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I have 2007 Pilot 4WD, 26k miles only, less than 3 yrs old. Two tires are worn out on outside. Dealer telling me I have bad alignment, and I need to replace all 4 tires for $800+ total. Does this sound reasonable?
I have my tires rotated every other oil change (every 10k mi). But I do not recall going for alignment. How often should I go for tire rotation? wheel alignment?
Thanks in advance!
If it only on the outside of two tires, sounds like there is indeed an alignment problem. If it is the outside and the inside of the tread and the middle of the tire is still pretty good, it may be a tire air pressure problem. (PSI)
Unless they are the "Run Flat" type of tire, I'm thinking $800 to be way too much for the tire replacement. Check with National Tire and Battery (NTB), Kauffman Tire, Sears, etc for tires prices. My Honda dealer said they would match any price. NTB had a price nearly $200 better, and the dealer did reluctantly match it!
If they are the "run flat" tires, they will be more expensive. Not sure how many tire manufacturers make the "Run Flats", but my understanding is that real special attention is necessary to mount them properly. Especially on a Pilot.
I rotate the tires every !0K or so. Many people rotate more often than that. Some don't rotate at all.
Seems to me that wheel alignment is done during one of Honda's suggested maintenance services. 15K comes to mind. As your Pilot is a 4wd, they will likely align all 4 wheels. Especially if tires are showing an unusual wear pattern.
FWIW tire air pressure can cause unusual wear. Generally speaking, low pressure will generally show up on both the outside edge and the inside edge of the tread of a tire being worn, while the middle of the tread is still good.
Excessive tire pressure will cause the middle of the tread to wear faster than the edges.
On the drivers front door post (Jam) there is a sticker with recommended tire pressure. That pressure will give the best ride, handling and tire wear for the weight of the vehicle and occupants. The tire itself may also have 2 numbers. Example: One of them may say "inflate to 32 PSI cold." The other may say "Maximum pressure 44 PSI. The 32 will likely be more in line with what is printed on the door sticker. The 44 is there to let you know that anything over 44 PSI can blow the tire.
Example 2: If you had a vehicle that the door post recommended a tire pressure of 50 PSI you would not want to use a tire that says 44 PSI maximum pressure.
On the other hand you don't want to put 44 PSI in a tire, when the door post calls for 32 PSI. Reason is that the tire would be so over inflated, for the vehicle weight, that the center of the tire tread would be doing all the work and wear faster than the two edges. With less tread touching the road, you would also loose some handling, lose some traction, and have a much rougher and nosier ride.
Tire pressure should be checked on a regular basis. A tire that is set at 32 PSI when the air temperature is 80 degrees may show as little as 27 PSI when the weather is 30 degrees. And visa versa. So it's real important to adjust the pressure when seasons change.
Kip
Michelin ltx m/s 2
Michelin x radial lt2
Michelin lattitude tour
Do think you'll like the Lat. Tours for general purpose driving, although they are pricey as you prob. already noticed.
Anyway, I love my General Grabber HTS quiet and my steering wheel got looser compared to my Integrity's. I thought i have a problem with my steering fluid at first but now I know why...
My last set of tires, Nokian WR's have lasted me almost 42k.
Before I put those on, I was always a Michelin man.
Do I put another set of the WR's or get the Michelin LT M/S?
As always price is about the same.
Any help would be great.
I have a 2007 Pilot AWD and love how the Sumitomos perform in wet conditions. But, it's time for replacements and I'd like to get some tires that also give me a little better performance in off-road conditions. I don't go "off-roading" per se....but, my hobby has me traveling off the beaten path in areas where there are a lot of rocks, ruts, uneven inclines, etc. Sometimes I feel like the tire isn't "grabbing" as well as a tire could. But, safety when driving in the rain is the higher priority.
Any advice would be WONDERFUL! Thank you, Tanya
I have been shopping for tires myself for my 07 pilot. I always do a lot of research for something I am going to be stuck with for a few years. I search on Tirerack for consumer feed back and ratings and I am split between Firestone destination ATs and Bridgestone Duelers REVO 2.
The destinations rate better but I have heard a lot of good things about the REVO 2, the destinations are rated better and are about $40 less per tire so I might go with them. I will leave feedback after I try them out in snow.
My factory tires were duelers and are noisy as hell, both of these are supposed to be quieter and get better traction in snow and rain
Odie
Looking for recommendations on what will give me the best handling and smooth/quiet highway ride. Any suggestions?
Also, I stay mostly in the Southeast US so snow is not much of a concern.
National Tire and Battery (NTB) is a good source.
Actually I had been by NTB and gotten a written quote. Then I went to Nalley Honda for routine service and asked them to align the front end.
The service writer informed me that it would be best to wait on the alignment because the tires we ready to be replaced, and do it at that time.
