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Also, towards the 2/3 of the movement of the window the engine shudders/vibrates in a detectable way - is it trying to make up some more power for the electrical engines that push/pull the windows?
The Sandman
The Sandman
Let me guess, it bucks out ever-so-slightly, right?
Normal to me; our Chrysler and Hondas have done this. Never caused a problem (no rattles, nothing)
I took it to the dealer and he said this is by design all honda civics do that, mine is a canadian version.
His explanation is that defroster or air conditioner draws power and that is why you see the flickering but this is very annoying and very noticeable?
Is this true that it is happening in all new civics more or less than mine?
I will appreciate any help in this regards.
In the mean time I am thinking of taking it to another dealership for another opinion and if that does not rectify it will call Honda Canada.
But if anybody else is experiencing this please let me know.
Thanks in advance.
My 06 LX was canadian built and had many issues, 2 of which were solved by the belt replacement kit and motor mount.
I do hear of people with 07's having some of the problems of that 06's had.
Instead of looking for TSB's do you have issues with your car? If not don't worry about TSB's unless you have problems or start to have them. If you no noises and or problems, enjoy the car.
Emmermann:
I have noticed on many occassions just how bad the horn is on the 06 I have. I would also love to change the horn, how hard was it and how much did you new horn cost??
Does anyone have a copy of the TSB regarding the Lug Bug. I need this PDF because American Honda Motor Company has requested ALLDATA to deny access to Acura and Honda repair information, and my dealer always said that the car is good.
Thanks
I was very unhappy with my civic but since the belt was replaced and the mount replaced I like the car better but still might trade in mid 07 as my glass is till an issue.
Make sure you car falls into the vin range before you show them the TSB.
I will try and find that one for you as well.
I am one of those whom are not totally thrilled with my civic but the belt replacement and mount fix has made more car more livable.
My doors on the inside are very scratched, my seats as well are wearing funny,etc.
My main point was these fixes take away some of my agitation but overall I am still not the happiest camper as I feel a new car should not need a motor mount replaced, etc etc.
Both Honda and Toyota are suffering from "quantity over quality" issues as they strive to grow larger.
Honda's from the 80's and mid 90's had much better fit and finish.
Korean manufacturers are either equal or now surpassing other car companies with superior products. They say koreon cars are the new Japanese cars. I would never bash a current Hyundai as they are now great cars at a very good price.
Hyundai parts though are very expensive just keep that in mind. I know this for a fact from an auto body shop friend I have.
Also, I have previously owned 2 Hyundai Santa Fe's plus my son owns a 2000 Elantra (150K miles) and daughter has a 2003 Elantra. Didn't spend anything on either Santa Fe (no repairs except digital clock display went blank at times on the 03..replaced while there for a state inspection) The 2000 Elantra has had no unusual repairs either other than a replaced alternator last fall. I lied, the exhaust manifold and cat converter is one piece and it has cracked twice, both times replaced under an extended warranty. So having had nothing but good experiences with Hyundai has prompted this decision. Sad to say this experience with Honda has soured my first experience with the brand.
It's happening on and off, so most of the time things are fine. But anywhere to once every few weeks to once every few days, I turn the key and the engine cranks but won't start. Sometimes, it finally starts when I give up and turn the key back to the "ON" position. Other times, I try a second time and it starts, but weakly.
Is this happening to anyone else?
The car is going to the shop next week to see what's going on. But this is exactly what I was hoping to avoid by buying a Honda.
Try searching for your Honda TSB at http://www.iamsam.com/tsb.aspx
The last time I looked, they were still offering Honda TSBs for sale. You can sign up for a free account and search for the TSB to make sure it is available before buying. They charge just $2 to buy an individual TSB.
With regards to warped front rotors, a person is suppose to use their parking brake at least once a day. Rear drum brakes are kept in adjustment by using the parking brake.
