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2009 BMW 335i, 2003 Corvette cnv. (RIP 2001 Jaguar XK8 cnv and 1985 MB 380SE [the best of the lot])
Any others experienced this?
I'm coming off a 328i coupe lease. I had no trouble running that car on mid-grade gas. I'm thinking of getting a 335i and wonder whether the turbo will run well with mid-grade or if I have to use premium to avoid damage or pinging. I'm not a lead-foot but I do want to enjoy the turbo.
Thanks for any insight from 335i owners.
You're kidding, right? :surprise:
Probably not... :sick:
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2020 C43; 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i; 2018 330i xDrive
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
The money he saves in gas will pay for the iPod adapter in 6 years. Smart thinking!
Besides all that, you kill the very thing you bought the car for---the strong performance.
Maybe a 328 was the car to buy in this case?
It's like, would you really put a set of Firestone bias plys on as a replacement because they are cheaper - ?!?!!
You wouldn't believe how some people try to cheap out on repairs and maintenance. I know some morons who take their 911 or M3 to Jiffy Lube.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2020 C43; 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i; 2018 330i xDrive
Looks like time has proved me right. Within months BMW added (and also retrofitted) oil coolers to these twin-turbo engines.
They also changed the oil temp display from a max temp of 300 to 340--that way the gauge wouldn't be maxed out when it read 300 . . .
I presume that between the two changes it was enough to avoid the limp-home mode for most folks as you don't hear much about it.
Interestingly, with the upgraded (if temporary) boost on the 335is model for 2011, they've also gone to the major expense of adding a SECOND radiator circuit to the left side wheel well, in addition to the a much larger radiator fan for the primary radiator. Look like these cars were at the limit of their cooling system performance with the original upgrades, and were originally insufficiently equipped when introduced for the 2007 model year . . . .
Just thought you'd like to know.
I had this 335i twin turbo auto/nonsport without radiator and live in south Florida. Never overheated or limped in 3 years 100 degree heat and race to each red light....
Apparently, Dewey hasn't logged on to CarSpace since January, so I doubt that he'll see your response.
But, I stopped by my local BMW dealership, near Irvine, in hopes of being inspired. Dissappointment in what I saw did not cease from the moment I arrived. Not a single manual on the lot, nor in the country as I would want one. I would have to order it and it would take at least 6 weeks to get it. (MSports sedan, Premium, manual, black interior, aluminum trim, premium speakers, and white or blue exterior) An equally equipped 3 with the exact same features, would run not $43k otd (which is what I paid in 08), but probably closer to $48k if not more. One new option, that I would seriously consider, is a 3 with MSports package mainly due to the shorter shift knob, however I really don't like the M Steering wheel. It is too thick. One can't easilly make a U turn in a parking lot using one hand. WHY have they made the steering wheel so thick? Anyway, I was kinda bumbed out.
Joseph
Irvine
I remember when the 'new' mustang was released I was at an auto-cross event (as a drop-in...driving a relatives car). A new mustang was driven by a good driver...and did surprisingly well (beat me).
I always thought they were clumsy...sloppy handling cars; not so here (sounded great too)
So order it, if that's what you want. I keep my cars for a long time, so I don't mind waiting a few extra weeks for a car that's equipped to my exact specifications.
I'm not in the market at the moment, but if I were, I'd go for a 328i with the sport package & nothing else.
I'd go with a 128i. Equipped the way I want(no sunroof, manual seats, M Sport, Cold Weather, Convenience, and H-K) it would have an MSRP of around 36K.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2020 C43; 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i; 2018 330i xDrive
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
not an N55...
http://www.bimmerfile.com/2010/10/12/new-details-emerge-on-the-1m/
"HaVe you thought of putting your name on a list for a 1 series M? I'm sure you know Joseph that the N54 Twin Turbo engine in your departed 335i is now a single scroll turbo N55 making the same hp/torque numbers. "
Sounds good, but I can't warm up to the 1. Here in the NYC metro area, it's become something of an affluent chick's car - something that Daddy will buy for you if you make dean's list. Too bad. It's not the car's fault.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
Just built my own 328i Sedan. I saw a Vermillion Red 328i Xdrive coupe today that was very sexy. With the aforementioned Vermillion Red paint, black leatherette, sport pkg, iPod, Sirius, Moonroof, Bluetooth, Xenon, & Smart Phone Integration the MSRP swells to $41,225! Looks like I'm going to stick with the Prelude for a few more years until I can save some more dough:)
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
I believe the difference between sports pkg and m sports pkg is only $500. Even so, the minimal price delta between an 08 335 and 11 335 is at least 4k. (I'm talking otd incl tax, registration & doc fee). I've considered the 1M by the way, which will have a souped up N45 like the 335is. To me, both the 1M and 335is offer too little over a 335i, come too late relative to the up and comming 2012 335 sedan, and cost too much considering you might as well get the M3. They look like some sort of gimmick dreamed up by BMW marketing team. It is rummered that significant effort is being put into making the new 3 series lighter. This diminishes further, the whole point of the 1M IMO. It's clear that the 1M is more of a souped up 135 than a new 1 series. The 1M will have limited production as well, making people pay premium. You know, I don't like the steering wheel on the 1M by the way, too thick IMO, nor the steering feel of the M3 which is why I look mainly at a 335i sedan with regular sports package (which now comes with the old coupe's sports wheels). A down side to the 2011 335i coupe with sports package, is that now, it comes with some really boring looking wheels as one can see on bmwusa.com! My gosh, it is so obvious that BMW wants people to get the MSports for the 3coupe.
