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  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,663
    have you been partying with ZZ Top, to an excess?

    The Pontiac G8 tops anything Mitsubishi has ever put out?

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • PFFlyer@EdmundsPFFlyer@Edmunds Pennsylvania Furnace, PAPosts: 5,808
    Let's not turn yet another discussion into GM vs the world please. :sick:


    Moderator - Hatchbacks & Hybrid Vehicles

  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,663
    reborn in the U.S.' or not...the answer is a resounding yes. Anybody following the new Outlander and Lancer projects with any wherewithal at all will see that Mitsubishi has their 2007 act tightly together.

    A side bonus of buying a Mitsubishi is Finbarr O'Neill's work of bringing the Hyundai/Kia 10-year, 100,000 mile Warranty to the company.

    If you think about it, a lot of the criticism against Mitsubishi was unfounded and full of baloney. Is it Mitsubishi's fault that loads of buyers were dishonest and defaulted on their loan? Really, those morons that did that hurt themselves and their own credit ratings.

    Mitsubishi and their staff of engineers, research personnel, manufacturing personnel, office and accounting personnel, etc., still have their jobs and are busy at them.

    The dorks that thought it would be so fun to buy a car and then not make their payments are the true losers here, not Mitsubishi.

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • dtownfbdtownfb Posts: 2,915
    <<If you think about it, a lot of the criticism against Mitsubishi was unfounded and full of baloney. Is it Mitsubishi's fault that loads of buyers were dishonest and defaulted on their loan? Really, those morons that did that hurt themselves and their own credit ratings.>>

    Not sure you can absolve Mitsubishi of all blame. They had to know the 0/0/0 sale was going to cause a lot of problems esp. when you are approving people with questionable credit history. And their cars depreciate me in a swimming pool (they don't call me anchor for nothing). Not a good combination. Of course it did sell a lot of cars but look at where they are now. There is a reason other companies are not using this same tactic.

    build good cars at a fair price and have a solid marketing plan and good things will begin to happen.
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,663
    refute the point I just said. Mitsubishi wants to sell cars. Their plan looked attractive to some young, impulsive buyers. Does the fact that they bought cars and defaulted on their loans take away automotive quality from Mitsubishi Motors of Japan? Of course it doesn't!

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • dtownfbdtownfb Posts: 2,915
    I agree that the consumer is ultimately responsible for the loan defaults but Mitsubishi does deserve some blame because they approved some of the buyers who had bad credit. does it mean their cars are bad? No way but you do get a bad reputation. They have to overcome this which means build good cars at a fair price and have a solid marketing plan. Any other shortcut they try to increase sales will kill this company.
  • harrycheztharrychezt Posts: 405
    I attended the Columbus, Ohio International Autoshow this past weekend. I was really not thrilled,because, Mitsubishi's area did not have the new 08 Lancer. They had the 07, but not the new one.

    I have heard first week of March, then last week of March, for launch of the 08 Lancer.
    I spoke to the guy attending the Mitsubishi area, and asked him, "When will the Lancer be released"?
    He told me, "I don't know,no onehas told us 100% for sure, yet"!
    He said at first, it was March,but then were told May, then last week, August!
    I told him,, I heard the EVO would be out in August.
    I even Called Mitsubishi 800- number a few weeks back, and got a similar response!
    So, anytime from now to August!
    take care/not offense.
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,663
    over here in the greater Tucson area the 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer's are in! I spoke with a salesman at Wildcat Mitsubishi(sort of in east-central Tucson)and he has some automatic tranny Lancer's but no manuals in yet. He has my cell # and I have his office number and we have even set up a time to meet halfway between Willcox and Tucson in a town named Benson, AZ.

    He says the '08 Lancer's with the 5-speed manual tranny's are on their way to Tucson! He must mean soon because we're meeting in Benson Saturday afternoon. I told him about the '01 Sportsman and he sounded very eager to deal.

    They'll find with me they'll have no pushover, though. I want top dollar for the Sportage 4x4 or the deal is off. I am very enamored with the '08 Lancer GTS in 5-speed form with the optional Sun and Sound Package. I mentioned my 3 favorite colors(Electric Blue, Rally Red and Apex Silver...yes, they're arranged by most favorite listed first!!)and that it must be a manual tranny or all deals are off.

