347 for tag transfer??
But as a general rule, what type of discount should I be looking for off the sticker prices?
Thanks in advance.
Thoughts?
~Melissa
Also, be weary of the Acquisition Fee, Mercedes dealers often try to charge $1,095. It should only be $795.
Before you sign your deal, post all of the details here and we can evaluate the deal for you.
2012 C250 sedan sport with p1 & burl wood.
MSRP- $38,500
$4600.00 off
$33,900.00
$497 tax in, 33 months, 15 miles/yr with $745 down which is 1st month and fees.
residual 63%
money factor .00210
Thoughts? They are taking my GLK lease back 4 months early also and throwing in window tint.
I was working with 6 dealers in my area (3 weeks total). Came down to 2. Nobody had the car optioned like I wanted, so they had to get it from out of state. The 2 dealers were both "selling" me the same car, even the they didn't know it, and didn't have it on the lot. Both were going to dealer trade for it.
When I first started looking, I was at an MSRP of $46,900, and the first quotes on 15K and 33 months were at $780/month. I knew I could do way better.
What I leased:
2012 C300 4 Matic
MSRP - $48,460
Sale Price - $43599.87
Total Money Down (Includes 1st payment) - $840
33 months - 15K miles per year
Monthly Payment - $650
3 Year Maintenance Included
Winter Floor Mats Included
The car is:
Black/Black
Multimedia (Nav, Reverse Cam, etc)
Keyless Go
Pano Roof
Roof and Trunk Spoilers
18" AMG Wheels
Illumniated Door Sills
Wheel Locks
The car has pretty much every option except the lighting and the lane assist, and I think I got an outstanding deal. They gave me the customer advocacy program, which after some googling, turns out to be the VIP, or employee pricing or whatever.
I've got a family member in a different state who works at a Benz dealer, he couldn't touch this deal, and the other dealer I was working with on the same exact car would only go down to $720/month with no maintenance plan. I guess I purchased this car with $0 profit for the dealer (what my family member says)...they simply wanted to move the unit as it was the end of the month.
It seems there are about $1,500 in added costs. You should find out what those are.
I assume $1,095 of that is acquisition fee, which you could try negoitiating down to $795 or at least down to $895.
Money factor is marked up slightly. Not sure if that is a credit issue, or simply the finance guy adding some profit. Base money factor is .00190.
Also, the 4 payment waiver is a benefit provided by Mercedes Benz Financial, and does not cost the dealer anything, so that should not be considered a "discount" by the dealer.
A decent deal as it stands now though.
It does include the $1000.00 loyalty rebate. I told him I was thinking about a BMW since it included maintenance and he threw in the 3 yr plan at no extra charge to my monthly payment. The money factor shouldn't be marked up we have excellent credit.
$38500 MSRP Dealer Invoice $36,566
$33,550 Initial cap
$36,013.99 Adjusted cap cost includes Bank Fee$1095 Dealer Fee $599.99 Maintenance $769
$24,739.47 Residual Value includes Maintenance (can be residualized)
.00210 money factor
$497.38 Tax included
$744.20 1st and tags due at start
33 months 15,000 miles year window tint included
Sales price is excellent, assuming they did not apply any incentives beyond the $1,000 owner loyalty.
Only 2 areas where this can be improved.
1) Money factor should be .00190 not .00210
2) Base Acqusition fee should be $795 instead of $1,095
Given such a good sale price, they might be unwilling to budge on the above two. Making these two improvements would lower the monthly payment roughly $25 per month.
However, if you are happy with the car and the current payment, I would say go for it.
Picking it up tomorrow.
Thanks!
Trade-in: 2008 BMW 3 Series Coupe
- initial trade-in value offered: $19k with $5k cash due
- final trade-in value offered: $20.5k with $4.5k cash due
C250 fully loaded
MSRP: $42,000
Final price: $36,700
Acq fee(CA): $1,095
Sales/use tax $282
Registration: $118
License: $239
Capitalized Cost Reduction: $2279
1st month payment: $433(including tax)
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Total net trade-in allowance: $4500 with $20,500 trade-in value (getting $16k back)
Monthly payment: $433 including tax
33 months/15k miles
2-yr maintenance
How does this deal sound and How could I negotiate more? I don't understand why I need to pay for cap cost reduction (down payment). Seems like other people just pay for 1st month and some fees (total less than $1k while mine is $4500??).
