I have the FWD Santa Fe with ABS and TCS. I live in Utah on a fairly steep hill and we've had plenty of Olympic snow this year. No problems getting anywhere with the SF, and you get better pick-up and gas mileage with FWD. Unless you'll be driving constantly through fairly deep snow, I don't think the extra $$ is worth it. ABS and TCS seems to be plenty.
Thanks hyundaima for those 2 web sites. I printed out the information for my records.
Question:
Under "Service Notes" it mentions that the two differentials and transfer case must be checked for lubricant levels. Do you think the average mechanic would know to this properly if told to...or should the Santa Fe be taken to the dealer for the check up?
Thanks for any advice.
Saul
P.S. Thanks for past advice on the transmission fluid.
I have a 2002 silver Santa Fe 4wd lx loaded with 2650 miles on it. I am thinking of buying the hood deflector from Hyundai,it is only $55.00. Does anyone have any feedback about the deflector positive or negative. Years ago I had one on my Chevy Blazer and when driving on the highway you would get annoying whistle sound.
I have the new car bug and may be someone can kill it.My 98 Coupe is 4 years old and I was thinking of the 2002 CRV but they are adding $1000 markup to them plus limited availability.I drove one and like it.Over a year ago I drove the SF and felt it sluggish.I see the SF V6 advertised for $2000 off of msrp and that would be a lot less than a CRV.I have owned Acuras for years so I am spoiled for quality.Would I be disappointed getting the SF?
You would be more than happy with the SF. We test drove SF vs CRV, and the SF is much more vehicle than the 2002 CRV at the same or much price. They were asking over MSRP on an EX ( No leather!)and a 3 month wait. Build quality so far is as good as the CRV. As for 2000 off MSRP, no way. They only mark up about 1300-1500 from invoice. You might want to check that sticker. We went to one dealer that added on $2000 for, get this.. window etching, and pinstripes. And the kicker was the SF didn't have any pinstripes on it!! needless to say we laughed at this when the salesperson was there, and walked away, and bought elsewhere. No way would I buy from a dealer who started out like that.
A local Hyundai dealership is selling 2002 Santa Fe's at dealer invoice. This kind of surprised me. In other words, a 02 GLS 2WD with ABS, floor mats, roof rack, cargo organizer would be around $19,500 at invoice.
I had a 97 CR-V for 4 years when I traded it in for a Santa Fe V6 AWD. No disappointment in quality either build quality or design. The AWD system on the Santa Fe is vastly superior to what Honda use's.
Cosair, we just bought a SF, and we that too was our biggest worry. I can't tell you for certain, how well the warrenty work is, or how well the quality will stand up. Its all a gamble anyway. I have had toyotas in the past that were piles, and the warrenty wasn't worth the paper it was written on. Not because of Toyota, but because the local dealer was a [non-permissible content removed]. My best advice, is go to the dealership, and talk to the service manager. Ask him if he's had any problems with warrenty work for Hyundai. Also get a feeling if you like him. If he's a jerk, and not helpful, then maybe look elsewhere. We got lucky, and the service manager at the dealership we bought from, seems to be a really nice guy who cares about his work.
Also one other thing, Hyundai's sales have gone through the roof, so they are making lots of money. this means that they will be more likely to honor their warrenties than if they were having to fight for their lives, and count every dollar. JMHO.
The warrenty looks great on paper, but can you collect on it? Have you had to use it alot?
We are very close to buying a LX, but the unknowns about this company and the long term service and quality are holding us back.
How has your experience been? Are the 2002 much better than the 2001 like the dealers say? Are the bugs out?
This is a very big decision for my family, we will never be able to afford the $30k SUV's and the used ones we buy for $10k are always breaking down. The Sante Fe looks like the answer...is it?
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dealer does not know at what speed the tcs can work to. i ask because my acura has tcs and only operates to 18 mph. maybe the santa fe has a different system does anyone have info on this
I bought a 2001 Santa Fe LX. I have had it for 15 months it has performed perfectly in every way.
I have had one instance where I used the warranty, the plastic cover that covers the bolts that hold the roof rack, one of them blew off while I was on a trip. The dealer replaced them promptly.
Irchome, I just lost that cover yesterday in a carwash dryer cycle. It just blew off and broke the tabs that (kind of) hold it on. Did your dealer give you a hassle about it? It will be our first glitch...other than a violent car wreck...in 7k miles.
I wish we had gotten the car rackless after seeing the interior bike rack setup hyundai offers. We have never even had our crossbars on and the rack is just a noise generator and gas user.