    It's gonna be in the low 80's here in southeast Arizona Saturday...when I come home with my Lancer with the sunroof my wife will freak at first but I think she'll eventually warm up to it(pardon the pun :) ). The GTS model I'm getting also has automatic climate control so we'll be cruising in comfort, dudes.

    Yes..I've spent literally hundreds of hours researching this pup so now it's time to deal. I'll keep ya'll updated as we move along.

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • harrycheztharrychezt Posts: 405
    I tell ya, I wonder if they just did not get one in yet, so the guy made up the story about" now-August".
    Sounds like it.
    IMHO, you have a brand new car, arriving now, and they don't have one for a major autoshow,there's no excuse for it.
    Ford had the 08 Focus sedan, and it is not out yet!

    Manual sounds like the way to go. I wish Mitsu did not put the CVT in. This article(and others) seem to prefer the newer small cars 5 speed automatics over the CVT.
    I drove one CVT, the Caliber, and it was tolerable, but that was it.
    Read the article... let us know(if you decide to test the automatic/cvt, and how it did) how you feel about the Mitsubishi.
    I might just sitck with the tC for awhile longer(and hope Scion doesn't mess it up, next design).
    This syas 0-60 with the manual in 9 seconds( cvt is probably 10 seconds?..just a guess).
    I'll take the tC, with automatic, 0-60 in 8.2 seconds, and read 7.7 to 7.8 with manual.
    Better MPG, too( read 29-30 for Lancer, vs 32-34 for our tC,even at 75,000+ miles). I like the Lancer, but if it is 10 seconds to 60, you'll get run over where I live,unless your vehicle weighs 6 tons.
    Wonder how the 3 door Saturn Astra will do( I bet it is smaller than Lancer, though)when it's released in the Fall?
    Anyhow, good luck,whatever you decide to do.
    take care/not offense.
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,663
    the 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer does 0-60 in 7.8 seconds.

    The 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer CVT automatic might just nip the 5-speed manual '08 Lancer in getting up to 60mph the fastest. It would depend on the skill of the driver.

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • harrycheztharrychezt Posts: 405
    Hope U R correct. 9-10 seconds is slow for a "sporty" compact.
    That article/link I posted, they claimed 9 seconds to 60, with manual, and the CVT was "rubber-band" like,they said. That made it sound slow. No times were posted by them.
    Let us know how the test drive goes.
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,663
    I have to be honest with you...if you're looking for a little bomber firecat the 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer is not the car for you. I have read the 0-60 reading as being 0-60 in 7.8 seconds. To me that is more than fast enough.

    Everybody's different, though.

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 6,017
    ...if you're looking for a little bomber firecat the 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer is not the car for you...

    You could always buy an Eclipse GT. 0-60 in the low 6's. Or wait until the Lancer Raliart comes out.

    By the way, I have seen much criticism of the Eclipse for being too heavy (yea, I think it is too) but I was reading about the 2G AWD turbo that everyone liked and it weighed over 3350 pounds. Interesting.

    2009 PT Cruiser, 2008 Eclipse, 1995 Mark VIII, 1988 GMC Van

  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,663
    a lot of it just lies in how you interpret the data. To me, 0-60 in 7.8 seconds is plenty fast for the 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer. Plenty fast.

    I don't count myself in with the NASCAR crowd or anyone else who drives in a hurry and drives like an obnoxious hellion.

    I prefer to not drive others nuts like most people drive.

    So, in short, I love the 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer for what it is, a handsome 4-door sedan that has meticulously splendid body styling and an aggressive bold stance. Also, some nice colors to light the car on fire to hit the road in.

    Saturday afternoon at 1:00PM I have a meeting with a Tucson Mitsubishi salesman midway between Willcox and Tucson. He's gonna drive a GTS '08 Lancer over there to meet me for a test drive. I am waiting with baited breath! Gotta be a GTS 5-speed manual trannied Lancer GTS with the optional Sun and Sound package and bathed in either Electric Blue, Rally Red or Apex Silver. I told him I'd entertain a trade-in of my '01 Kia Sportage 4x4 for either of those Mitsubishi's.