Please help!
Thanks in advance
I just got back from the dealership with the following details. This will be my first car lease and any advice would be greatly appreciated.
2012 C250W (Black with Almond MB Tex interior)
33 Months lease with 12k miles per year
MSRP: $36,460
Selling Price: $35,179
Gross Cap Cost: $32,965
Residual Value: $24,101
Monthly Payment: $450
Total Due at Signing: $1,000 (first month of $450, cap cost reduction of $224.50, title fees of $33, license fees of $51.75, registration fees of $41.25, and doc fees of $199.50)
Does this look like a good deal for $450 a month with $1,000 drive off?
Any advice would be helpful, thank you!
MSRP: $39,610
Sale Price: $32,656
33 month lease/12k miles
3k down, payments of $325 (CA tax included)
How does this deal compare? Thanks!
Premium 1 Package
Multimedia Package (nav, rear view cam, 6 disc cd etc..)
24 month lease with 12,000 miles per year
2 Year free maintenance
Total out of pocket (taxes, fees + first months payment) is $1750
Monthly payment is $450
I did qualify for the conquest program
Miles: 10K
Term: 33 months
Down: 0
Trade-in: No
Sales Tax: On whole price. (Being in Illinois, we have to pay sales tax on entire amount; not just the used amount)
Monthly payment: 539/Month
The dealer hasn't shared his detailed math with me yet, but if I reverse-engineer the information above to do the math, this lease payment translates to the following key figures:
Cap cost: 38,896 (this represents 1500 below invoice, invoice being 40,396)
Residual: 65%
Money Factor: 0.0019
Plus, this gets me out of my current 39 month lease 7 months early.
This sounds like a pretty good deal,even after accounting for the fact that I'm having to pay ~60-65/month for Sales Tax, since Illinois makes you pay for the whole Sales Tax; not just the amount you use. This does make me ponder though; maybe I should go to a nearby state to lease and try to save another 60-65/month..
Thoughts?
The numbers for an otherwise identical 42-month lease are .00145 and 52%.
Car_man
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Once you have arrived at a selling price that you are comfortable with, have the dealer calculate your payment using its buy rate lease money factor of .00190.
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WHITE
PREM 1 PKG
COMMAND MULTI MEDIA PKG (NAV AND BACK UP CAMERA)
WOOD
TRUNK SPOILER
36 MOS MAINTENANCE
MSRP 41,500
1200 DOWN INCL FIRST MO PAYMENT
33 MOS 12K MI 428 MONTH INCLUDES TAX
2012 C300 Sport
MSRP with options: 43,370
Invoice Per Edmunds: 40,396
KBB fair value: 39,393
Miles: 10K
Term: 33 months
Down: 0
Trade-in: No
Monthly payment: 539/Month
Sales Tax: rolled into lease payments
First payment, including first monthly lease installment: 707
Old lease being replaced: 7 months left at 640/month
Money factor being used: 0.0177
As I discovered, for the purpose of sales tax, it doesnt matter where you buy the car. Matters where you live. so I'm stuck with that extra, being an Illinois resident :-(
Any feedback is welcomed. thanks!
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In fairness, all parts of the deal were good-looking (66% residual and 0.0017 by itself is good and I got a pretty good rebate on the selling price, based on KBB and edmunds guidance; shaking them down for an extra $800 at the end, 2 hours past their closing time) . The other neat part about the deal was that they treated my 7-month early lease return as a trade-in; thereby reducing the amount of ST I was on the hook for by ~2000; which swung the payment by about $60.
But to know that I could've done a whole bunch better will now bug me, atleast for a bit..:-| I hope you're wrong for my sanity sake.
Has any enhancement done by MBUSA for C250 coupes?
Thanks!
What is the risidual and money factor on for May lease on the C300 4Matic Sport for 33 months.
I was going to get an audi A4, but after I test drove it, I changed my mind.