Here Santa Fe SUVs are filling the lot's and they are dealing.I got an internet quote of $300 over invoice.I even took a test drive with a salesman and he said he would knock $1000 of list without any hesitation.As far as the vehicle goes it is rock solid and well built.The only negative is two things.The engine doesn't have a lot of low in torque so take offs are slow and the front end looks like a large mouth bass.I have an Acura with VTEC engine and only 4 cylinders but it will burn rubber with an automatic tranny.Does Honda have a patent on VTEC?
I was just checking customer ratings on Car Point. The Santa Fe comes out with 9.1 overall, 9.3 Recommendation; the highest of all SUV'S I've checked there; higher than CR-V, Highlander, MDX, BMW X5, Forester, etc...
For those of you who still hesitate due to the old Hyundai reputation that is something to consider...
The Santa Fe is surprising a lot of people. In addition to carpoint, it took top of its class (small Ute) at autopacific.com and astoundingly placed #34 on their list of all brands and models tested! There are a lot of very well regarded names on the list below the S/F. Its making a good showing on Consumerreview.com as well.
Bob Lutz, currently head of product development at GM, who was beside Iokoa when Chrysler was rescued, said last August that Hyundai was the greatest single threat to current US market share. Hyundai later ended 2001 with a 40+%gain for the year in unit sales. I guess he called it!
I just purchased a 2002 Santa Fe GLS, and I am very pleased with this SUV. Everone I have showed it to, likes it. They all say it rides like a car-not a truck. It's bigger than a Jeep Liberty, and the ride is better.
seen a post on here from hung0280(the #'s might be wrong but his nickname started with hung) for a long time. Yes, the same hung who had every accessory know to man on his Santa Fe. His Santa Fe is white and he lived in the SF Bay area. Remember him? He used to post here weekly and provided early Santa Fe prospective buyers with loads of enthusiasticly-given information. I learned a lot from him. I drive a Kia Sportage but follow the Hyundai Santa Fe forum here at Edmunds because it's my 2nd favorite SUV. Now Kia is making a new SUV that will compete with Santa Fe called Sorento. It looks awesome. There's plenty of excitement from these two Korean makers right now. AAMOF-Kia, Hyundai and Daewoo are it in autos right now for me. The others are a blip on the radar screen.
I believe they stopped posting here due the their perception of being bashed when they posted on other boards. They did provide a very enthusiastic support for the Sante Fe but apparently have decided not to frequent this sight any longer.
I have been following this board since its inception. Seriously thinking of getting a 2002 Santa Fe 2WD 4 cyl with option package 3 ABS. Is a quote of 19,300 fair? Reside in NE PA.
That price for pmartinez (#3139) may be good. I had to go three hundred miles just to get under MSRP! I live in north central Florida and my SF was delivered on January 20th. Apparently the San Diego market for Hyundais is saturated. Lucky San Diegoites - San Diagoans? San De... Well you get the idea. =;-)
Those vehicles built between 07/00 through 02/01 are subject to the recall. If you are wondering when your SF was built, open the driver's door and look down and to the right for a small plate showing the manufactured date.
The dates of the recall are March 2000 to February 2001. So all the Santa Fe's built in the 10 months of 2000 and the 2 months of 2001, are being recalled.
Thanks to everyone for keeping this forum a valuable, useful and enjoyable resource.
Would anyone know how many Santa Fe's have actually stalled due to this CPS problem? (50? 100? 200?)
And would anyone have an idea as to why the NHTSA would issue a recall for this CPS sensor problem and not issue a recall for the other problem... of 290 Santa Fe Engines failing due to cylinder liners cracking or slipping inside the block as discussed on this forum and in the following article:
I think the Crankshaft Position Sensor recall will cover those 290 SF that were mentioned in the Orange County Register since the pistons are attached to the crankshaft. If the sensor is defective then crankshaft and pistons could become out of alignment causing stalling and engine block damage.
I am leaning toward the CRV cause of quicker acceleration.Here internet prices are msrp and sticker prices are +$1000 for CRV.It will cost me $22700 for CRV EX dealing with internet rep. It will cost me $21500 plus $1000 for moonroof. The low end torque of the VTEC Honda makes for spirited driving whereas the low torque at low rpms of Santa Fe makes for leisurely starts.Incidentally the Santa Fe I am talking about is LX model and the CRV is the EX.
I just want to nicely let you know that you are very wrong in your explaination. The loose sleeves problem of the early V6 have nothing to do with the position sensor problem.
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all wheel drive and anti lock brakes. my dealer wants more than list!