I told him I was going to replace them in the next few days. He said they would "Match" any other source. Their initial price was nearly $100 more than NTB. But because I had the NTB paper work in hand, they did match the price. FWIW: There is a sign on the wall stating they will match any tire price on "Like" tires.
Actually I would rather buy them from a dealer. They do the type of balancing and alignment the particular car requires and there won't be any finger pointing if there is a problem.
The Harmony tires actually went on our 03 CR-V. They rode softer, and with less road noise than the Bridgestones they replaced.
Kip
You might be able to file a claim with Goodyear under their mileage warranty. No car manufacturer covers tires under their warranty.
Otherwise hold tight until you reach 2/32 and then contact Goodyear. They'll pro-rate them if they accept them as defective - you'll probably get 25-30% off a new set of tires.
Anyone have any other suggestions for the current generation Pilot?
On a side note, here is a video I shot of some "light" off-roading I did in "The Beast". We went from 450ft elevation up to 1400ft elevation, then down to around 300ft elevation and back. Had a National Guard Humvee that was having trouble with the hill along with us and he couldn't believe how welll the Pilot handled it. Tires make all the difference (and yes I still have the Silent Armors of with 48k on them now.)
Light Off-roading on 2nd Mountain Video
Odie
yours. I would investigate thoroughly.
The Pilot had around 40K miles and the Goodyear Integrity tires still had near 1/2 the tread left.
Ran 32-34 lbs of air and only rotated them a couple of times.
I'm a careful driver and don't wait until the last minute to slam on brakes for stops, don't accelerate hard, and I go around corners on all 4 wheels.
FWIW: Hard driving cost in more ways than just burning excessive fuel.
Kip
Alternatively, you can Google for Miata.net tire size calculator. That will let you play around for equivalent sizes.
regards,
kyfdx
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If you pick rims that have the proper offset (Tirerack has a bunch of choices), then going from 16" X 7" to 17" X 8" should be no problem...
If the stock rims are 16" X 6", then 8" rims might be too wide...
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This is a difficult question to answer because a simple change like this can easily be overwhelmed by difference in the 2 tires in question.
But directionally, going larger in rim diameter generally results in a loss in ride quality, a loss in fuel economy, a loss in wet and snow traction, but a gain in dry traction.
They offer at least a dozen aftermarket wheels in 17" diameter.. widths vary from 7.5" to 8"..
The same year Acura MDX came on 17" wheels... I'd guess those factory alloys are 7.5" in width.
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Most truck and SUV owners here in Socal go with 20's or larger, but this seems too big a rim for any Pilot and has too low of a tire sidewall.
My son recently got his license and I let him take me to this place to show me where his friends go for dirt donuts....he tried it out in my Pilot and said it wasn't as fun because my tires hugged the ground too much, which kept him from sliding around.
The only time my tires lose any traction at all is if I've been driving on rocks & pebbles for a long time at a slow speed. It gives plenty of time for enough of the "just the right sized" rocks to fill in the channels on the tires - but, as sooon as I can get onto a surface that allows me to go a little faster, they clear out. So, I don't have any trouble as long as I keep my speed appropriate to the conditions....which is always a challenge when the Pilot seems to be able to handle so much more than I should even be trying.
I would go with Yokohama
The top-rated tire right now (both at TireRack and at Consumer Reports) is the General Grabber HTS. I have had them on since Spring and they're great. Do NOT buy the OEM tires. Those are just not good - especially in snow.
I had a terrible experience with Yokohama. They were great - until they were at the end of life. Then, I almost wrecked the car on a wet road as the car behaved like it was on ice.
That was in the Texas Hill Country. I'm about to make my 2nd trip to the Big Bend area in Texas with these Silent Armor tires. They have been amazing both on dirt roads & on wet pavement!
Cheers
Tanya
Odie
But if that same tire is sold in the replacement maket, a mileage warranty is built into the price you pay. So even though you may see a mileage warranty published, it applies only to the tire if it is purchased separately. You shouldn't expect to get warranty coverage for wear on the tires that come on new vehicles. If you hear about that happening, it's only done as a courtesy.
So yes, if you get a Pilot with Goodyears brand new, stop at real Goodyear Service Center (multi tire place like NTB) and add the warranty. It will only cost you $12-$15 per tire, but well worth it.
Plus wouldn't you rather have a service dept who specializes in tires do all your tire work instead of a car dealer service who sees so many different things. And know, this will not void your vehicle warranty either.
Odie
You had a good - and unusual - experience. I will state it again - and you can verify this by looking in the glovebox for the tire warranty that came with your new car - OE tires do not carry a mileage warranty. People sometimes get consideration on their OE tires, but many times they don't.
What probably prompted the store to give you consideration was your loyalty. You PURCHASED their warranty and went there regularly. If I was the stiore manager, I would try to keep you as a customer, too.