If one does not use the parking brake regularly, the rear drums can become out of adjustment and when you hit the brake the brake pads do not come into contact with the rear drum. This makes the front brakes work much harder and get much hotter thus the warping.
This happened in my wifes 05 corolla until she started using the emergency brake every day.
Skeeter11
I have not noticed this noise/sound, however, if the car run fines don't worry about. If you notice any change in the way the car runs, bring it in.
Have you had any luck in determining the cause?
I read and heard it has to do with fuel pressure and the computer.
I always wait a few seconds and never have staring problems.
If I just put the key and turn immediately, I have starting problems.
I think I found one in my 07 EX AT sedan. I usually have a drink whenever I'm driving and started to realize my pop or water would get warm really quickly. One day I dropped some change into the cup holders and realized the cup holders themselves were really warm/almost hot, esp. the one up front. Has anyone else noticed this or is it just my car. My past several cars, the cup holders have been integrated into the center console which moved so they were not fixed to floor. I can't recall if I had this issue with any cars I've owned with cup holders in a similiar location/design. :confuse:
There is a TSB with regards to wind noise at highway speeds on the 4 door civics.
There is a piece of weatherstripping that goes along the length of the window. It is suppose to go all the way to the end where the mirror is but it does not on some cars. There is a little gap there. This gap along with the design of the mirror causes a pressure to build up and causes a whistle or wind noise.
Most dealerships are aware of this TSB and you can go check behind your side mirrors, see if the black weather stripping goes to the end behind the mirror and look for a small gap or space. They install a small piece of foam like material with an adhesive back that fills the gap and removes the wind noise.
ajbcho,
With regards to the cup holders being warmed. There is a known issue with some cars. Under the cup holder is an air duct. This duct does not seat correctly on the point it attaches to or it comes loose. I have seen photos of it on other forums (8thgencivic.com) where people had to make their own fixes to keep the duct on the point it connects to and that solve the problem. It seems like a pain in the butt to fix. There is not TSB I know of yet for this.
My LX sedan does not have this problem yet but any big bump can cause the duct to come loose from what the photos show.
My previous car was a Civic and it had no such problems. Why would a brand new car have starting issues? At this point, it's happening to me every few days.
There's a long thread about this on another civic forum.
Go to link title then scroll down to "Starting Issue/Ignition Issue."
Was a really easy fix. Took me about 10 actual minutes to get the screw in to hold the 2 pieces...but it took about 40 minutes total.
Some notes for anyone trying to do this.
-Not much room in there for big hands.
-Have a small screw driver, did I mention it's really tight in there?
-If not working outside have a flashlight.
-Be very careful not to drop anything.
-I lost my 1st set of washer and screw. I found the screw, washer is rolling around somewhere in the console.
-I lost my phillips bit. Thought I was in the clear after I got my 2nd set of washer and screw in. As I pull the driver away. There goes my bit. I now have a washer and bit rolling around in my console.
-I have 3 more nice looking scratches on the plastic. Plastic in car don't seem very durable, I barely touched the pieces.
kero1, at least for mine. I fitted the pieces together and LIGHTLY tapped the bottom piece, it fell off completely. Tried a few times to force the issue and the 2 pieces just won't stay put. We have alot of potholes where I live. I'm guessing this was what caused mine to pop off. Thanks again for pointing me to fix!
I might have to do this one day to, how did you get off the cup holder to get underneath.
I forgot where on the other forum the post was, hehehe.
If possible, please email the link to the post so I can book mark it for future potholes.
You don't have to get under the cup holders. The duct is right under the little chubby/storage/AUX input. Just pull up the silver plastic cover for the shifter and then remove the bigger black housing under that and it's right there.