    A ballpark price of $19,000 - $20,000 was punted through the phone line at me but, of course, that is open for haggling and spraggling down the line.

    But I feel that from the start they are serious about selling me a Lancer and not inflating the price. For him to say $19,000 - $20,000 over the phone shows that they aren't adding one of those 'Southwest Preparation Package' second stickers on the car that adds $2,000 of pure fluff and aggravation.

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • harrycheztharrychezt Posts: 405
    with their manual.
    The automatic is around 1/2 a second slower, 8.2-8.3 to 60.This speed is fine. if the CVT could hit 60 in say 8.5 seconds, that would be great.
    Safe enough to merge onto hwy, without the white knuckle drive(worry about getting run over).
    I read 30-32 MPG. That would be tolerable.
    Yeah, defintely let us know what's up with the Lancer.
    I won't be seeing one until late April or early May( don't go that route too often).
    When I do, I'll be trying to talk them into letting me take the CVT- mid-level version -out for a try.
  • carguy58carguy58 Posts: 2,303
    I was wondering if anybody has some spy shots of the 09 Galant because as I like the way the new Outlander looks so I hope the 09 Galant has a clean looking front to it like the new Outlander does and not the front end that the 06 Eclipse has.

    I hope the new 09 Galant has an interior that at least the matches the quality of interior materials of the Saturn Aura.
  • anythngbutgmanythngbutgm Posts: 4,159
    to supply Nuclear Reactors in Texas 000593_FORTUNE5.htm

    Mitsu has a ton of talent and prospects outside of their Automotive franchise. Seems like they are pretty healthy. :shades:
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,663
    the automotive arm of Mitsubishi will work itself back into large profitibility with a strong helping hand from the overall Mitsubishi. They started making cars back in 1917 and there is enormous pride in their ranks. Below are a few highlights from this link which lays out a history of Mitsubishi Motors.

    1917 * Start development of Model-A passenger car

    "Japanese mass-production passenger cars. Mitsubishi Motors became an independent company in 1970 when the automobile division was spun off from Mitsubishi Heavy-Industries, producing cars, trucks and buses for over thirty years. In 2003 the company was reborn again as the new Mitsubishi Motors, a manufacturer specialized in passenger cars."

    So, in that respect, Mitsubishi as an independent name Mitsubishi has only been at it since 1970. Which makes more sense to me. I heard of them even after that here in the U.S.

    1960 * Shin Mitsubishi Heavy-Industries launches the Mitsubishi 500, "the first compact four-wheel passenger car."

    1962 * Shin Mitsubishi Heavy-Industries launches a light four-wheel passenger car, the "Mitsubishi Minica."
    *The "Mitsubishi 500 Super Deluxe" wins a class title in the 9th Macau Grand Prix.

    When they say "four-wheel passenger car, the Mitsubishi Minica," do they happen to mean a four-wheel drive passenger car or a standard four wheel car driven by either the rear wheels or the front wheels?

    1966 *The "Colt Formula 3A" wins the 3rd Japan Grand Prix.
    A light four-wheel cab-over truck, the "Mitsubishi Minicab" is launched.

    1967 *The "Colt IIA" wins the formula car race in the 4th Japan Grand Prix Auto Races.

    1968 *The "Colt FIIB" wins the 5th Japan Grand Prix Speed Cup Race.
    A partnership agreement with Isuzu Motors Ltd. is signed.(Terminated in 1969)
    The "Colt 1100F Sport" wins the 3rd Australian Southern Cross Rally.

    While a lot of us middle-aged people were eating Qwisp cereal and watching The Addams Family, The Avengers, Bonanza, Johhny Quest, The Green Hornet, etc. in the 60's and Watts was about to happen in L.A. and the Detroit riots, Mitsubishi was at it in Japan setting up their empire for future automotive success, all the while producing a product they would feel proud of.

    1969 *The automobile division is reorganized into the automobile operational headquarters.
    A cab-over-type commercial vehicle, the "Delica" is launched.
    The "Colt Galant" (with 4G3 Saturn engine onboard) is launched.