Would you please confirm residual and MF for May for the C250 sport sedan? I believe that the residual is 64% for 33 months - 27,500 miles (10k/year), but not sure about the buy rate on the money factor. Also, please confirm residual assuming 12k miles/year.
Thanks in advance.
my situation: leased a 2008 mb CLK350 coupe, less than 4yrs ago, through a friend at a dealership, MSRP around $52k, 48 mo. lease, total 2k down drive off, 12k miles/yr. 47 payments of $430/mo, tax included. I got it right before they discontinued CLK350, was told that i got a huge discount, so it's a good deal.
Fast forward, 5 payments left on this car, wanna change to a 2012 C250 sedan, but the friend's gone, have to find a new dealership by myself. I don't expect the same kind of good deal, but I expect less downpayment and about same or even less monthly payment.
Went to a new dealership, played hard ball back and forth, eventually, they agreed to take back the clk, put me in this c250 sedan, MSRP $45290, but it's $1400 to drive off, 33mo. lease, 10k miles/yr., and 32 payments of $460 tax included. They say no more room for negotiation, that's it. They even show me the screen, saying they took a loss, which i highly doubt it. Anyway, the number that I remembered on the computer screen is a residual value 64%, and a money factor of 0.00073, or maybe only two zeros? They say they can't do anything about those two numbers, it's set by the bank. Is that really??
Anyway, one thing i know for sure, is that my monthly payment is up for a car with less msrp. To make things even more complicated, they put me on a 2yr service plan, which is $10 per month. All in all, my monthly payment ends up a little over $470.
When I got home, I googled money factor, and found this forum and a online calculator, When I put the numbers from my lease into the calculator, it gives me a whopping 3.7%APR. Now I'm totally confused. Did i just make a bad deal? My brother told me when he leased his ford sedan during a promotion, he got APR less than 1%. Maybe I'm comparing apple to orange here.
Anyone can explain the situation here? I put as much info as possible about my lease here, hopefully some experts here can give some inside analysis. Thanks in advance.
C250 Sedan with P1, lighting, multimedia, sport sedan, keyless, etc. sticker price $45290.
agreed value $39102.7
gross capitalized cost $40616.7
capitalized cost reduction $476.41
adjusted capitalized cost $40140.29
residual value 29381.76
Depreciation amortized amounts 10758.53
Rent Charge $3510.34
Total base monthly payment 14268.87
Lease payment 33
Base Monthly Pament 432.39
Sales tax 37.83
Total monthly 470.22
Mileage allowance $27500, acquisition fee $895, charge for maintenance agreement $619
amount due at signing $1400.
I'm wondering if the following is a good deal for a C300
Premium 1 and Mulitmedia; $44,510 MSRP
$2,200 fees, taxes, registration all in to drive out the door, including first lease payment
$425/month including taxes
What do you think?
Sorry, I should add 33 months and 12,000 miles.
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Did you qualify for any incentive like Employee program or Conquest discount?
Looks like a very good deal.
Did you qualify for any incentive ?
Thanks.
C300 4MATIC sedan, 44k MSRP.
24 Month lease, 10k miles, $411 per month with $1998 down including first payment. I live in NYC.
I am planning to lease C250 in near future. The one that I like have following config -
Palladium silver / MB Tex
P1 package
Light package
single COMAND disk package
RV camera
18" AMG alloy wheels
spoiler and chrome handle inserts
MSRP - $44,500
Gross Cap cost : $39470 (38375 + 1095)
down - $2500
Payments : $407 for 33 months , 10K miles....
What do you guys think ? worth it ?
Thanks
NPS
NEt
I went in as a AAA/COSTCO member and asked what they can do over these discounts....I tried getting maintenance also included in the payment but they did not agree.
Hopefully I will lease it this weekend.
Thanks again.
NPS
33 months/12k per year
State: Pennsylvania (9% lease tax rate)
MSRP: $44,510
Price: $39,613.05
Acq. Fee: $995
Prior Loan Balance: $1,557.32 (neg. eq from trade).
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Total Due at Signing (incluidng first month's payment) $673.42
32 Payments Remaing of: $536.92