The 1 series interior/exterior is sub-par compared to the 3 and I doubt that even the 1M will be better. Plus, they're supposed to reduce 3Series weight soon, and it makes more sense to wait for this. I am anxious to read more reviews for the 1M when it comes out. Like I said, in the meantime, I'm diggin my Mustang GT.
I paid about 30.5k out the door including extended warranty and full 100k maintaince, as well as ford racing parts suspenssion upgrade installed!
The new 5.0 Stang costs at least 4k more than the old one from what I see.
I'm happy with the older Stang since I expect no surprises in terms of reliability, the engine has been in production for nearly a decade. The Stang offers the absolute best bang for the buck in this economy, there's nothing that touches it. My tires are about worn out now after nearly 30k already, so I'm looking forward to upgrading to Eagle F1 Asymmetrics :shades:
I can only imagine how awesome the 2011 is - it's actually the first American car in many years that I would consider owning.
On the other hand, I recently had the opportunity to get an extended test drive in an M3 - a proper one with 3 pedals. After the drive, I was ready to write a check on the spot - it's that good. It's the sport sedan that Porsche would build if they were inclined to build a sport sedan. I loved it.
I've read about the 1M and really like the idea of it - I do think it's more than just a tarted up 135i, but the more I think on it, the more I'm convinced I don't like turbocharged engines. I've driven the 335i as well as the Audi A4 and no matter how quickly they claim to spool up, they just don't have the throttle response of a proper NA engine. Sucks the fun right out.
Turbos are great for piston airplanes, but unless you live in Denver or Albuquerque, they don't belong in sports cars. That's my $0.02.
Agreed, my Mazdaspeed is borderline quick, but the power delivery can't hold a candle to a well designed NA motor. I'm looking to dump it for an E46 M3 or E39 M5...
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2020 C43; 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i; 2018 330i xDrive
E46's are downright cheap right now. Next to the E30, they're my favorite 3 Series.
I've never driven an E39, but the 540i is also a great choice. I remember on a club drive a few years ago a guy following me in a 540i and he was on my bumper like crazy glue. His grip didn't surprise me as my M3 doesn't have tons of it, but his E39 was a monster powering out of corners. I asked him about his car later and he told me the horsepower gap between a 540i and M5 is basically closed with an aftermarket airbox (2 airboxes, actually) and a chip.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
A dealer in Chicago had a 2004 with a Brembo big brake kit, Dinan Stage 1 suspension, 4:10 rear gears, and Euro headers/cats. And, as icing on the cake, it had cloth manual seats and no sunroof. It sold the day before I was supposed to look at it...
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2020 C43; 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i; 2018 330i xDrive
That's a car someone has to special order and put a hefty deposit on because the dealer is scared to get stuck with it.
Sounds like a nice car - just the way I'd order one. And with some tasteful and thoughtful mods (there are way too many E46's with 20" wheels, wings, and 2" drops). Too bad you missed out on it.
A 335i has way more power, especially down low, than my IS350...not until I wring it out to 4K rpm.
Even if you take a lower level vehicle, like a VW 2.0T compared to a TSX 4cyl. The power output is similar but I like the feel of the 2.0T.
For me anyway...it's almost a reversal of the 80's turbos...the NA engines feel mediocre below 3500 rpm, and the turbos have all the torque.
It maybe a combination of the electronics getting in the way (as in my IS350) and heavier vehicles...but all things being equal, I'd take the blown engine.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
What was the result, what did they find? I girlfriends 07 335i just went up in flames at a stop light. Id be intereested to hear what BMW had to say
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2020 C43; 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i; 2018 330i xDrive