    1970 *The "Colt Galant GTO" (with 4G32 DOHC Saturn engine onboard) is launched.
    The initial basic contract on a joint venture with Chrysler is concluded.
    Mitsubishi Motors Corporation is established

    1971 *Sales of the "Dodge Colt" start in North America.
    The Colt F2000 wins the Japan Grand Prix Auto Race.
    The "Galant Coupe FTO" is launched

    1972 *Football Club, Mitsubishi Heavy Industries. wins the All-Japan Soccer Championship, the Emperor's Cup.
    The "Minica F4" (with 2G2 Vulcan engine onboard) is launched.

    1973 *The "Lancer" is launched.
    The Galant 16L HT GS wins the 21st East African Safari Rally.
    The Lancer 1600GSR wins all titles in the 8th Australian Southern Cross Rally.
    A contract on giving technical assistance on the 4G36 engine to Hyundai Motor is concluded.

    Note the link to Hyundai way back in 1973!

    1976 *The symbol mark "M.M" is attached to new products.
    The "Galant Sigma" (with the 4G5 engine with silent shaft and 4 link rear suspension G32B MCA-JET engine onboard) is launched.
    The "Galant Lambda" is launched.

    1977 *The Nagoya Plant-Okazaki is completed.
    Europe Office (The Netherlands) is established.
    The 1st Mirage Bowl is held.

    1978 *A new sales channel ,"Car Plaza" consisting of 109 companies (186 outlets) starts operations nationwide.
    The "Mirage" (with KM160 transmission with super-shift onboard) is launched.

    1979 *The patent rights on the silent shaft are licensed to Porsche AG.
    The Kyoto Plant-Shiga is completed.
    The total number of cars produced exceeds one million/year. (1.005 million exactly)

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,663
    this exercise in Mitsubishi history.

    1980 *The "Galant Sigma", "Eterna Sigma" (with the strut-type rear wheel independent suspension) is launched.
    The "Forte 4WD" (with the silent chain-type 4WD transfer onboard) is launched.

    1981 *The "Lancer EX1800 Turbo" (with a gasoline turbo engine onboard) is launched.
    Mitsubishi Motor Sales America, Iuc. (MMSA) is established.

    1982 *Use of the MMC mark as the front emblem of newly launched cars starts.
    The "Tredia" and "Cordia" are launched.
    G12B MD engine(Modulated Displacement), ELC-3A/T
    The "Pajero" is launched.
    The "Starion" is launched.
    Mitsubishi Motors Corporation and Mitsubishi Corporation acquire a 10 % stake in Hyundai Motor.
    TAMACHI INC is established in Puerto Rico(Mitsubishi Motors Corporation have a 100 % stake in the company, which latter becomes MMSC)
    The test laboratory (exhaust gas test site) in Ann Arbor, Michigan, the United States is completed.

    1983 *Pajeros take part in the Paris-Dakar rally for the first time and win the unmodified production class title, and finish first and second in the marathon racing. Pajeros also win the best team award for the triple crown.
    The "Chariot" is launched.
    G63B turbo engine with an intercooler
    The "Galant Sigma", "Eterna Sigma" (with ECS/EPS/ECM onboard) is launched.
    Mitsubishi Motors Corporation, Mitsubishi Corporation and Heavy Industries Corporation of Malaysia (HICOM) conclude the agreement to establish a joint national car business. (Later the national car manufacturer becomes PROTON)

    1984 *The design center, test lab and parts depot in Cypress, California are completed.
    Ralliart is established.
    G63B DASH engine (200PS)
    The Starion 4WD wins the class title in the Milles Piste Rally held in France.
    Integration of Industries and Sales is put into practice

    1985 *A contract on joint development of the Debonair with Hyundai Motor of Rep. of Korea is concluded.
    The Pajero enters the 7th Paris-Dakar Rally and wins the overall title.
    Mitsubishi Heavy Industries and Chrysler reach an agreement to terminate and cancel the basic contract on a joint venture of Mitsubishi Motors Corporation.
    An agreement with Chrysler to set up a joint corporation for producing passenger cars in the United States is reached. (The company later becomes DSM.)
    The Beijing office is established.