-Jason
Question:
Under "Service Notes" it mentions that the two differentials and transfer case must be checked for lubricant levels. Do you think the average mechanic would know to this properly if told to...or should the Santa Fe be taken to the dealer for the check up?
Thanks for any advice.
Saul
P.S. Thanks for past advice on the transmission fluid.
http://www.hmaservice.com/webtech/iindex.asp?id=394877866#_394877866
http://www.hmaservice.com/webtech/
Thanks Jim
markup to them plus limited availability.I drove one and like it.Over a year ago I drove the SF
and felt it sluggish.I see the SF V6 advertised
for $2000 off of msrp and that would be a lot less than a CRV.I have owned Acuras for years
so I am spoiled for quality.Would I be disappointed getting the SF?
I don't think you're gonna get a new SF at $2k off of MSRP. Better read the small print in that ad. =;-)
As for 2000 off MSRP, no way. They only mark up about 1300-1500 from invoice. You might want to check that sticker. We went to one dealer that added on $2000 for, get this.. window etching, and pinstripes. And the kicker was the SF didn't have any pinstripes on it!! needless to say we laughed at this when the salesperson was there, and walked away, and bought elsewhere. No way would I buy from a dealer who started out like that.
Is there a "catch" I should be looking for?
Also one other thing, Hyundai's sales have gone through the roof, so they are making lots of money. this means that they will be more likely to honor their warrenties than if they were having to fight for their lives, and count every dollar. JMHO.
We are very close to buying a LX, but the unknowns about this company and the long term service and quality are holding us back.
How has your experience been? Are the 2002 much better than the 2001 like the dealers say? Are the bugs out?
This is a very big decision for my family, we will never be able to afford the $30k SUV's and the used ones we buy for $10k are always breaking down. The Sante Fe looks like the answer...is it?
Thanks in advance for your help!
Steve
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Please share...my concerns on this area are the only thing holding me back from buying one.
I have had one instance where I used the warranty, the plastic cover that covers the bolts that hold the roof rack, one of them blew off while I was on a trip. The dealer replaced them promptly.
I wish we had gotten the car rackless after seeing the interior bike rack setup hyundai offers. We have never even had our crossbars on and the rack is just a noise generator and gas user.
and he said he would knock $1000 of list without
any hesitation.As far as the vehicle goes it is
rock solid and well built.The only negative is two things.The engine doesn't have a lot of low in torque so take offs are slow and the front end looks like a large mouth bass.I have an Acura with
VTEC engine and only 4 cylinders but it will burn
rubber with an automatic tranny.Does Honda have a patent on VTEC?
For those of you who still hesitate due to the old Hyundai reputation that is something to consider...
Bob Lutz, currently head of product development at GM, who was beside Iokoa when Chrysler was rescued, said last August that Hyundai was the greatest single threat to current US market share. Hyundai later ended 2001 with a 40+%gain for the year in unit sales. I guess he called it!
It's bigger than a Jeep Liberty, and the ride is better.
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
Seriously.
I wonder what happened?
If the visors attach to the doors - wouldn't they be 'door visors'? =;-) Anyhow, why don'cha try http://www.nordleth.com/hyundai.cfm?Make=Hyundai
or
http://www.macneil.com/store/vehsearch.asp
GLS V6 with ABS.
Seems a recall is coming for 2001 V-6. Crankshaft position sensor failure can result in engine stalls.
>Not all the 2001's are being recalled. Just the ones made between 07/01 and 02/01.
>=======================
Wanna try those dates again? =;-)
2001. So all the Santa Fe's built in the 10 months of 2000 and the 2 months of 2001, are being recalled.
Would anyone know how many Santa Fe's have actually stalled due to this CPS problem? (50? 100? 200?)
And would anyone have an idea as to why the NHTSA would issue a recall for this CPS sensor problem and not issue a recall for the other problem... of 290 Santa Fe Engines failing due to cylinder liners cracking or slipping inside the block as discussed on this forum and in the following article:
http://www.ocregister.com/news/hyundai00108cci1.shtml
All vehicles have some problems, and its a forum like this that helps us keep our cars safe to be on the road.
Thanks again to all.
If I am wrong, please let me know nicely.
acceleration.Here internet prices are msrp and
sticker prices are +$1000 for CRV.It will cost me
$22700 for CRV EX dealing with internet rep.
It will cost me $21500 plus $1000 for moonroof.
The low end torque of the VTEC Honda makes for
spirited driving whereas the low torque at low rpms of Santa Fe makes for leisurely starts.Incidentally the Santa Fe I am talking about is LX model and the CRV is the EX.