1983 Accord (my first Honda)-- zero problems,60K miles
1990 Civic - new struts @140k miles!!
1997 CRV - zero problems -- 30K miles
2001 Acura CL - transmission replaced @ 23K miles
2003 S2000 - squeaking front strut @ 20K miles
2004 S2000 - zero problems -- 12K miles
2005 Acura TL - faded dash, suspension squeaks, numerous rattles, collapsing head liner
2006 Civic - before 9K miles the drivers side fr. struts replaced TWICE, rear suspension noise, "lug bug" issue, interior that scratches just by looking at it!
I was so upset with this Civic that I traded it in this weekend for a leftover 2006 Mazda6 s Grand Sport. With over $9,000 in dealer discounts, rebates, Auto Show coupon and Mazda Finance money I paid a little over $20,000 for it. For less $$$ than a Civic SI sedan I got a beautifully assembled car with a V6, 6spd. auto.,leather/heated seats, Bose/Sirius audio, beautiful 18" wheels, a 4yr./50K new car warranty.
The 2 good things I can say about the Civic is it's trade in value was only $2000 less than I paid for it last year and the mpg was very good. But I will not miss that car. C'mon Honda, get your act together! :mad:
I've found cases on other websites where this is happening on several Honda vehicles and in one case it has happened twice to the same vehicle/owner in less than a year.
Please help. I can't afford to pay this kind of repair bill on something that is apparently a bigger problem with Honda.
My research told me Honda was a quality car but I am very much regretting this purchase. Honda customer no service has been as useless as a hot beer on an even hotter day.
Your best bet is to get a regional manager involved and you know they saying, "You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar". Sometimes finding the write service manager can also make a huge difference. Try more than one dealership.
With regards to the rear rattle, I have heard many different reasons from the rear deck, seat belt mounts, a window that was not seated correctly on the rear of the car, etc etc. I would open a case with Honda Care and request a field manager to get down and look at your car for both issues.
Sorry to hear about your problems. Most of us here have had some or many problems with our new civics so you are not alone.
With regards to your problem, civics are not really the best car to carry 4 people in. The engines get very taxed and I believe the handling would be comprised as the rear weight plus a light front end would yeild in a car that might feel squirrely on the highway or at higher speeds.
The civic new front end is very light and any major weight in the back would cause the front end to not have as much contact with the road as should be.
I don't agree with honda as the car is a 4 door sedan and should be stable under most circumstances.
During the summer when my wife and I go camping with alot of weight in the trunk (such as wood and gear), the car on the highway definately does not feel as stable as my previous 05 subaru impreza.
I plan on trading this spring/summer my 06 LX civic, maybe for an Element or back to subaru.
Keep us posted and I hope you can get your issues solved. Call up the Honda Care Corporate line. Report the issues and problems and insist on a field manager to look at your car at a dealership and maybe drive with 4 people in the car and let him drive the car.
Your best bet is to contact Honda Corporate Care line, document your case withe the rep. They will open a case. At that time, they normally advise to go to a dealership (in your area most of the time) that they deal with. They normall contact the dealership ahead of time and discuss the problems. Most times the dealership takes this seriously and takes care of the problems if they exist (only stated because they always think people are stupid about cars)
If at that point you don't get the assistance you need you call back the number and elevate the case to the next step which at that point the regional or field manager is normally called to meet you at the dealership with your car and the service manager to go over the issues/problems. If they don't do this, INSIST ON IT!!!
Just my advise. Be patient with the process because slow and steady wins the race. With the honda case open, you have more on your side then just going to a dealership that is not helpfull!
I'm grateful to know at least somebody can guide me in the right direction. Much thanks. Have a blessed day. fp
I think we get upset with problems because we paid extra money to buy a Honda (compared to Dodge, Chevy, Hyundai, etc.) We expected zero defects and superior reliability, after all that's how Honda earned its reputation.
Your best bet is the dealer where you purchased the car. I was told they have the most leverage with Honda Corporate.
Unfortunately you will probably have to live with the issue or take a major loss & trade it in. We tried to make a deal with our Odyssey & trade-up one model year and the dealer wouldn't work with us. He gave us the same deal as the average Joe off the street.