    1986 *Mitsubishi Motors Corporation acquires a 19 % stake and Mitsubishi Corporation a 6 % stake in CMC Co.,Ltd. in Taiwan.
    Cyclone engine
    The "Debonair V" (with 6G7 V6 engine onboard) is launched.
    Shipment of V6 engines to Chrysler starts.

    1987 *UDMI and SMC in Thailand merge and MSC is established.
    PAMCOR is set up in the Philippines.
    Basic partnership agreement with Daimler Benz including sales of Mercedes-Benz in Japan and production of commercial vehicles in Europe is reached
    Use of the mark of three-diamond as emblems for cars for the domestic market resumes.

    1988 *The production line of the "Eclipse" at DSM starts operations.
    The "Mirage 3-door Hatchback" is launched.
    The "Galant" (with 4G6 DOHC 4-valve engine, VCU-type full-time 4WD, active ECS 4-wheel integrated control system onboard) is launched.
    The Galant is voted '87-'88 Japan Car of the Year.

    1989 The "Minica" is launched.
    3G81 DOHC 5-valve engine
    HCU-type Full-time &#130;SWD
    Mitsubishi Motors Europe (MME) is established.
    The Mitsubishi Auto Gallery opens at the Nagoya Plant-Okazaki, where famous Mistubishi cars are exhibited.
    Galant VR-4 wins the overall titles in WRC1000 Lake Rally and RAC Rally.

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,663
    1990 *The "Minica Toppo" is launched.
    The "Diamante" is launched.
    Operations of the football club are transferred from Mitsubishi Heavy Industries to Mitsubishi Motors Corporation.
    The "GTO" is launched.
    6G72 DOHC twin-turbo engine
    The Diamante and Sigma are voted '90-'91 Japan Car of the Year.

    1991 *The "Pajero" is launched.
    Super-select 4WD, Multi-mode ABS
    4G15 MVV engine
    The Lancer Van electric vehicle
    The "RVR" is launched.
    Inner-rail sliding door
    Mitsubishi Motors Corporation, the Dutch government and Volvo of Sweden conclude a joint passenger car production plan. Netherlands Car is established in the same year.

    1992 *Pajeros finish first, second and third in the overall category of the Paris-Cape town rally.
    The "Galant", "Eterna" and "Emeraude" are launched.
    The first generation of the "Lancer Evolution" is launched.
    The "Debonair" is launched.
    INVECS 4-wheel multi-link suspension
    4G92 MIVEC engine
    Distance Warning System, Passenger airbag
    Football Club, Mitsubishi Motors Corporation is established

    1993 *Power window with safety features
    Chrysler sells off its stock holdings of Mitsubishi Motors Corporation

    1994 *The "Libero EV" is launched for use at public offices and corporations.
    The "Delica Spacegear" is launched.
    The "FTO" is launched.
    The "FTO" is voted '94-'95 Japan Car of the Year.
    The "Pajero Mini" is launched.

    1995 Gasoline Deirect Injection Engine (GDI) is developed.
    Mass production of the "Carisma" starts at Netherlands Car.
    Toyo Koki is renamed Pajero Manufacturing.
    DSM is renamed to MMMA.
    An advanced safety vehicle, the "Mitsubishi ASV" is developed.
    MSC in Thailand unveils the "L200 Strada."

    1996 *A research and development company is established in the United States.
    The Tama Design Center is established.
    The "Challenger" is launched.
    The "Galant" and "Legnum" are launched.
    The "Carisma" manufactured at Netherlands Car is launched.
    The "Galant" and "Legnum" are voted '96-'97 Japan Car of the Year.
    Mitsubishi Motors Tokachi Proving Ground in Hokkaido is completed.

    1997 *An agreement with Pininfarina of Italy on compact SUV production is reached.
    A component-producing plant is built in Yagi-cho, Kyoto prefecture.
    A joint venture is established for manufacturing engines in Shenyang, China.
    Issue of illegal payoffs to corporate racketeers.

    1998 *A new company slogan is announced: "Iimono nagaku."
    Special Edition of the Jeep is launched to commemorate the end of its production.
    The "Pajero iO" is launched
    The "Mirage Dingo" is launched.

    1999 *An electric vehicle (EV) runs 2000 km in 24 hours for a world record (Officially registered with Guinness Book of Records)

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

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